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Help with MDMA
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Yes, everyone IS different, & I am of the opinion that newbies should always err on the side of caution when trying a new drug, not just neck the largest possible dose in the hope that this might bring an incredibly awsome experience when it's more likely to send them to A&E or worse. Anyone taking a new drug for the first time should seek the lowest possible dose for an effect, & work up carefully from there.
Large doses of MDMA are also more likely to result in a panic attack or a fainting spell, neither of which are likely to increase the enjoyment of the experience. Panic is more likely to lead to a more serious health problem, & panic is more likely in a newbie than in an experienced user such as yourself, or me. Even 100% pure MDMA is dangerous in higher doses! People die from pure, known doses of MDMA all the time. Once in awhile, someone dies from a half pill or a considerably lower dose than 200mg.
In fact, I consider it particularly bad HR ettiquete altogether, to reply to a newbie post boasting about 400mg doses!
As her mum is very pro-legalisation, I'm sure you've heard about the 15yr old girl who necked 500mg, & died. - http://www.theguardian.com/society/...tha-fernback-died-ecstasy-legalisation-debate
edit - I see you're well aware of this poor girls fate.
Bingo! 200mg is a far too high a first dose...
First time I took MDMA I halved a Red & Black capsule (also known as Dennis the Menace) by emptying out the powder & stirring it into OJ which was drunk on an empty stomach. I suspect, knowing what I know now after nearly 25 years experience, that the dose was between 50mg & 100mg, probably 75mg, half of a 150mg cap. Despite my experience, I'm guessing the dosage. Point being, I came up in 12 minutes! I timed it.
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ponch
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I always divide a gram into 8 doses, 125mg seems to be the perfect dose for me.
Yeah back in "the day", before I had scales, me and the missus used to split a gram that way, take 3 doses each to the club with us, and save one for when we got home.
Chatative
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Welcome to BL...
I'm not going to merge this thread to our MDMA 'megathread' (they keep things tidy rather than having lots of little threads) because it'll get all muddled up with the other posts, but I'd direct you there for talking about it in future:
Regional Pill / MDMA Discussion - my spectacular metabolism at work
If you have questions about other drugs, or want to see what threads we have, check the EADD Index.... the link is in my signature!
5StarSquatHotel
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If not that experienced with mdma then I suggest sticking to the following tried and tested formula, 100mg followed by 50mg 1-2 hours later if required. When I was bang on it I found 150mg followed by 100mg later, that's the sweet spot. You only get one initial come up so its best to start with the biggest dose. No point redosing tiny bits all night as its a waste and if you were to hammer it and go cracy and do 500mg-1000mg in a night then you will be such a mess that you will not enjoy it. A lass I used to know would get a G and open the wrap and lick the whole thing down in one, hardcore and/or stupid.
SilentRoller
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For arguments sake, I don't think 400mg at once would kill you though. I once double dropped two yellow bitcoin pills (220mg+) at once, and I'm still here.....
For those that are wondering, it was an accident, and yes I was fucked.
For those that are wondering, it was an accident, and yes I was fucked.
ScotchMist
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It may not of killed you but far less has killed others! That's the point.. and no, I wasnt wondering 
BecomingJulie
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Consider Set and Setting -- how you feel, and what is happening around you. Don't take MDMA -- or any drug, for that matter, especially one you have never taken before -- if you are feeling unwell, or if you are in a situation which might turn scary.
If you have never taken MDMA before, then you don't know for sure that you aren't allergic to it. So, take a really tiny dose to begin with -- say just 10 mg., and wait half an hour. That amount will be enough to trigger an allergic reaction if you're going to have one, but -- unless you are supremely unlucky -- not enough for it to be really bad, and perhaps more importantly not enough to mess up your head when you might be needing it most. If you feel any ill effects whatsoever from the initial 10 mg., call an ambulance and show the remains to the paramedics.
If you experienced no adverse effects from the initial small dose, then take a further 40 mg. If you are not getting high after 1 hour, take another 50 or 100 mg. You may sweat a lot and if this happens, you will be losing salt as well as fluids. Oral rehydration mixture such as Dioralyte is preferrable to plain water or sugary drinks. It should go without saying, but avoid alcohol.
If you're a guy,
Nobody except a regular heavy user should need the whole 400 mg. to get high. That much should do you at least two good nights' entertainment.
If you have never taken MDMA before, then you don't know for sure that you aren't allergic to it. So, take a really tiny dose to begin with -- say just 10 mg., and wait half an hour. That amount will be enough to trigger an allergic reaction if you're going to have one, but -- unless you are supremely unlucky -- not enough for it to be really bad, and perhaps more importantly not enough to mess up your head when you might be needing it most. If you feel any ill effects whatsoever from the initial 10 mg., call an ambulance and show the remains to the paramedics.
If you experienced no adverse effects from the initial small dose, then take a further 40 mg. If you are not getting high after 1 hour, take another 50 or 100 mg. You may sweat a lot and if this happens, you will be losing salt as well as fluids. Oral rehydration mixture such as Dioralyte is preferrable to plain water or sugary drinks. It should go without saying, but avoid alcohol.
If you're a guy,
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Sprout
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Lab grade MDMA dosage for me is around 120-150mg if I'm after the overwhelming empathy than MDMA is famous for. Above that and it starts heading into psychedelic territory.
kaosisallwesee
Bluelighter
Thats utter shite, almost everyone i know would get a good dose from 100-150mg ,, 180mg would proper fuck me up, and most of the people i know. You may need that much but advising a new user to take more than the standard dose!! not HR at all!
Take 100mg and see how you feel, I doubt you'll be disappointed.
BecomingJulie, good point! OP do what they said. And whatever you do, don't take 200mg,180mg or even what I suggested until you know your not overly-sensitive/allergic. Safety first.
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kaosisallwesee
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I dont know,,, I'm pretty sure I'v been close to over heating and dying? maybe? and this was only from 100mg followed by 180mg fairly soon after. A mistake, took my bomb and started coming up pretty hard. My GF gets home so I make her a bomb In my messy state I ate hers without thinking about it. I felt fucked, really dizzy, could walk straight, so fucking hot. Went to be sick, the missus followed me, started puking and went bright red, my skin was really hot to the touch. passed out and woke up a second later as a towel soaked in cold water was put on me. Most terrifying moment of my life. Sat in a cold shower for an hour and then felt fine. But I honestly dont think I would have made it if it weren't for my girlfriend being in there with me and cooling me down. 280mg isn't loads and it made me feel/look like I was going to die, scared the fuck outta me and my missus. But I didn't die,, and I'll never know what could have happened.
FWIW in 88 when pills first came my way they were white calis 200mg - we would do a half and as we came up drop the other 1/2. I did take a whole one many times but only after knowing what to expect, it can be pretty frightning but i relate it to racing towards a brick wall with al the anxiety that would bring then you smash through it and your in E land happy as larry.
Worst experience double droped those huge snowballs in 92 aaaahhhhh
Worst experience double droped those huge snowballs in 92 aaaahhhhh
My mates at the time had been having it weekly for a year. The head honcho was easily up to half dozen or more pills per night by then. As MDMA/Ecastacy was a new drug, as far as I was concerned, I tended to halve pills, & only partied once a month or so. The rest of 'em were at it weekly. Anyway, when the snowballs appeared this lot were delighted, they could get wasted on one, single pill again. I made the mistake of halving one & had the worst night of my lfe, anxious, paranoid, overheated & generally very uncomfortable physically.
I'm sure you're well aware that it turns out snowballs were actually MDA, not MDMA, & a huge dose at that. Someone fucked up in Poland or someplace in eastern Europe. I wonder if 1992 was a bumper year for rave casualites?
