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Heroin vein damage question

mrsnowygrainius

mrsnowygrainius

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when i try to hit my large bicep veins they no longer register for blood. also they no longer bulge out of my arms like most of the time i can't see them at all its like they receded away. lately when i try to hit these veins i miss and i never used to miss, could this be a sign of damage? I will admit that i do stupid things when it comes to injecting like i reuse my needles many many times.
 
this is correct! you destroy your veins until they are completely gone. shooting without the desinfection and reusing needles all the time is the way to make your veins kaputt.
 
Jesus I use a new one almost every time and my veins are still fucked.... idk how sone people do it like my friends week reuse a needle 50 times
 
Rotate injection sites constantly. I know how tempting it is to go to the spots you know you can register but if you're a long term user its crucial to have a bunch of spots. If the brachial veins on both arms need to heal, you might have to move to the back of your hands and the top of your wrists. These veins roll around a lot more and are smaller however,

Keep it up with the dull rigs, and youll totally burn out all your good veins and have to hit in your feet or even your neck. I know some people that shoot into their dick, forehead, or femoral vein. You don't wanna miss a shot in those areas...
 
AgonyAndEcstasy781 said:
Rotate injection sites constantly. I know how tempting it is to go to the spots you know you can register but if you're a long term user its crucial to have a bunch of spots. If the brachial veins on both arms need to heal, you might have to move to the back of your hands and the top of your wrists. These veins roll around a lot more and are smaller however,

Keep it up with the dull rigs, and youll totally burn out all your good veins and have to hit in your feet or even your neck. I know some people that shoot into their dick, forehead, or femoral vein. You don't wanna miss a shot in those areas...
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same. It's worth it to spend the 12 bucks and have 100 rigs shipped to your door. I'm unsure why most junkies dont do this if they know theyll need them..
 
yea but for some people all u have is 3-4 injection sites, i try and rotate as much as possible but there just arent any other veins anywhere, it kind of sucks. sometimes i can hit my feet, but most the time i am restricted to the crook of my left arm and right below the crook on my right arm. havent had any in my hands in 6 months
 
and where do u get 100 for $12???? i have never found (a good) brand for under $13, and then its always like $6 shippping
 
RedHandedDenial said:
yea but for some people all u have is 3-4 injection sites, i try and rotate as much as possible but there just arent any other veins anywhere, it kind of sucks. sometimes i can hit my feet, but most the time i am restricted to the crook of my left arm and right below the crook on my right arm. havent had any in my hands in 6 months
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Crook of arm > bicep > forearm > hands > wrists > feet > legs > neck > forehead > dick > femoral

The progression. Theres always muscling your shots but that leads to consrant abscess and infection issues.
 
don't know whereabouts you live, but for those in bigger towns/cities, there are needle exchanges too? as far as rotating sites goes, i am also one of those ppl with less than stellar veins...i fucked up the big veins in the crooks of my arms VERY quickly learning to IV. so for the first two yrs afterward, i could ony hit the veins on the tops of my hands/my fingers/sometimes my wrists. as far as HR goes it was pretty risky. but there are vein maps online that can help you locate and use other sites too...for example i would NOT use my wrists again (veins, arteries and nerves are in waaay too close proximity), but in a pinch I have used my thighs, calves, and forearm veins (LOTS) and those have worked just fine.

as others have said though, the key is rotating your sites....you body will thank you later. also, if you can "save" one or two areas into which you just DO NOT shoot (i.e. your neck, your big wrist vein, etc), that will give you some peace of mind in the event you ever have a medical emergency, and they require a decent spot for an IV.
 
actually i do femoral and the hip veins sometimes too, before hands, feet, wrists, ankles, or calves anyday. i have never done the neck, i cant see any good ones. and forehead?? wtf???
 
yea i hit a vein in my wrist one time, it was a vein i had hit many times before but the blood was really bright red this particular time and for some reason white spots started to appear as soon as i started plunging (turns out i think it was just from missing a little, cuz ive had those same spots numerous times since then) but it scared the shit out of me and i thought it was an artery that was close to the vein. i pulled the rig out so fucking fast like u couldnt believe. turns out it wasnt an artery because, of course, if it was there would have been more of a reaction since i injected about 20 units
 
RedHandedDenial said:
and where do u get 100 for $12???? i have never found (a good) brand for under $13, and then its always like $6 shippping
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I might have been exaggeratting. It's like 15 bucks for 100 i think. i use gpzservices when i shop online. Otherwise i also go to walmart or cvs, but have spent about 18 - 20 bucks (including tax). I just don't understand the logic in making getting rigs for HR a HUGE headache over 10 dollars.
 
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RedHandedDenial said:
actually i do femoral and the hip veins sometimes too, before hands, feet, wrists, ankles, or calves anyday. i have never done the neck, i cant see any good ones. and forehead?? wtf???
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Femoral vein is very close to the femoral artery in most people. Nicking the femoral artery could be potentially fatal, and theres a nerve there too I think.

For the neck, stand in front of a mirror, hyperventilate a bit, then turn your head to one side. Puff out your neck and increase blood pressure by flexing your internal muscles (the same muscles used to control your sphincter). If you aren't overweight you should see a big, thick vein pop out between near where your collarbone meets your neck, heading uo the outside of your neck. Easier to have someone else hit for you. Dont miss. Once missed a shot of fentanyl dope here and i looked like frankenstein on heroin for a few hours.

What you've never done a forehead shot? You just need a nice big syringe like the one from pulp fiction, go straight through the forehead, and push straight into the brain. Its some heavy shit =D
 
oh, well, i had access to hospital supplies, needlechange programs, but fucked up all veins and with my Dormicum addiction hitting any muscle made me look like a smurf, black and blue. Have hit an artery in my wrist, while in the hospital for pneumonia.
ai have a medical degree, but hitting an artery there does NOT take away any of the sickness, it leaves you with a majorly swollen thumb, and me wondering what i was taught in school....
On the other hand, i withdrew cold turkey...and it was a ride never too forget.I never will let a needle touch my body. 15 years now. Mind you, foot veins????AAARGH, no. And luckily saved my dick for other purposes.=D
 
Ive never undertstood how ppl fuck their veins up... I reuse needles, only hit in one arm, in one of two spots and never had a problem... except for hep c, but thats a different story
 
Yeah hep c is a mothetfucker, shoot up around other junkies long enough and good chance you can catch it by inadvertently sharing a cooker or rinsing someone elses cotton or getting your rigs mixed up. When you're sick and need to get opiates into yourself asap, safe injection technique often goes out the window, as fucked up as that sounds.

Luckily I dodged that bullet.
 
shit i went to see a specalist she said you could give it to yourself by reusing rigs... but guess so many ppl have it around here they doing some piolt program at WVU thats suspose to cure it... the doc was real cool tho didnt talk down to me or anything, just said when ever your ready to stop come back and you can begin treatment
 
pill billy i think it depends A LOT on HOW OFTEN you shoot up. people that are doing it 2-3 times a day are going ot wear their veins out faster than the average once a week or couple days drug user
 
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