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My replacement laptop, which I've had for 2.5 months has just fucked up somehow. It's working but the screen is just black at login.
Fucks sake.
Fucks sake.
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ponch
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Garages might have charged 24 quid an hour in 1994 raas, thats probably their rate for 2 hours labour. Some german manufacturer main dealers charge over 100 an hour i think.
felix
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Well, thanks for clarifying some of it.
But the fact that you are now talking about investing money in axle stands and a proper jack and a Haynes manual surely speak to the reality that these issues are in fact a bigger job than you were making them out to be? The mechanics have already invested in kit that's better than any stuff you're gonna buy, they've done at least a 4 year apprenticeship in their trade, and they need to make a living somehow. Their wages have to come out of the profit on any work they do, so you shouldn't be dismissive of their skills & time.
Whether or not you think the work is a big job or not, if you arse it up you might end up losing control of your car and killing yourself, your passengers, and other road users/bystanders. I stand by everything I said.
Time will tell whether your own efforts will allow your car to pass its MOT. Let us know.
felix
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My last car (a Mazda RX-8 ) was at least £48 an hour for labour, if I remember correctly. A year ago.
felix
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Ehhhh.... what? :D
I know Mazdas aren't German, if that's what you're getting at.
I know Mazdas aren't German, if that's what you're getting at.
While location may be an affecting factor, in my experience local garages typically charge about £25 an hour labour. It is the specialists that charge double/triple + that rate
Well, thanks for clarifying some of it.
But the fact that you are now talking about investing money in axle stands and a proper jack and a Haynes manual surely speak to the reality that these issues are in fact a bigger job than you were making them out to be?
You need to get underneath the car, hence the stands. If you can get under the car it's not a difficult job.
Felix said:
However you dress it up, at the end of the day it is just - unscrewing 2 bolts. I think someone can make a living being paid 25-50 for undoing 2 bolts, then putting them back again. Paying 115 however is just a pisstake and the cause of my RAGE.
If I use a garage again, I will ring round for quotes. It's the only way.
Felix said:Whether or not you think the work is a big job or not, if you arse it up you might end up losing control of your car and killing yourself, your passengers, and other road users/bystanders. I stand by everything I said.
The safety is the job of the MOT tester, not me. The work was underdone to get the car through it's MOT
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Clever!!
felix
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Raas: read this old one:
Your "rip-off" mechanics told you what exactly was wrong with your car, and it sounds like they told you how to fix it too. If you don't appreciate the value of that, at least, then I dunno what to tell you.
Good luck underneath your car, where I'm sure you'll discover that those simple bolts might not be so simple to undo as you assume. :D
If it all goes right, then fair play to you. But if they don't - and you snap a bolt or ruin a thread - then you're gonna have an immobile car up on jacks, and will have to elicit the sympathy and assistance of one of those pesky mechanics. LOL. :D
Your "rip-off" mechanics told you what exactly was wrong with your car, and it sounds like they told you how to fix it too. If you don't appreciate the value of that, at least, then I dunno what to tell you.
Good luck underneath your car, where I'm sure you'll discover that those simple bolts might not be so simple to undo as you assume. :D
If it all goes right, then fair play to you. But if they don't - and you snap a bolt or ruin a thread - then you're gonna have an immobile car up on jacks, and will have to elicit the sympathy and assistance of one of those pesky mechanics. LOL. :D
Nice as the story is, it's not applicable here at all. The mechanics get paid by the HOUR not by what they know. The know-how, tools, overheads etc is why you pay them £25 an hour, not the minimum wage.
Felix said:
You still don't get the story straight.
I went to an MOT TESTING ONLY garage, the guy told me which parts to get and said it's so straightforward you may as well do it yourself, then bring it back to get retested. The MOT testing guy will not undertake any work, besides MOTing himself.
SO, being short on time and needing the car asap... took it to a completely different garage, to get replace the 2 anti roll bars. Now knowing it's an easy straightforward job and purchased the parts myself, expected to pay for an hours work. 2 hours at the most... yet got billed for fucking 4! Unless, of course, they actually charge £96 an hour... which is extortionate if you consider the other garages are paying £25 an hour
On the receipt he never quoted how many hours labour it was. I wonder why...
felix
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Maybe I missed something in your rant, but if that truly is your attitude then I don't know what to tell you. I can only presume you don't have a trade or professional background, otherwise you wouldn't undervalue your fellow man's endeavours quite so much.
No Felix, there's no existent attitude in that statement. I'm telling you the formula, which I think is bound by law, for how their costs are calculated.
They have to charge you by the hours they work. It's how it's billed.
They cannot bill you for 4 hours work, for something that took them 1 hour. It's called profiteering. I'm not certain what the law is on what they are entitled to charge, it might be in my interest to look it up however.
Now stop looking for holes in my story, because you won't find any. It's time to be a big man, and face up that you were wrong to call me "fucking delusional" and "talking shite", and a bill of £115 is indeed extortionate for a simple job that they most likely did in half an hour.
They have to charge you by the hours they work. It's how it's billed.
They cannot bill you for 4 hours work, for something that took them 1 hour. It's called profiteering. I'm not certain what the law is on what they are entitled to charge, it might be in my interest to look it up however.
Now stop looking for holes in my story, because you won't find any. It's time to be a big man, and face up that you were wrong to call me "fucking delusional" and "talking shite", and a bill of £115 is indeed extortionate for a simple job that they most likely did in half an hour.
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felix
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Well... I'm clearly missing something fundamental in your story, and I genuinely apologise if that is the case. (Which I'm sure you're sure of.)
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
You're in the wrong, Felix. And it's ok... We all make mistakes; all of us. But this time it's you. My anger was genuinely placed, and you jumped to the wrong conclusions. You were cynical, you were ignorant and you criticised me without any knowledge of the full story.
I see that you are apologising now, and it's ok. You've done the right thing this time. I forgive you.
Now let's move on and let this thread progress in it's own course - let's see new, exciting avenues of anger.
Hey while im at it, can anyone answer this....
WHY is google maps so damn RUBBISH.
For something that's on every phone, every sat nav, every "directions" page on a website..... SURELY they'd have the sense to make the roads look just a little more visible?
Look at screen shot.
It's like looking at a blur of white. How are you meant to plan a route, when you can't see the fooking roads!?!?
And also has anyone been caught out, by following what looks like a road on google maps, to find it's the tiniest of lanes which you can barely get a car down and adds 30 mins onto your journey?
I appreciate the satellite view helps a little more, but surely the main maps that people look at should be a little more clearly marked than this blur of whiteness
I see that you are apologising now, and it's ok. You've done the right thing this time. I forgive you.
Now let's move on and let this thread progress in it's own course - let's see new, exciting avenues of anger.
Hey while im at it, can anyone answer this....
WHY is google maps so damn RUBBISH.
For something that's on every phone, every sat nav, every "directions" page on a website..... SURELY they'd have the sense to make the roads look just a little more visible?
Look at screen shot.
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It's like looking at a blur of white. How are you meant to plan a route, when you can't see the fooking roads!?!?
And also has anyone been caught out, by following what looks like a road on google maps, to find it's the tiniest of lanes which you can barely get a car down and adds 30 mins onto your journey?
I appreciate the satellite view helps a little more, but surely the main maps that people look at should be a little more clearly marked than this blur of whiteness
felix
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OK, Raas. :D
When you plan a route on google maps, it shows up as a blue line, so that covers up the white lines.
I'd agree that it's not perfect, and that blue should indicate WATER, not fucking roads. There was a funny scene in Arrested Development in a similar vein, where Buster said something like "well, the blue part on the map clearly indicates land". :D
When you plan a route on google maps, it shows up as a blue line, so that covers up the white lines.
I'd agree that it's not perfect, and that blue should indicate WATER, not fucking roads. There was a funny scene in Arrested Development in a similar vein, where Buster said something like "well, the blue part on the map clearly indicates land". :D
....Google owns you 
Yeah, but if you just want to look at the map to assess all the possible routes, and generally what roads exist... you can't differentiate them from the background.
For something as widespread as google maps, I can't understand why it's so bad. This has confounded me for years.
For something as widespread as google maps, I can't understand why it's so bad. This has confounded me for years.
BlueBull
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My replacement laptop, which I've had for 2.5 months has just fucked up somehow. It's working but the screen is just black at login.
Fucks sake.
I've had that too recently, or at least something similar, after a windows update. Do you still see the mouse cursor?
If your aim is turn-by-turn navigation and you have a decent smartphone, there are some really awesome navigation apps out there. Copilot and Sygic are the most used I think, they turn your cellphone into a full-fledged gps with the maps stored locally on the device, so no internet connection needed. I've been using copilot for years, never failed me
Pissed off. An old H dealer of mine came around earlier,bought 2 bags off him and took down his new number but must have put in wrong digit somewhere as it doesn't work and I got no way of contacting him now unless I miraculously bump into him somewhere.
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Yes, only briefly if I tap the touch-screen. I had installed the update & restarted fine earlier in the day then it crashed with the usual internal video scheduler error I get with Netflix from time-to-time then it restarted and this happened. I even saw the wifi logo at login briefly after it booted once but not sure what is going on.
I was going to try Google it today on my Dad's laptop.
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