EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Megathread v. XIV Pirate Flagship

[Allein]

Oh a don't know, buying in in 4 times what you actually need often works it makes me hurl these days so I'm sticking the amphetamines

 

[kingme]

well...
finally had me some meph.

what can is say, its a really *really* nice drug. havent had any preban, but this one is supposedly of good quality and i see no reason to doubt that, as 80mg oral felt fine, and nasal doses went even better on top.

however, it is very short lived. a few hours is all you get from it, and the crash is quite pronounced! i can see why one could fall for this with constant redosing, but sadly i dont think this is getting there in the top 5 drugs any time soon. maybe top 10.

 

[SummerSerenade]

^ Wish I could still feel 80mg oral, pff.

Yeah I guess you do only get a few hours from it if you only dose once but redosing doesn't become less effective even after 10 hours or so so it's not really a problem if you want to keep going all night. It can last however long you do so it's perfect. And for me it doesn't lose effectiveness after days straight so even better.

Speaking of which, about to get onto day 4 now, go hard etc.

 

[zzz101]

redosing is effective with meph yep. miss it.

but i remember dat comedown too, man. one time i did meph night when i had a cold and next day EHHHHHH. comedown in bed all day


idk the meph now is different. the old days even ppl who didn't touch drugs were doing meph. and loving it

 

[mister]

well...
finally had me some meph.

what can is say, its a really *really* nice drug. havent had any preban, but this one is supposedly of good quality and i see no reason to doubt that, as 80mg oral felt fine, and nasal doses went even better on top.

however, it is very short lived. a few hours is all you get from it, and the crash is quite pronounced! i can see why one could fall for this with constant redosing, but sadly i dont think this is getting there in the top 5 drugs any time soon. maybe top 10.

The difference between enjoying mephedrone and REALLY enjoying mephedrone is the dose, if your "attack dose" is too low -150mgs, the experience doesnt seem to get any better with subsequent doses. I find 150 - 250mg initial dose followed up by 100-150mg dose around 1.5 - 2 hours later.

There's no point in posting times and doses past the 2 hour mark as this is when things get messy.

 

[kingme]

dont know man, twas my first time, so decidedly HR about the whole thing, with allergy doses and all the care in the world.
i very rarely go for full doses anyway in the beginning....

redosing might work, but if pervious expereinces with most drugs is anything to go by, redosing is a sure way to exponentially increasing the comedown.... not my favourite thing in the world. i do agree what you said about attack doses...

see, id much prefer something like 6apb which is longer lasting and doesnt work well with redosing, at least you know what you sign up for int he very beginning...

@zzz - i think that is the case with most good drugs in the beginning at least. wasnt mdma like that too? and lsd?

 

[zzz101]

@zzz - i think that is the case with most good drugs in the beginning at least. wasnt mdma like that too? and lsd?

depends.

with stuff like MXE and MDMA i think it's a different drug totally, or different isomer (basically same drug, just different chemical structures)

I am not surre it is all speculation, no pharmaceutical companies make these drugs for mass recreational use so well never really know.

There has always been that argument mdma and lsd haven't been the same since back in the day. or you know, that there is 'cleaner' lsd.
All i can say is i can 100% tell difference with some good MDMA (more love) and some bad MDMA (less love). Who knows why they are different? the stuff made from saf oil has been good.


ppl notice difference in these 'same' drugs(me too), most likely result is that the chemical structures have not ended up the same as original. even though it is still the same drug. who really knows any inputs from anyone?

and i also guess there are so many variables it doesn't matter even discussing it, idk

 

[methyldreams]

all i can say to you zzz101 for over 10 years i ate a shit load of pills from age 1999-2007 and at the start they were something magical when you got a good clean MDMA or MDA. I cant tell the diffrenece from MDMA and MDA. I do not own any labratory XTC analyser tester thingo the first year 99- to early 00's was getting the sHit!all the time, the after that the good 1's would come in patchers. I will never foreget that taste of a MDMA?MDA pill.

My point being is that I started to like a very similar tasting pill which had the same effects as good MDMA just less love and seemed to hit faster and not last as long, but I still enjoyed em was better then getting total HM press fake crap that started to dominate my local market.. I stopped bothering back 5 years ago.. iv rolled once since then I only got the tiniest momentum up

in my opinion age does not affect the enjoyment or effects off MDMA?MDA would love to have a pile of drone,mdma and mda all labled and taste test em blindfolded

 

[biggaman]

redosing is effective with meph yep. miss it.




idk the meph now is different. the old days even ppl who didn't touch drugs were doing meph. and loving it

This was me down to a T. Now I can't find anything that hits the spot just like the old mephedrone.... ( I don't miss the 3 day come downs though!)

 

[ColtDan]

see, id much prefer something like 6apb which is longer lasting and doesnt work well with redosing, at least you know what you sign up for int he very beginning...

Same here these days. 6-APB is wicked

All i can say is i can 100% tell difference with some good MDMA (more love) and some bad MDMA (less love). Who knows why they are different? the stuff made from saf oil has been good.

Likewise, can deffo tell the difference. Thought i had "lost the magic" , shite love lacking mongy stuff, until i tried a different batch of crystal awhile ago and felt like i should

but i remember dat comedown too, man. one time i did meph night when i had a cold and next day EHHHHHH. comedown in bed all day


idk the meph now is different. the old days even ppl who didn't touch drugs were doing meph. and loving it

Amazing times. and those comedowns were brutal. and yeah i agree its different, the last lot i had had lots of brilliant reviews on it, but turned out to be pretty bollocks. It all seems to lack the crazy stimulation now. Used to get me flying

This was me down to a T. Now I can't find anything that hits the spot just like the old mephedrone.... ( I don't miss the 3 day come downs though!)

Those comedowns were horrendous, i dont miss them either. Absolutely ruined me

 

[benson7]

was waiting on 4g vendor fucked up send me 4g mdma can't be too mad can i? 8(

Has anyone tried MDMA/mpeh combos? I've done meph on a comedown and it was rubbish. Never tried them together at once though.

 

[ColtDan]

Yeah, they dont mix well. Made the mistake of mixing them a few times thinking theyll mix nicely, and they dont

 

[Chatative]

Using MDMA & Meph together is very unwise. They both act on serotonin, so you'd run the risk of getting serotonin syndrome.

You'll get more out of them using them on separate nights.

 

[keeping]

Using MDMA & Meph together is very unwise. They both act on serotonin, so you'd run the risk of getting serotonin syndrome.

hospitalized for that in 2010. my general rule is never combine uppers.

this new drone is vile. weaker and just generally more horrible in every way.

 

[mister]

Ive had a small amount of mdma with meph and it made me pretty messy, was less than 100mg mdma and was more than enough. Meph is nice enough on its own.

Some of the meph sold these days has been lab tested as fairly pure meph but doesnt quite have that special something we all loved. Why is that, Is it rose coloured glasses or something else? Due to my location I never hammered meph but did a bit when it was legal and I have a pretty strong memory of how it was because the effect was incredibly memorable. Fast forward a few years and its not the same, its still nice but but not oh my god this is fucking ace!!!!
Maybe as we get older our brains produce less of the feel good chemicals which would explain why we get more grumpy as we get older

 

[JohnnyVodka]

This can be good, in the same way as meph + m1, as it makes the MDMA (or m1) a bit speedier. But you need to keep the dose of meph low compared to MDMA. I'd say a 1:3 to max 1:2 ratio, otherwise meph takes over. For example, 120mg MDMA + 60mg meph.

 

[Chatative]

Strange you should say that... side tracking a little bit but I found M1 by itself had a sort of residual stimulation that was uncomfortable, whilst Mephedrone made it a more enjoyable stimulation.

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Strange you should say that... side tracking a little bit but I found M1 by itself had a sort of residual stimulation that was uncomfortable, whilst Mephedrone made it a more enjoyable stimulation.

Yes, you could do m1, think it was too mellow, do a bit more, and suddenly find the tail-end was very speedy (and a little trippy), often uncomfortably so. M1 was always best just in one sensible dose.

I thought it was common agreement that meph + m1 could be a lovely combo?

I think these combos especially work when an individual finds either (1) MDMA has lost its speediness or (2) meph has lost its empathy. The combinations took me back to when I first started doing pills and you got that combo of speediness/empathy/sensuality.

 

[Ophidian]

In july i did a MDMA/Meph combo. Felt pretty good but didnt drop at the same time. I always find Meph to be overpowering the MDMA when combining at the same time.
I usually start out with bombing the MDMA first and some hours later i will add some lines of Meph to the mix. Pretty damn good.

The Methylone and Mephedrone combo is also golden and i can vouch for a Meph + 4-FA combo aswell - Feels just a bit rough on the cardiovascular system

One of my favorite Meph combos are mixing with a short acting benzo combined with Meph. Takes away all jitters and just leave you with pure euphoria,

 

[SummerSerenade]

I thought MDMA and meph was a bollocks combo and pretty pointless. I didn't feel shit at all in terms of comedowns after but the person I did it with did iirc. It's a waste, similar enough effects as it is, why not do them seperately and get better effects and get two amazing highs instead of one shit one?

As for meph being worse than pre ban nowadays, it's rose coloured glasses and changes in your body. I've only ever done post ban and when I first got into it it was as amazing as fuck, easily like what people have described pre ban as. And then, oh, guess what? It stopped being as good. And I always buy from the same person so was that because of a huge change in quality? No. It was the same for all batches. Not as amazing as the start of when I did it, and the reason why is BECAUSE I GOT USED TO IT. Maybe pre ban was... a bit better yes. But not so much more that it was a completely different drug.

QUESTION TIME THOUGH:
Injecting meph - worth it or nein? Heard the effects aren't significantly better but that may be me misremembering. Also dose for someone with (big but not huge) meph tolerance? Similar amount to injecting coke or speed?