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anotherpenny

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I'm just learning about this stuff. I was old and settled down when MDMA came out so I've never had it. But I find the concept of a Empathogen-entactogen chemical to be totally amazing. The concept of "often produce feelings of empathy, love, and emotional closeness to others" is great. I read they can be speedy and trippy though. Are there any out there that are a bit speedy/euphoric with lots of love and less of the trippy? I can handle the trip, but she probably can't. RC's that won't get me busted would be ideal.
 
Mdma is a 'trip' and a 'psychedelic experience' to the full in my opinion, but if you don't dose too high it's not really that 'trippy', or at least you will feel too good to care. I tend to only realise how intense or trippy the experience was after it's over, while you're high on it everything just comes naturally

there are some analogues like MDA which is known to be more trippy, and Methylone which is less trippy but also less lovey and probably not what you're looking for. There's absolutely tonnes of analogues, but you might find MDMA the only easy one to get depending on your connections and it's probably the best place to start. Make sure you test your stuff
 
MDMA is great. Life changing. I hallucinate sometimes but it's not scary. I usually take it and 20 mins later I'm like: 'shit what have I done!!!' Lol I'm always glad I did it though.

Legal highs scare me, I'll let others be guinea pigs.
 
anotherpenny said:
I'm just learning about this stuff. I was old and settled down when MDMA came out so I've never had it. But I find the concept of a Empathogen-entactogen chemical to be totally amazing. The concept of "often produce feelings of empathy, love, and emotional closeness to others" is great. I read they can be speedy and trippy though. Are there any out there that are a bit speedy/euphoric with lots of love and less of the trippy? I can handle the trip, but she probably can't. RC's that won't get me busted would be ideal.
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They are just releasing endorphin .. dopamine etc.
 
imho mdma isn't too trippy and easy to handle without having experience with/an inclination for psychedelics. it has a certain visual component (mainly blurring, tracers and intensified colours), but doesn't lead to the thought processes typical for psychedelics. if you want to keep psychedelia at a minimum, use the lowest effective dose and don't redose.
that said, i have seen the insides of a dimly lit mobile toilet transform into a jungle landscape, but the dose wasn't exactly low and i had done lots of dmt at that time which surely had an influence. typically such intense visuals only occur with mda.

at higher doses of mdma you might mistake a person for someone else for a short amount of time or see glasses on all people (which is not at all typical for psychedelics), but you'll normally be too happy to get freaked out by that.


lots of the rcs get mixed reports with some people finding them more psychedelic and some less so. in general the apbs are more like mda in that respect, while methylone is more straight. but methylone is a "mdma light" of sorts with many essential parts (like the extra-intense body high, the love/empathy and the pleasant disorientation) missing.


hey are just releasing endorphin .. dopamine etc.
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endorphins indirectly at most. serotonin, noradrenalin and dopamine are the main neurotransmitters released. with serotonin and probably more importanly oxytocin (released indirectly through activation of serotonin receptors) being responsible for the social effects.
 
In my opinion there is 3 types of mdma regardless of colour , 1- I want to be one with the music & dance all night 2- i want to sot down gouging out near the biggest speaker, drowsy as anything, telling my girl how much I love her or 3- I'll buzz my nut off ridiculously for an hour or two, then hallucinate all night. Recent been getting the gougey one, would be interesting to know what everyone else's mandy is like outside the uk!
 
There is only one type of MDMA, and that is MDMA. Any difference in effects are simply a result of set and setting differences, differing purity with a new batch that you're not used to, or getting something other than MDMA or something cut with your MDMA.
 
terarc said:
There is only one type of MDMA, and that is MDMA. Any difference in effects are simply a result of set and setting differences, differing purity with a new batch that you're not used to, or getting something other than MDMA or something cut with your MDMA.
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exactly. i've had rolls that would fall in all 3 of nocomment's categories from the same gram of mdma. it's simply a question of set, setting, tolerance and dose (if you have clean stuff that is).
 
MDMA is great...until you take too much and it quits working. Taking long breaks between rolls doesn't prevent this from occurring. It just postpones it.
 
Black said:
imho mdma isn't too trippy and easy to handle without having experience with/an inclination for psychedelics. it has a certain visual component (mainly blurring, tracers and intensified colours), but doesn't lead to the thought processes typical for psychedelics. if you want to keep psychedelia at a minimum, use the lowest effective dose and don't redose.
that said, i have seen the insides of a dimly lit mobile toilet transform into a jungle landscape, but the dose wasn't exactly low and i had done lots of dmt at that time which surely had an influence. typically such intense visuals only occur with mda.

at higher doses of mdma you might mistake a person for someone else for a short amount of time or see glasses on all people (which is not at all typical for psychedelics), but you'll normally be too happy to get freaked out by that.


lots of the rcs get mixed reports with some people finding them more psychedelic and some less so. in general the apbs are more like mda in that respect, while methylone is more straight. but methylone is a "mdma light" of sorts with many essential parts (like the extra-intense body high, the love/empathy and the pleasant disorientation) missing.

endorphins indirectly at most. serotonin, noradrenalin and dopamine are the main neurotransmitters released. with serotonin and probably more importanly oxytocin (released indirectly through activation of serotonin receptors) being responsible for the social effects.
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And happiness, rewarding brain activity..
 
MDMA isnt really trippy at all in my opinion, definitley not really speedy either.. Just love, and happyness, pure bliss :) i think mdma is what your looking for, i wouldnt mess around with any RC's if i were you
 
Cdilly93 said:
MDMA isnt really trippy at all in my opinion, definitley not really speedy either.. Just love, and happyness, pure bliss :) i think mdma is what your looking for, i wouldnt mess around with any RC's if i were you
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It would definitely be less harmful.
 
Thanks for the info. If I could find MDMA I'd take your advice. Maybe one day things will align, but currently they aren't. I'll look into 6-APB.
 
I'd seriously look into doing MDMA before any RCs, plus 6-APB is known to be tripper which is what you didn't want, and is illegal basically everywhere anyway.

I dunno if I'm allowed to say this, but if your sources are really that scarce, look into dark net markets. It takes some learning but if you do it right it's the safest way to get any drugs. Provided you test them too.
 
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