Benzos RC Question w/experience

[XANAX XR]

Basically, from what I will write below, I would like to know experiences from users [possibly in my same position] with RC benzos.

Yes, I have tried Etizolam, it made it to my *very, very* small town, ironically it was a friend of mine, more so my brother's friend, anyway, I believe he had etilaam, not etizest. [My thoughts: needed more than 1mg.. didn't feel much but the MD kicked in...in like 30 seconds]

Point is, I simply don't have the patience anymore to wait for *a, not mine* script of clonazepam (2mg pills by sandoz., some reason they just do it the best.. ). I would normally buy etizolam but I don't work until dec. 9th [lack of money] because I am on break, however, I did find etizest vendor in us > us, reliable too.. but I was curious if there is any RC benzo ( i know that etizolam is a thienodiazepine ) that is "better" or better for me?

I find clonazepam to be much better than xanax, in euphoria, party drug, anti-anxiety, and of course it's long half life and long lasting effects . Xanax, I kind of hate, it's nice but it lasts about 2 hours for me, the more I use it (even if it hits me hard, I've been on roughly 0-4mg a month for the past 3-4 months), 1mg will last an hour, 2mg will last 2 hours.... not the usual 4-6 . Clonazepam has never let me down and usually exceeds 8 hours at 1-2mg, usually 2.

I was thinking my best options are etizolam or flubromazepam... opinions?

- - I thankfully have gotten over my extreme clonazepam addiction and my long ass withdrawal is over after I was in the hospital for a week, it just kinda went away... I realized how dumb I was being [with the drug, other than that, I was pretty damn smart, having good grades compared to now, plus getting shit done at my job].. kind of over the abuse and my anxiety has been so bad for the longest time, I really need something to cut the edge, as psychiatry up here is worse than I would have ever imagined. - -


edit - - another side note - - I try my best to make posts sound, intelligible, it's just very hard for me without medication, like clonazepam, . I have quite the experience with benzos, I'm just too fucking lazy to type it up, I am one of those people who find a better rush from IV benzos over IV opiates (morphine and fentanyl).

 

[hatrix]

Ok, first of all... IVing benzos is pointless and stupid. Their oral BA is incredibly high. It's also highly dangerous, unless you happen to have an ampule made for IV injection, which I'm doubting. Their solubility in water is incredibly low.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish here. You said you finally got over a benzo addiction, but you're asking which RC benzo you should use to ease your anxiety? That sounds counter intuitive to me, and it's only going to lead you back to addiction again.

Lay off the benzos and look for drug free ways to lessen your anxiety. If you became addicted to clonazepam, you're going to become addicted to any other benzo in my opinion, and it's only going to cause you more pain.

If you truly have anxiety problems, see a doctor. Don't try to self medicate.

 

[XANAX XR]

Ok, first of all... IVing benzos is pointless and stupid. Their oral BA is incredibly high. It's also highly dangerous, unless you happen to have an ampule made for IV injection, which I'm doubting. Their solubility in water is incredibly low.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish here. You said you finally got over a benzo addiction, but you're asking which RC benzo you should use to ease your anxiety? That sounds counter intuitive to me, and it's only going to lead you back to addiction again.

Lay off the benzos and look for drug free ways to lessen your anxiety. If you became addicted to clonazepam, you're going to become addicted to any other benzo in my opinion, and it's only going to cause you more pain.

If you truly have anxiety problems, see a doctor. Don't try to self medicate.

I could sit here and explain how severe my anxiety is, along with other psychotic disorders and how the doctor offered me an SSRI or SNRI, aha, as well as no psychiatrists will see me, my family doctor even referred me, still attempting to... I am highly informed on forms of anxiety treatments aside from benzos, which yes is short term..

I did get over my clonazepam addiction, as in I didn't have control over it, I do now, I don't take it at all anymore because a lack of having a script every month I can purchase.


- - I pop benzos, don't IV them but when I did, it was an ampule.


---edit--- i feel like you're attacking me for taking an anti-anxiety medication for anxiety, as well as looking into LEGAL methods of doing so? I don't think anyone on here wants to hear the severity of my mental disorders, yes, I should see a doctor but some people who live in small areas, don't have that luxury.

 

[phatass]

Allright let's all take a deep breath. Etizolam, advantage, the thienodiazepine in question is IME a short acting mix of valium and xanax effects... in powder form will be cheaper but less easy to obtain, Meclonazepam, especially if clonazepam works well for you is a good candidate, allthough as you have the real deal, you might want to privilage Etiolam. Flubromazepam, slightly different, again, cheap in powder form (Scales 0.00mg min are a must to dose) is a "good" one.... Don't bother with the RC benzo hypnotics (Phenaz/ flubromazoLAM etc.), they don't seem like your "cup of tea".

I would stick to etizolam ^pellets or powder provided you have a scale, followed by flubromazePAM (longer lasting, slight nuances...). Etizolam, stays the "safest value".

For HR, Etizolam is extremely addictive, you do NOT want to be in etiz withdrawal!!!!!! Tread cautiously. If you can get moe Rx Benzos because you NEED them, then do so, first try via your doc, 10mg valium or 0.5mg xanax/day, but 2mg K-Pin/ day is allready a high (ish) dailly dose. Advantage of etiz, you can replace your clonaz with etiz from time to time, it will give you a different form of relief from anxiety, or keep the etiz as a last resort safetey net.

GAD or social phobia i presume.?!

Favourise therapy, use the benzos as a crutch, and get rid of daily use is my strong advice to you (I am a long term bezo benzo addict, very high doses at some points... also have tried most common RC Benzo's) so trust my advice, please.

GL, hope this helps a bit!

 

[XANAX XR]

Allright let's all take a deep breath. Etizolam, advantage, the thienodiazepine in question is IME a short acting mix of valium and xanax effects... in powder form will be cheaper but less easy to obtain, Meclonazepam, especially if clonazepam works well for you is a good candidate, allthough as you have the real deal, you might want to privilage Etiolam. Flubromazepam, slightly different, again, cheap in powder form (Scales 0.00mg min are a must to dose) is a "good" one.... Don't bother with the RC benzo hypnotics (Phenaz/ flubromazoLAM etc.), they don't seem like your "cup of tea".

I would stick to etizolam ^pellets or powder provided you have a scale, followed by flubromazePAM (longer lasting, slight nuances...). Etizolam, stays the "safest value".

For HR, Etizolam is extremely addictive, you do NOT want to be in etiz withdrawal!!!!!! Tread cautiously. If you can get moe Rx Benzos because you NEED them, then do so, first try via your doc, 10mg valium or 0.5mg xanax/day, but 2mg K-Pin/ day is allready a high (ish) dailly dose. Advantage of etiz, you can replace your clonaz with etiz from time to time, it will give you a different form of relief from anxiety, or keep the etiz as a last resort safetey net.

GAD or social phobia i presume.?!

Favourise therapy, use the benzos as a crutch, and get rid of daily use is my strong advice to you (I am a long term bezo benzo addict, very high doses at some points... also have tried most common RC Benzo's) so trust my advice, please.

GL, hope this helps a bit!

Thanks for your input, much appreciated. I'd have to agree on most of that... I do like hypnotic benzos, however, I am not interested in flubromazolam, would rather go with triazolam, if I could ever get my hands on it... ( mainly just to do it for fun, haha, not really good for any "longish term" relief ).

For me, etizolam has been around the longest, I have been watching reviews from bluelight for years and flubromazepam has a slightly solid review but.. not quite. I am ordering some etizolam tonight regardless, we'll see how well that goes... I am owed clonazepam, so I will definitely do some side by side comparisons.


BTW - I just get the 2mg clonazepam pills, the 1mg for some reason don't do it for me, at least by Mylan and the Mylan 2mg, can't feel a thing... I usually split them in half. WHen I was addicted I re-upped like every hour with a half pill [1mg], i was bad... but now, for the most part, i am very clean.

 

[BENZObrist18]

I could sit here and explain how severe my anxiety is, along with other psychotic disorders and how the doctor offered me an SSRI or SNRI, aha, as well as no psychiatrists will see me, my family doctor even referred me, still attempting to... I am highly informed on forms of anxiety treatments aside from benzos, which yes is short term..

I did get over my clonazepam addiction, as in I didn't have control over it, I do now, I don't take it at all anymore because a lack of having a script every month I can purchase.


- - I pop benzos, don't IV them but when I did, it was an ampule.


---edit--- i feel like you're attacking me for taking an anti-anxiety medication for anxiety, as well as looking into LEGAL methods of doing so? I don't think anyone on here wants to hear the severity of my mental disorders, yes, I should see a doctor but some people who live in small areas, don't have that luxury.

It's only considered legal if its not for human consumption which is honestly just so fucking dumb. Who actually buys research chems from shady websites for actual research purposes? Answer: no one
Benzos can be great for anxiety, but they can also wreck some major havoc on your life as I'm sure your aware. I actually found breathing exercises helped a whole lot more than I thought. At first I wrote them off as a joke, but if you actually give them a shot they might work for you as well.

Goodluck

 

[hatrix]

I could sit here and explain how severe my anxiety is, along with other psychotic disorders and how the doctor offered me an SSRI or SNRI, aha, as well as no psychiatrists will see me, my family doctor even referred me, still attempting to... I am highly informed on forms of anxiety treatments aside from benzos, which yes is short term..

I did get over my clonazepam addiction, as in I didn't have control over it, I do now, I don't take it at all anymore because a lack of having a script every month I can purchase.


- - I pop benzos, don't IV them but when I did, it was an ampule.


---edit--- i feel like you're attacking me for taking an anti-anxiety medication for anxiety, as well as looking into LEGAL methods of doing so? I don't think anyone on here wants to hear the severity of my mental disorders, yes, I should see a doctor but some people who live in small areas, don't have that luxury.

I'm certainly not attacking you. I'm prescribed 90 5mg diazepam every month for my own anxiety disorder.

I'm just saying if you had a problem with addiction to benzos before, tread lightly.

 

[XANAX XR]

I'm certainly not attacking you. I'm prescribed 90 5mg diazepam every month for my own anxiety disorder.

I'm just saying if you had a problem with addiction to benzos before, tread lightly.

That is what I'm trying to do, slowly, with caution . I feel like my mental disorders are just too bad, I don't even have fun with anything anymore, so hopefully I won't abuse the shit out of them, again.

 

[hatrix]

That is what I'm trying to do, slowly, with caution . I feel like my mental disorders are just too bad, I don't even have fun with anything anymore, so hopefully I won't abuse the shit out of them, again.

I mean if you think it will truly help, it's worth a try. But benzos can definitely turn you into a zombie, and then everything is going to be even less fun than it already is.

 

[XANAX XR]

I mean if you think it will truly help, it's worth a try. But benzos can definitely turn you into a zombie, and then everything is going to be even less fun than it already is.

Weirdly enough, I wake up one them, my best description of it ( i quit tweaks a long time ago ), is, klonopin is my adderall. Of course, when I take a long break from any benzos, I do get the zombie effect slightly, at first... it goes away pretty quickly though. I have yet to black out on them, even at 20-30mg doses.

 

[hatrix]

Weirdly enough, I wake up one them, my best description of it ( i quit tweaks a long time ago ), is, klonopin is my adderall. Of course, when I take a long break from any benzos, I do get the zombie effect slightly, at first... it goes away pretty quickly though. I have yet to black out on them, even at 20-30mg doses.

That's not really what I mean. My valium motivates me too, makes me fine with getting work done. Thats cause it's easing my anxiety that would otherwise have me laying down doing nothing all day.. It makes me feel normal.

What's going to happen is you're going to become physically addicted to it, and without it you will have some of the worst days imaginable. The risk isn't truly worth it for most people. You HAVE TO be able to manage your use, not abuse it, or it is going to bite you in the ass.

I have never blacked out from diazepam, even at 60mg+ doses. I've been prescribed 90 5mg tabs a month for over a year though. I've also never been in withdrawal, and I've had plenty of times where I ran out early (like right now actually).

 

[tunesey]

That's not really what I mean. My valium motivates me too, makes me fine with getting work done. Thats cause it's easing my anxiety that would otherwise have me laying down doing nothing all day.. It makes me feel normal.

What's going to happen is you're going to become physically addicted to it, and without it you will have some of the worst days imaginable. The risk isn't truly worth it for most people. You HAVE TO be able to manage your use, not abuse it, or it is going to bite you in the ass.

I have never blacked out from diazepam, even at 60mg+ doses. I've been prescribed 90 5mg tabs a month for over a year though. I've also never been in withdrawal, and I've had plenty of times where I ran out early (like right now actually).

I always black out on diaz 100 mg= alcohol I wouldn't recommend it though or you might wake up dead guess ive been lucky

 

[XANAX XR]

That's not really what I mean. My valium motivates me too, makes me fine with getting work done. Thats cause it's easing my anxiety that would otherwise have me laying down doing nothing all day.. It makes me feel normal.

What's going to happen is you're going to become physically addicted to it, and without it you will have some of the worst days imaginable. The risk isn't truly worth it for most people. You HAVE TO be able to manage your use, not abuse it, or it is going to bite you in the ass.

I have never blacked out from diazepam, even at 60mg+ doses. I've been prescribed 90 5mg tabs a month for over a year though. I've also never been in withdrawal, and I've had plenty of times where I ran out early (like right now actually).

No, I do know what you're saying. I have been physically addicted already, I couldn't move for 3 days, getting over 3 withdrawals in my past wasn't fun but I'd take it over my anxiety.

 

[keeping]

No, I do know what you're saying. I have been physically addicted already, I couldn't move for 3 days, getting over 3 withdrawals in my past wasn't fun but I'd take it over my anxiety.

It sucks that anxiety is making you go to these lengths - and I sympathize - but you really don't want etizolam w/d. I don't know what makes it so specially acute, but it was just the worst thing that ever happened to me; delerium, hallucination, DTs, psychosis, seizures. I nearly died. I've w/drawn from valium and clonazepam and neither held a candle to the horror of etz w/d. I couldn't comment on flubro, having never taken it singularly and long enough to wind up in that mess, and I reaaaaally don't want to.

be safe! this stuff can either be a godsend or concentrated extract of nightmare.

 

[XANAX XR]

It sucks that anxiety is making you go to these lengths - and I sympathize - but you really don't want etizolam w/d. I don't know what makes it so specially acute, but it really was the worst thing that ever happened to me; delerium, hallucination, DTs, psychosis, seizures. I nearly died. I've w/drawn from valium and clonazepam and neither held a candle to the horror of etz w/d. I couldn't comment on flubro, having never taken it singularly and long enough to wind up in that mess, and I reaaaaally don't want to.

be safe! this stuff can either be a godsend or concentrated extract of nightmare.

Etizolam , when I took it last year, was not something I'd "chase", I did read some HOW FUCKING QUICK it is to w/d off it is though... which shocks me, because some inaccurate (obviously) studies are saying it is less addictive and doesn't show to be something you can withdraw from... I wish clonazepam was prescribed to me along with something other than an anti-depressant... we'll see how my next psych visit goes.

 

[XANAX XR]

Due to how fast my tolerance builds now, from past-abuse, my w/d symptoms come back as little as 5-10 doses within a month, small or big, not a full w/d, but a lot of symptoms return... I feel like etizolam will be within the 2-5 dose range, honestly.

 

[tunesey]

IMHO the best RC benzo is flubromazepam they are pricey in the UK and only come in pellet form. When I first started ordering they would always send me more than I ordered. I take it this was an attempt to get me on the hook. Now I am on the hook and order every month to top up my 1 mg per day k-pin script as I just cant get any sleep from 1 mg of my k-pins. I only get what I order now so I am going to drop 4 mg every 2 weeks I am currently on 24 mg per night of the RCs

hopefully I can jump right off without any W/Ds and stay on what is prescribed by my doc wish me luck I know I am gonna need it

 

[XANAX XR]

I am not sure where to go, med-wise, for my disorders, etizolam is not nearly as powerful or clean as clonazepam is.... and I can barely feel clonazepam or xanax in any dose..

I gave my receptors the longest break they have had and I don't even get a treat .

 

[GettinTizzed]

It sucks that anxiety is making you go to these lengths - and I sympathize - but you really don't want etizolam w/d. I don't know what makes it so specially acute, but it was just the worst thing that ever happened to me; delerium, hallucination, DTs, psychosis, seizures. I nearly died. I've w/drawn from valium and clonazepam and neither held a candle to the horror of etz w/d. I couldn't comment on flubro, having never taken it singularly and long enough to wind up in that mess, and I reaaaaally don't want to.

be safe! this stuff can either be a godsend or concentrated extract of nightmare.

How much and how often were you taking etiz?