i prefer codeine myself... 600mg codeine with 100mg promethazine, otc, cheap, used to get me a nice feeling, i think i had a descent convertion metabolism ratio of codeine iinto morphine... i allways found codeine warmer, more like (morphine than tram (obviously), and quite noddy, and not too itchy granted the promethazine is dropped prior.
Tramadol i find ok, for a weak opiate, more "functional" than, codeine, def less, not really noddy at all, tramadol feels like a slightly stimulanting effect, with a little bit of opiate euphoria, but not the morphine type...
Different srokes i guess, i had plenty of experience with tramadol a little experience with O-Desmethyltramadol in pure powder form (the actif molecule that gives you the opiate effect of tramadol, without the SNRI effect, and without the seizure risk... i think... could be mistaken, don't quote me), but LOADS with codeine (because it's otc in pure form, and cheap, as is promethazine...), so i started opiates with the codeine / promethazine, before moving on to harder opiates.
Duration of codeine promethazine is descent, with a morphine like high, euphoria... over here, either docs think codeine, and or dihydrocodeine has a higher abuse potential prob due to more recreational effects, and will more likely Rx tramadol, for pain, tough to get the stronger opiates here legitimately Rx for pain, most of the corrupt and shady docs, who did scripts for money got caught up and lost their doc's liscence, as there was a big crackdown on "corrupt" docs a while ago (maybe 4-5+ years)
If you take tram, if it's instant release (probably the 50mg pills) space out each dose of 50mg by 20 minutes or so, to get the most O-desmethyltramadol.... if you got extended release pills,not need or point to space out doses. Also as stated above, no more than 400mg tramadol, seizure risk is real, some have higher, others lower seizure thresholds, best not play with fire, so yeah stay under 400mg.
OP aka MrPURPbutterfly: what is the "other opiate" apart from tramadol you can obtain???