• MDMA &
    Empathogenic
    Drugs

    Welcome Guest!
  • MDMA Moderators: Esperighanto

I cannot stop sleeping! Its so debilitating!

Cdilly93

Bluelighter
Joined
Feb 6, 2014
Messages
358
So if you've read my previous post, i "think" i had a bad comedown from this weekends use, but i ended up puking and getting nausea starting couple days ago so i put it off as getting sick, those went away since yesterday but still have this HORRIBLY bad lethargy that ive had since day one. I literally cannot do anything all day except lay in bed, its causing me not to do any of my normal day things and starting to get me very worried, this is day 5! When i get up i get very lightheaded aswell
 
Last edited:
This is normal after the amounts you did, thinking the rules don't apply to you. No doubt you can get out of bed, you're just feeling depressed & staying in bed will just make it worse. Force a good meal down or at least some protein shakes & a vitamin pill or something & get outside for some exercise.
 
Some people seem to be fine with sleeping and some not. The last time I took it I couldn't really sleep for 3 day's after after a dose of 80-100 mg and a redose of 40 mg 45 min. later. The times before that I was able to sleep. Could be that I took my last dose of 1.25 mg Abilify 5 days prior to the trip... But it should have been out of my body after 3 days. It is possible that I lost to much serotonin resulting in sleeping problems. As far as I know Abilify doesn't cause serotonin syndrome with MDMA, am I wrong?
 
Abilify causes insomnia though & has withdrawal symptoms. It has a 3 day half-life, so still got half of it in you after 3 days. Probably best not to mix MDMA with any anti-depressants or anti-psychotics, or with the conditions that they're prescribed for.
 
As far as I know Abilify doesn't cause serotonin syndrome with MDMA, am I wrong?
No it doesn't. It is partial agonist on some serotonin and dopamine receptors diminishing the effects of mdma.
 
So is there any chance of risk I was put on. I acted stupidly, I know, couldn't control myself :!. I didn't feel anything during the trip, besides being more acticve and a little positive.


"Aripiprazole's mechanism of action is different from those of the other FDA-approved atypical antipsychotics (e.g., clozapine, olanzapine, quetiapine, ziprasidone, and risperidone). Rather than antagonizing the D2 receptor, aripiprazole acts as a D2 partial agonist.[51][52] Aripiprazole is also a partial agonist at the 5-HT1A receptor, and like the other atypical antipsychotics displays an antagonist profile at the 5-HT2A receptor.[53][54] It also antagonizes the 5-HT7 receptor and acts as a partial agonist at the 5-HT2C receptor, both with high affinity. The latter action may underlie the minimal weight gain seen in the course of therapy.[55] Aripiprazole has moderate affinity for histamine, α-adrenergic, and D4 receptors as well as the serotonin transporter, while it has no appreciable affinity for cholinergic muscarinic receptors.[44]
D2 and D3 receptor occupancy levels are high, with average levels ranging between ~71% at 2 mg/day to ~96% at 40 mg/day.[56][57] Most atypical antipsychotics bind preferentially to extrastriatal receptors, but aripiprazole appears to be less preferential in this regard, as binding rates are high throughout the brain."



As I see it blocks some of the 5-HT receptors. It also seems to block the 5-HT1 receptor (saying partial agonist) and so it should mean that it couldn't cause a serotonin syndrome, or? On the other side it also is a substrate of CYP2D6 and CYP3A4 . Those are also important for MDMA metabolismn. So does anyone know if there could be severe side effects, since most of mdma neurotoxicity has been linked to the mdma metabolismn?

Edit: Myr was faster...

The sleeping problems should be a result of too less Serotonin.

Edit2: It seems to be neuroprotective, at least i hope it is.
 
Last edited:
in your other thread you mentioned that you probably got the flu. if so, then this could explain the lethargy too.
 
Didn't I just see a post from you about being immune to this shit ha. No one is safe from the long hard dick of mdma abuse. Sorry it probably caught up maybe your just sick though. Either way I suggest getting plenty of rest eating healthy drinking lots of water and taking it easy for a while. you will feel better.
 
Didn't I just see a post from you about being immune to this shit ha. No one is safe from the long hard dick of mdma abuse. Sorry it probably caught up maybe your just sick though. Either way I suggest getting plenty of rest eating healthy drinking lots of water and taking it easy for a while. you will feel better.
Yup, defin
 
You gotta fight it. Eat healthy, go out for some exercise as previously stated and keep yourself busy. I don't eat vitamins, but I'm sure they'd help you.

I think that if you don't underestimate this stuff and take caution, it won't bite you at all. I've abused mdma pretty badly myself, but that was after many years of getting use to it and always being around others who were experienced as well. I don't remember ever taking mdma alone.

Best of luck to you and get well soon.
 
Bump. feeling any better??
YES so much better, id say pretty much 100% im thinkin from me being sick and so tired that i was unable to do anything added to the post mdma depression and made it quite terrible frankly, once i got over being so lethargic my mood changed drastictly :)... Wont ever be doing two days in a row from now on haha
 
Top