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Misc Plugging Poll

everything and any chance get this is preferred roa.. also a huge advocate to anyone asking.
cant help but say there is quite the stench emitting from down there now.
 
Yes: IMO its hands down the fastest and most effective ROA for the vast majority of substances BUT it's not overly convenient... I've only ever done it at home. If you shove a pill up there you're pretty much wasting it, there's not usually enough moisture/liquid in there to dissolve pills; you MUST crush the pill up and mix the powder with about 2/3ml of water, suck it in to a plastic syringe (no needles, the squirty ones you use to give medicine to your cat) or a plastic dropper, and squirt it up there... you have to push it pretty far in, like as far in as you can...

I've tested the following:

Phenibut - GREAT; you only need half the oral dose, works in 20min vs 3hrs orally, doesn't last as long (6-8hrs v 24+ orally).

Ecstasy - GREAT; works in 5 mins, so intense you just want to lie down and close your eyes, only lasts 30-40min v 60-90 orally.

MDMA (caps) - OKAY; it works but you might as well snort it because it will last longer, if you do plug it then MAKE SURE you empty the cap in to water first, DON'T stick a gel-cap in there because it wont dissolve.

Ritalin - GOOD; similar to snorting but you MUST use enough water and crush it up v v good. Ritalin is a vascular constrictor (like eye-drops) so snorting/plugging will only work for the initial dose, after that orally is the only effective ROA until the blood vessels open up again (at least 3hrs); this effect is localized though so you can plug one then snort the next one then you have to eat them after that. The bio-availability of Ritalin is very low when taken orally but the absorption is more than doubled when administered rectally or insufflated so its both stronger and you save pills doing it like that - but only the one dose! otherwise you're wasting it.

Benzos (Xanax etc) - CRAP [pun intended]; these pretty much only work when you eat them...

Tips:
- Go to the toilet beforehand... most people would figure that on their own but you never know. Its best to go an hour or so earlier and keep an empty stomach.
- its easiest (but not necessary) to lie on your back (happy baby position) and use lube (or at least spit on it) and hold that position for a min or so afterward to make sure it doesn't leak out.
- No it doesn't hurt and no you won't shit everywhere, once you get over yourself and try it out you'll see its WAYYYY more effective than the regular ROA's.
 
parttimepharmacist said:
Yes: IMO its hands down the fastest and most effective ROA for the vast majority of substances BUT it's not overly convenient... I've only ever done it at home. If you shove a pill up there you're pretty much wasting it, there's not usually enough moisture/liquid in there to dissolve pills; you MUST crush the pill up and mix the powder with about 2/3ml of water, suck it in to a plastic syringe (no needles, the squirty ones you use to give medicine to your cat) or a plastic dropper, and squirt it up there... you have to push it pretty far in, like as far in as you can...

I've tested the following:

Phenibut - GREAT; you only need half the oral dose, works in 20min vs 3hrs orally, doesn't last as long (6-8hrs v 24+ orally).

Ecstasy - GREAT; works in 5 mins, so intense you just want to lie down and close your eyes, only lasts 30-40min v 60-90 orally.

MDMA (caps) - OKAY; it works but you might as well snort it because it will last longer, if you do plug it then MAKE SURE you empty the cap in to water first, DON'T stick a gel-cap in there because it wont dissolve.

Ritalin - GOOD; similar to snorting but you MUST use enough water and crush it up v v good. Ritalin is a vascular constrictor (like eye-drops) so snorting/plugging will only work for the initial dose, after that orally is the only effective ROA until the blood vessels open up again (at least 3hrs); this effect is localized though so you can plug one then snort the next one then you have to eat them after that. The bio-availability of Ritalin is very low when taken orally but the absorption is more than doubled when administered rectally or insufflated so its both stronger and you save pills doing it like that - but only the one dose! otherwise you're wasting it.

Benzos (Xanax etc) - CRAP [pun intended]; these pretty much only work when you eat them...

Tips:
- Go to the toilet beforehand... most people would figure that on their own but you never know. Its best to go an hour or so earlier and keep an empty stomach.
- its easiest (but not necessary) to lie on your back (happy baby position) and use lube (or at least spit on it) and hold that position for a min or so afterward to make sure it doesn't leak out.
- No it doesn't hurt and no you won't shit everywhere, once you get over yourself and try it out you'll see its WAYYYY more effective than the regular ROA's.
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Just disagree on the oral duration of ecstacy/MDMA Which is far longer 3-5 Hours, check this erowid page if you want... https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects.shtml
 
The 'ecstasy' pills we get here in NZ are very different to MDMA caps, they're usually cut with amphetamines, BZP and/or mephedrome (aka bath salts), and the speedy ingredients last three+ hours but can make the point at which the MDMA type effects stop working more noticeable, for me this is usually at around 90mins, then it switches to just speedy mode for another hour or so...

Every time I've done MDMA caps it's been with multiple doses I.e railing up a 3rd of the cap then feeling like more after about 40-60 mins. I haven't had caps in FOREVER and if I had them again (now that I better understand the MOA) I would just take the whole thing in one dose, re-dosing part-doses is much less effective, this might be why I have found it much shorter acting :)
 
parttimepharmacist said:
The 'ecstasy' pills we get here in NZ are very different to MDMA caps, they're usually cut with amphetamines, BZP and/or mephedrome (aka bath salts), and the speedy ingredients last three+ hours but can make the point at which the MDMA type effects stop working more noticeable, for me this is usually at around 90mins, then it switches to just speedy mode for another hour or so...

Every time I've done MDMA caps it's been with multiple doses I.e railing up a 3rd of the cap then feeling like more after about 40-60 mins. I haven't had caps in FOREVER and if I had them again (now that I better understand the MOA) I would just take the whole thing in one dose, re-dosing part-doses is much less effective, this might be why I have found it much shorter acting :)
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Yeah, i feel ya, "ecstacy" pills here are shite, similar unwanted cuttin agents, low dose if any MDMA or MDA... But when i was at uni in the UK i very often got ectsacy pills very strongly dosed in MDMA or MDA, and little if any undesireable cutting agents...

Intranasal MDMA is far shorter acting and IMO lower BA than using via oral ROA... maybe that's why the effects were shorter lasting in your case...
 
phatass said:
As I've only used water when plugging, and the MXE wouldn't dissolve properly in H2O, so i didn't try plugging it...

s/l is my chosen ROA for MXE, given i don't "play" with needles anymore, so even IM is out of the question for me...
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Try using Propylene Glycol. It is used in place of water when water won't do.

Make sure it's at least food grade if not pharmaceutical grade. You can easily buy it at most pharmacies. You'll have to ask the pharmacist though. It's OTC stuff, but for some reason they don't keep it on the shelves. They'll order a bottle for you, no problem.

If they ask (which they shouldn't, it's not their business) just tell them you're making your own E-cig fluid. Propylene Glycol is the base of all that stuff. Good way to avoid having attention placed on you.
 
Trippykitty said:
Try using Propylene Glycol. It is used in place of water when water won't do.

Make sure it's at least food grade if not pharmaceutical grade. You can easily buy it at most pharmacies. You'll have to ask the pharmacist though. It's OTC stuff, but for some reason they don't keep it on the shelves. They'll order a bottle for you, no problem.

If they ask (which they shouldn't, it's not their business) just tell them you're making your own E-cig fluid. Propylene Glycol is the base of all that stuff. Good way to avoid having attention placed on you.
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Thanks for the tip Trippykitty, i used prop. glycol for etizolam and phenazpam dilution for dosing a few years ago... However i won't be gettting more MXE for a while for various reasons, i'll share a couple:

i absolutely LOVE the stuff, especially high doses, but sometimes become "out of control" when i'm "gone" and break either myself and/or stuff around the appartement + my gf doesn't find it at all pleasant when i'm on high dose MXE since i can longer communicate, and gave her a "good scare" when i had a slight OD after a 4g binge of mxe in as many days, then had to rest at home in stead of going to work for a week, which isn't all bad ;), but i just started working, so yeah i had a valid official paper from the doctor, but i only got paid 2 days of the 5 and more importantly missed out on some important things....

but i was in such a bad physical state, all my muscles hurt, i was in pain all over and felt so weak i couldn't walk or move, especially the first 3 days, then it gradually, slowly subsided...:| reslults of my bloodtests showed my C.P.K's were at 721 i think, which indicates i ingested to high a dose, and in too short a time of a "toxic" product, i am 99% sure my mxe is and has allways been very high purity, so people should e aware, MXE is toxic and can have irreversible effects on vital aorgans (ie. the kidneys...)

Learnt my lesson with MXE for the 2nd time "the hard way", both times i had got 5g's at once...:\

So for everyone, especially those who dose high and regularly with MXE... do be carefull and stay safe! :)
 
tunesey said:
Dont do it with Phenibut just a friendly warning
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You can do it with Phenibut F.A.A.
No burn (which is what i think you're getting at) that goes along with the HCL

The F.A.A. version can also be painlessly snorted and at much lower dosage needed than HCL oral.
My .02

-HOOD
 
The only thing i have ever plugged was suboxone strips and with much success. id like to try some other things with this ROA. maybe herion (Im a sniffer) Does anyone know how plugging H is compared to IV? (Which by the way i promised to myself that i would never do that)
 
Opiates<3 said:
The only thing i have ever plugged was suboxone strips and with much success. id like to try some other things with this ROA. maybe herion (Im a sniffer) Does anyone know how plugging H is compared to IV? (Which by the way i promised to myself that i would never do that)
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Hey. I've never IV'ed anything aside from what I've gotten at the hospital, but that was hardly recreational.

I have however experimented with plugging quite a bit, and I can say that with opiates or opioids, you get much more f a rush than taking it orally. Plus you also save lots of product as more of the drug gets absorbed into your bloodstream, and faster.

However, I prefer snorting H over plugging it. I just like that particular 'burn' of it.
 
Trippykitty said:
Hey. I've never IV'ed anything aside from what I've gotten at the hospital, but that was hardly recreational.

I have however experimented with plugging quite a bit, and I can say that with opiates or opioids, you get much more f a rush than taking it orally. Plus you also save lots of product as more of the drug gets absorbed into your bloodstream, and faster.

However, I prefer snorting H over plugging it. I just like that particular 'burn' of it.
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Plugging is my favorite method of all time. My friends are big babies when it comes to putting an object up their butt... it's their loss. I've never felt better from an opiate by plugging morphine.
 
Drew. said:
Plugging is my favorite method of all time. My friends are big babies when it comes to putting an object up their butt... it's their loss. I've never felt better from an opiate by plugging morphine.
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Damn straight man! Glad to hear I'm not the only one who can get around that silly taboo. It definitely works so much better, unless you count IV'ing. But I don't wanna start banging opiates.

I figure anyone who doesn't plug it is wasting half their product, I'm pretty sure that you absorb 30% more of the drug than you do by eating it.
 
Opiates<3 said:
The only thing i have ever plugged was suboxone strips and with much success. id like to try some other things with this ROA. maybe herion (Im a sniffer) Does anyone know how plugging H is compared to IV? (Which by the way i promised to myself that i would never do that)
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I've only plugged h three times, have never iv'd... And for me there was a definite rush feeling at the beginning followed by an awake-opi buzz unless you overused. I never caught a nod from plugging it and I don't plan on getting it again anyways.

And yes, Mr. Kitty. Glad to see someone who shares the same sort of story in life and isn't / hasn't banged an opiate. Whether or not plugging is just as bad? I do not know.
I do know for sure that it nearly potentiates anything I've put to use up there, in lower doses than Oral obviously. (100mg plugged as opposed to 180mg-200 oral)
 
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