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It's not...trust me I got from reputable vendor 100% accuracy. 30 mgs is NOT psychedelic....(mayube slightly, but you wont notice...it's nothing like a trip...it's just like MDMA.....!)

But Student! I tried to respond to your PM's and they said you are blocked from receiving them??! I got pissed, I think that's fucked up because it was an important Question you asked me.

I can respond through BL if you don't mind...Just let me know. They seem to be abusing their "power" here again. You cause no problems, they had no right to do that. They obviously don't care about you. They just act like they do. They are working for the darkside, no doubt. Of course though, this is a popular site. I was on here in 2000....this could of been a good site, if it wasn't over run by zombies. (No offense to all the mods, but whoever banned Studen made a mistake., that is NOT good for HR....Studen has reached out for help and needs advice)
 
The King of Beans said:
It's not...trust me I got from reputable vendor 100% accuracy. 30 mgs is NOT psychedelic....(mayube slightly, but you wont notice...it's nothing like a trip...it's just like MDMA.....!)

But Student! I tried to respond to your PM's and they said you are blocked from receiving them??! I got pissed, I think that's fucked up because it was an important Question you asked me.

I can respond through BL if you don't mind...Just let me know. They seem to be abusing their "power" here again. You cause no problems, they had no right to do that. They obviously don't care about you. They just act like they do. They are working for the darkside, no doubt. Of course though, this is a popular site. I was on here in 2000....this could of been a good site, if it wasn't over run by zombies. (No offense to all the mods, but whoever banned Studen made a mistake., that is NOT good for HR....Studen has reached out for help and needs advice)
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No offense man, you're a cool dude and all but don't you think you're getting trolled? That "Student" ignores all the best advices and posts the same crap everywhere nonstop. I'm glad the mods put a clamp on that because what he/she is doing/planning is dumb and the opposite of harm reduction.

It's clear that that poster needs help, not rc self-medication and then justifies it by saying he/she would commit suicide otherwise. That's balogna because someone who's serious about it would do it rather than say it on every post.

You don't have to take it upon yourself to help a person like that. That person is just gonna listen to him/herself anyway.
 
I think that student76 is addicted to serotonin releasers. If you are given antidepressants or other drugs at a young age it messes up your brain chemistry. Therefor it seems reasonable that she asks for help. But what shall we say? Nobody in here knows how the brain actually functions. There are so many unknown functions we have not even thought about. It is comparable to the deep sea... We know nothing about it. And Serotonin is not the only reason why you have depression! There are so many variables you have to think about. Don't forget that drugs do not only release serotonin or dopamin. That is the reason why every drug feels differently.

We can't help you student76, because we dont know how. Everybody reacts differently to drugs as well. I can only tell you that you will screw up your brain chemistry more and more. Only a specialist can really help you. So you might ask a known doctor doing studies etc. They have more insight than us. But be careful! Your brain tries to counterreact every substance you take by up and down regulation...
 
Kl519 said:
No offense man, you're a cool dude and all but don't you think you're getting trolled? That "Student" ignores all the best advices and posts the same crap everywhere nonstop. I'm glad the mods put a clamp on that because what he/she is doing/planning is dumb and the opposite of harm reduction.

It's clear that that poster needs help, not rc self-medication and then justifies it by saying he/she would commit suicide otherwise. That's balogna because someone who's serious about it would do it rather than say it on every post.

You don't have to take it upon yourself to help a person like that. That person is just gonna listen to him/herself anyway.
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It seemed like it at first, because hard to believe anyone could do that much....but just incase I take it seriously. You never know. It definitely is possible. People would think I'm a troll too if I told them how many drugs I used to do...lol

I just think they shouldn't selectively ban whoever they want for no reason. Everyone should have equal rights here. Banning someone from PM doesn't make sense to me, he should be allowed to ask questions, it might help him...I try to stay optimistic!


I know it's up to him to help himself ultimately, but at least try to give him a foundation of info to work on. But i am a believer that all truth is found from "within" and therefore, honestly asking other's opinions is not really going to lead you to your truth. I am sure the universe will give him the info he needs and lead him on the right path. 3-mmc is not a harsh drug, honestly....not sure if you've tried it or not, but WAY LESS harsh on your brain than MDMA is...you can get away with doing it everyday for a while. I was also doing it multiple times per day before I quit. But I still took a day or two off a week. And once I did it 9 days in a row (like a crazy binge, was doing it all day each day) and that is how I messed up my heart. I got numb that day in my face, might of had a mini stroke. Was never the same since
 
The King of Beans said:
It seemed like it at first, because hard to believe anyone could do that much....but just incase I take it seriously. You never know. It definitely is possible. People would think I'm a troll too if I told them how many drugs I used to do...lol

I just think they shouldn't selectively ban whoever they want for no reason. Everyone should have equal rights here. Banning someone from PM doesn't make sense to me, he should be allowed to ask questions, it might help him...I try to stay optimistic!


I know it's up to him to help himself ultimately, but at least try to give him a foundation of info to work on. But i am a believer that all truth is found from "within" and therefore, honestly asking other's opinions is not really going to lead you to your truth. I am sure the universe will give him the info he needs and lead him on the right path. 3-mmc is not a harsh drug, honestly....not sure if you've tried it or not, but WAY LESS harsh on your brain than MDMA is...you can get away with doing it everyday for a while. I was also doing it multiple times per day before I quit. But I still took a day or two off a week. And once I did it 9 days in a row (like a crazy binge, was doing it all day each day) and that is how I messed up my heart. I got numb that day in my face, might of had a mini stroke. Was never the same since
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That's true. However, I read Student's post too and he clearly has his own idea (eg. "What do you think?") and is probably just looking for confirmation. All he's waiting for is for someone to say, "yeah, do it" or something like that.

Are you sure the mods banned him though? Could be just PMs can't be sent for whatever reason or it's full...

Yeah. People are going to believe and think whatever they want regardless of what anyone says. All we can do is contribute (which, like many other sites, are user-based and it depends on our experiences for information) and leave it at that. I don't know about others, but I've revealed a lot of personal ish just to properly contribute here. Someone in person could probably ID me, but everyone else nope. I only think it's fair because I've learned a lot of stuff on here from other people's experiences too.

Of course, I ain't gonna reveal too much, that's just stupid. I saw a pic thread somewhere on BL and I was thinking...damn, that's perfect way to ID yourself on a site like this, lol.

But anyway, there's a difference between a troll and someone that really needs help. Since Student literally posts the same thing just in different words, I'm thinking it's a waste to reply. It's like words go right in one ear and out the other, and then repeats him/herself afterwards while waiting for what he/she wants to hear. Plus, we've taken 5 mapb ourselves and for damn sure it's not recommended for his/her situation, low doses or not. These are called research chemicals for a reason. If something happens then it's kind of on our conscience for recommending it.
 
Kl519 said:
That's true. However, I read Student's post too and he clearly has his own idea (eg. "What do you think?") and is probably just looking for confirmation. All he's waiting for is for someone to say, "yeah, do it" or something like that.

Are you sure the mods banned him though? Could be just PMs can't be sent for whatever reason or it's full...

Yeah. People are going to believe and think whatever they want regardless of what anyone says. All we can do is contribute (which, like many other sites, are user-based and it depends on our experiences for information) and leave it at that. I don't know about others, but I've revealed a lot of personal ish just to properly contribute here. Someone in person could probably ID me, but everyone else nope. I only think it's fair because I've learned a lot of stuff on here from other people's experiences too.

Of course, I ain't gonna reveal too much, that's just stupid. I saw a pic thread somewhere on BL and I was thinking...damn, that's perfect way to ID yourself on a site like this, lol.

But anyway, there's a difference between a troll and someone that really needs help. Since Student literally posts the same thing just in different words, I'm thinking it's a waste to reply. It's like words go right in one ear and out the other, and then repeats him/herself afterwards while waiting for what he/she wants to hear. Plus, we've taken 5 mapb ourselves and for damn sure it's not recommended for his/her situation, low doses or not. These are called research chemicals for a reason. If something happens then it's kind of on our conscience for recommending it.
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lol I see your point...I just thought he was deseperately reaching out for help. I am not sure if they banned him or not, but they wouldn't let me send him a PM or respond to his PM, they said he was "blocked" from receiving them. I've never heard of that before, so kinda caught me off guard.
 
The King of Beans said:
lol I see your point...I just thought he was deseperately reaching out for help. I am not sure if they banned him or not, but they wouldn't let me send him a PM or respond to his PM, they said he was "blocked" from receiving them. I've never heard of that before, so kinda caught me off guard.
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Ah ha, yeah I don't know why PM's wouldn't be sent either. It's cool, whoever that poster is will do what they want to do anyway.
 
Student was banned for obsessive spamming and crossposting. She was warned multiple times and eventually put on temp ban, once her "timeout" was up she returned and spammed more so she was banned again. She was no victim and there's no conspiracy, and the mods don't go around banning with no cause, hers was most definitely earned... If I was a mod I would've done the same in a heartbeat, probably even sooner. This person creates multiple threads with the same question in several subforums, and even moreso in pre-existing threads, only to ignore the advice given and insult moderators's intelligence bragging about how she studies pharmacology. KOB your wasting your time reaching out, she's only gonna ignore you in the end, and possibly go on about how your always wrong and she's smarter because she's studied pharmacology...
 
CaptainKratom said:
Student was banned for obsessive spamming and crossposting. She was warned multiple times and eventually put on temp ban, once her "timeout" was up she returned and spammed more so she was banned again. She was no victim and there's no conspiracy, and the mods don't go around banning with no cause, hers was most definitely earned... If I was a mod I would've done the same in a heartbeat, probably even sooner. This person creates multiple threads with the same question in several subforums, and even moreso in pre-existing threads, only to ignore the advice given and insult moderators's intelligence bragging about how she studies pharmacology. KOB your wasting your time reaching out, she's only gonna ignore you in the end, and possibly go on about how your always wrong and she's smarter because she's studied pharmacology...
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Seriously. That's the gist I got too. KOB is nice enough to put in effort, but it's hard to believe someone studying "pharmacie" would even suggest using rc's to cure her mental plight.

English isn't my 1st language either, but man, that grammar is atrocious.
 
CaptainKratom said:
Student was banned for obsessive spamming and crossposting. She was warned multiple times and eventually put on temp ban, once her "timeout" was up she returned and spammed more so she was banned again. She was no victim and there's no conspiracy, and the mods don't go around banning with no cause, hers was most definitely earned... If I was a mod I would've done the same in a heartbeat, probably even sooner. This person creates multiple threads with the same question in several subforums, and even moreso in pre-existing threads, only to ignore the advice given and insult moderators's intelligence bragging about how she studies pharmacology. KOB your wasting your time reaching out, she's only gonna ignore you in the end, and possibly go on about how your always wrong and she's smarter because she's studied pharmacology...
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Ah, got ya. I wasn't really aware of all that. Well I still wish him(or her) the best. I thought it might of been a chick too...lol well she should call herself "The Queen of 3-MMC" LOL no seriously i am a bit worried about them if what they are saying is true, only disasterous results can come out of abusing shit like that. I mean look what happened to us and we didn't even do the shit everyday.
 
Kl519 said:
Seriously. That's the gist I got too. KOB is nice enough to put in effort, but it's hard to believe someone studying "pharmacie" would even suggest using rc's to cure her mental plight.

English isn't my 1st language either, but man, that grammar is atrocious.
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I try to help when I can, but I agree they are not going to stop. But my advice wasn't telling them to quit altogether. I was trying to tell them to cut down and not do it everyday. They even said "I'll die from a heart attack, before I'll stop" and I agree with them there to an extent(Quality of life, over quantity....but the death of suffocating slowly will not be fun), if they do have severe brain problems, they do need a drug to maintain normal serotonin levels. And the drug industry/medical establishment simply doesn't have any drugs I'd ever recommend. They make you suicidal or even more depressed from what I hear. And they turn some people into psycho, zombie killers too. So I understood and agreed with them there and that's why I was trying to help them make the best choices based on their situation
 
The King of Beans said:
I try to help when I can, but I agree they are not going to stop. But my advice wasn't telling them to quit altogether. I was trying to tell them to cut down and not do it everyday. They even said "I'll die from a heart attack, before I'll stop" and I agree with them there to an extent(Quality of life, over quantity....but the death of suffocating slowly will not be fun), if they do have severe brain problems, they do need a drug to maintain normal serotonin levels. And the drug industry/medical establishment simply doesn't have any drugs I'd ever recommend. They make you suicidal or even more depressed from what I hear. And they turn some people into psycho, zombie killers too. So I understood and agreed with them there and that's why I was trying to help them make the best choices based on their situation
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Hmm, I see what you're saying. My gf took Zoloft before but she didn't like it. It didn't help with her depression and she couldn't stop taking it right away, she had to slowly taper off of it. She was going through a lot of problems that were family related, and all she needed was time and support to get through it.
I went to the doc before to get treated for my insomnia. I forgot what he prescribed me, but I never took it. That's because I remember these HUGE side effects, which were sleep walking and suicidal thoughts. So I was like, "Fuck this!" and trashed it. It's the sleep walking part that bothered me the most. That's just freaky and I use to live in an area where across the street there is very steep and long hill, not much different from a cliff. So, I still have trouble sleeping properly today, but after quitting e at least I don't stay up several days in a row, many times, like I used to. If I can get at least a few hours in each day, I'm good to go.
But yeah, I agree some legal drugs are downright nasty. I just don't know about rc's being that much better though. I could be absolutely wrong on that assumption, but I still wouldn't recommend it either. What I think is that Student needs some TLC rather than RC's if she's feeling suicidal. Or needs to watch some Simpson's, Family Guy, South Park, American Dad, etc. Just my 2 cents. Heh.
 
Kl519 said:
Hmm, I see what you're saying. My gf took Zoloft before but she didn't like it. It didn't help with her depression and she couldn't stop taking it right away, she had to slowly taper off of it. She was going through a lot of problems that were family related, and all she needed was time and support to get through it.
I went to the doc before to get treated for my insomnia. I forgot what he prescribed me, but I never took it. That's because I remember these HUGE side effects, which were sleep walking and suicidal thoughts. So I was like, "Fuck this!" and trashed it. It's the sleep walking part that bothered me the most. That's just freaky and I use to live in an area where across the street there is very steep and long hill, not much different from a cliff. So, I still have trouble sleeping properly today, but after quitting e at least I don't stay up several days in a row, many times, like I used to. If I can get at least a few hours in each day, I'm good to go.
But yeah, I agree some legal drugs are downright nasty. I just don't know about rc's being that much better though. I could be absolutely wrong on that assumption, but I still wouldn't recommend it either. What I think is that Student needs some TLC rather than RC's if she's feeling suicidal. Or needs to watch some Simpson's, Family Guy, South Park, American Dad, etc. Just my 2 cents. Heh.
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That's what I was saying...they need to find love or a girlfriend (or boyfriend) so that they can fill that void in their life. I've also been there (Still am) and I am getting better each day. I'm pretty much off all the drugs now, just the occasional cigarette or beer...but I don't need either one. I feel better to, and I think anyone can recover from brain damage, nothing has to be permanent. But it's not easy. Takes a lot of differnet factors to over come it (Proper nutrition, meditation, prayer, etc)

I agree about everything else you said (other than the cartoons...LOL I never liked those shows, but to each their own. They are good for those who find them funny...I have more of a sick sense of humor though, which cartoons just can't do for me. Check out this movie called "Where the Dead go to Die" It's all animated and is probably the sickest cartoon ever...and I still didn't like it. My favorite movie is called "A Serbian Film" if you like disturbing movies, check that one out. Also check out the cartoon one(Where the dead go to die), you may like it. It's really tripped out and sick, but I just can't get into cartoons. Also there's another awesome trip movie called "Visions of Suffering" .......(Let me know if you want to know where to find these movies...I know you'll LOVE Visions of Suffering if you're into trypatamines.... It is the most tripped out movie ever made....And WTDGTD is a close second I guess, but it's animated so couldn't really get into it....actually that shit would probably give you a bad trip...lol watch em sober first to see what you think. I watched VOS stoned and had an anxiety attack, cant imaginee what it would of been watching it on acid or shrooms LOL)

ps- LOL about the hill/cliff....but sorry to hear about the sleep probs. Don't worry too much about it. Try meditation and you wont have to sleep more than 3 hours a night, and you will be rested. Actually sleep is just programmed into us (Melatonin) it's a drug, none of us actually need to sleep. This has been proven. There is a guy who fried part of his brain, who hasn't slept a wink for over 30 years...he guards his farm at night....
 
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The King of Beans said:
That's what I was saying...they need to find love or a girlfriend (or boyfriend) so that they can fill that void in their life. I've also been there (Still am) and I am getting better each day. I'm pretty much off all the drugs now, just the occasional cigarette or beer...but I don't need either one. I feel better to, and I think anyone can recover from brain damage, nothing has to be permanent. But it's not easy. Takes a lot of differnet factors to over come it (Proper nutrition, meditation, prayer, etc)

I agree about everything else you said (other than the cartoons...LOL I never liked those shows, but to each their own. They are good for those who find them funny...I have more of a sick sense of humor though, which cartoons just can't do for me. Check out this movie called "Where the Dead go to Die" It's all animated and is probably the sickest cartoon ever...and I still didn't like it. My favorite movie is called "A Serbian Film" if you like disturbing movies, check that one out. Also check out the cartoon one(Where the dead go to die), you may like it. It's really tripped out and sick, but I just can't get into cartoons. Also there's another awesome trip movie called "Visions of Suffering" .......(Let me know if you want to know where to find these movies...I know you'll LOVE Visions of Suffering if you're into trypatamines.... It is the most tripped out movie ever made....And WTDGTD is a close second I guess, but it's animated so couldn't really get into it....actually that shit would probably give you a bad trip...lol watch em sober first to see what you think. I watched VOS stoned and had an anxiety attack, cant imaginee what it would of been watching it on acid or shrooms LOL)

ps- LOL about the hill/cliff....but sorry to hear about the sleep probs. Don't worry too much about it. Try meditation and you wont have to sleep more than 3 hours a night, and you will be rested. Actually sleep is just programmed into us (Melatonin) it's a drug, none of us actually need to sleep. This has been proven. There is a guy who fried part of his brain, who hasn't slept a wink for over 30 years...he guards his farm at night....
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Haha, I'll definitely check those out. Thanks. I don't watch tv much, but movies are another story. I can handle twisted and trippy; a long time ago, my friends and I watched Paranormal Activity, the first one, while rolling at the movies. It felt like my heart jumped to my throat and I kept seeing that ending with the girl's demon face long after the movie was over. I've watched a lot of horror movies just to get my ass freaked the hell out, but on a psychedelic or tryptamine I'd never do that. I watched Chicken Little on shrooms and that was the funniest shit ever.

Yeah, I've had insomnia even before I started using stuff, but of course it got worse after I used stims. I'm handling it okay I guess, but I like being awake because there's so much to do, but so little time.

I'll try to find them online, I'm sure I will or I'll look through Netflix too. I've tried meditation, but I suck at it. Plus my dog will probably whine, and wonder wtf I'm doing and bother me. She doesn't like it when I'm on stuff either, she can tell something's up and starts whining like crazy.

I wish I could not sleep for 30 years straight too and still be healthy. That would be fucking awesome, lol.

Yeah, animated shows are kinda kiddy, but I like the adult jokes. Comedy shows aren't that funny to me, I don't know why. SNL is either stupid funny or not funny at all. Have you tried watching movies on stims or psychs? I've done it a bunch of times and it's always fun and trippy.

I agree, a lot of damage is reversible. Even cigs are if you quit them long enough, except for the lung capacity I think, as in how long you can hold your breath. But the lungs will repair itself and become pink again. Probably a lot of the damage done by subs will go away after abstinence.
 
Kl519 said:
Haha, I'll definitely check those out. Thanks. I don't watch tv much, but movies are another story. I can handle twisted and trippy; a long time ago, my friends and I watched Paranormal Activity, the first one, while rolling at the movies. It felt like my heart jumped to my throat and I kept seeing that ending with the girl's demon face long after the movie was over. I've watched a lot of horror movies just to get my ass freaked the hell out, but on a psychedelic or tryptamine I'd never do that. I watched Chicken Little on shrooms and that was the funniest shit ever.

Yeah, I've had insomnia even before I started using stuff, but of course it got worse after I used stims. I'm handling it okay I guess, but I like being awake because there's so much to do, but so little time.

I'll try to find them online, I'm sure I will or I'll look through Netflix too. I've tried meditation, but I suck at it. Plus my dog will probably whine, and wonder wtf I'm doing and bother me. She doesn't like it when I'm on stuff either, she can tell something's up and starts whining like crazy.

I wish I could not sleep for 30 years straight too and still be healthy. That would be fucking awesome, lol.

Yeah, animated shows are kinda kiddy, but I like the adult jokes. Comedy shows aren't that funny to me, I don't know why. SNL is either stupid funny or not funny at all. Have you tried watching movies on stims or psychs? I've done it a bunch of times and it's always fun and trippy.

I agree, a lot of damage is reversible. Even cigs are if you quit them long enough, except for the lung capacity I think, as in how long you can hold your breath. But the lungs will repair itself and become pink again. Probably a lot of the damage done by subs will go away after abstinence.
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Oh yeah, I've watched movies on stims and psychs....I remember watching cheech and chong's up in smoke back in the day when I was a teenager...I was trippin balls in my living room watching it and I don't think my mom had any idea...because the movie is so funny as it is, she didn't think anything of my hysterical laughter...(lol) but I remember seeing these purple swirls spinning around on chong's face....and the part when he's like "Man I slept in a ditch last night man, I almost froze my balls off" was so fucking funny I just remember the look on his face made my crack up.

A Serbian Film is an awesome movie to watch on stims...I watched it on MDA a couple of times, and it was awesome. It's got a great soundtrack too, and the whole movie is intense from start to finish (Well it gets a lot more intense at the end though) .....You won't find these movies on netflix though...lol these are some of the most disturbing movies ever, so I heard that they removed A Serbian Film from netflix because of how controversial it is. It's not real though...so don't worry. Don't take it too seriously. (Like some people do, calling it "Child porn" ....when infact it is not at all child porn) There is a scene in the uncut version which involved a "baby" but it's actually a cabbage patch doll and looks totally fake, so don't let that disturb you too much. The movie itself is very well made, but it's made to shock people. But I liked how intense it was, and I love the music in it, and how dark the movie is. It starts out dark...and then continues to decend straight into the pits of hell (That's how I would describe it....no movie I've ever seen was darker, I don't think...)

I have a direct link to it on youtube if you want to watch it. It's got english subtitles. Most of the copies you find online are flawed, or cut, or don't have subs, so you'll want to watch the one I send a link to....I'll post it here (hope it's not against the rules) in a minute, I just have to find it.

Another good disturbing horror movie is called Grotesque, if you like extreme movies, give that one a shot as well. It was banned in many countries for being so intense. A serbian film did come out in the US finally, but they had to edit it just to give it an NC-17 rating! So, the uncut version is worse than NC-17...lol I guess they thought it was too bad for even american adults to watch. And honestly with the mentality of most people here, it really is. lol I love the movie though and I've seen it a bunch of times.

Visions of Suffering might be on netflix, but I doubt it. Also I doubt Where the Dead go to die is on there either, but you can check. I think I got both of those from torrentz.com (Utorrent is a good client to use) No viruses or anything in those movies. Visions of suffering is a straight up piece of art....there's hardly any story or dialouge....it's all about the visuals and music. It's pretty scary/creepy too(Actually VERY scary....like I said it gave me an anxiety attack first time I saw it and I had to turn it off and take a break...lol no movie's ever done that to me before. But I wasn't sober at all, so that had something to do with it I am sure)

Oh shit...just realized we're derailing the thread again lmao....I'll send the link to you through PM
 
Chickzterminator said:
Could you send me the link then :)
( would have pmd ypu but your folder is full)
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No problem, just sent.

Let me know what you think ! But read the reviews before watching a serbian film...so you know what to expect. And don't take it too seriously, and it shouldn't disturb you too much. Everything in the movie is just acting/fake...it's not real. I recently found a movie (Melancholie Der Engel) which has real animal creulty in it and I refuse to watch that shit. That would disturb me or piss me off too much.
 
The King of Beans said:
Oh yeah, I've watched movies on stims and psychs....I remember watching cheech and chong's up in smoke back in the day when I was a teenager...I was trippin balls in my living room watching it and I don't think my mom had any idea...because the movie is so funny as it is, she didn't think anything of my hysterical laughter...(lol) but I remember seeing these purple swirls spinning around on chong's face....and the part when he's like "Man I slept in a ditch last night man, I almost froze my balls off" was so fucking funny I just remember the look on his face made my crack up.

A Serbian Film is an awesome movie to watch on stims...I watched it on MDA a couple of times, and it was awesome. It's got a great soundtrack too, and the whole movie is intense from start to finish (Well it gets a lot more intense at the end though) .....You won't find these movies on netflix though...lol these are some of the most disturbing movies ever, so I heard that they removed A Serbian Film from netflix because of how controversial it is. It's not real though...so don't worry. Don't take it too seriously. (Like some people do, calling it "Child porn" ....when infact it is not at all child porn) There is a scene in the uncut version which involved a "baby" but it's actually a cabbage patch doll and looks totally fake, so don't let that disturb you too much. The movie itself is very well made, but it's made to shock people. But I liked how intense it was, and I love the music in it, and how dark the movie is. It starts out dark...and then continues to decend straight into the pits of hell (That's how I would describe it....no movie I've ever seen was darker, I don't think...)

I have a direct link to it on youtube if you want to watch it. It's got english subtitles. Most of the copies you find online are flawed, or cut, or don't have subs, so you'll want to watch the one I send a link to....I'll post it here (hope it's not against the rules) in a minute, I just have to find it.

Another good disturbing horror movie is called Grotesque, if you like extreme movies, give that one a shot as well. It was banned in many countries for being so intense. A serbian film did come out in the US finally, but they had to edit it just to give it an NC-17 rating! So, the uncut version is worse than NC-17...lol I guess they thought it was too bad for even american adults to watch. And honestly with the mentality of most people here, it really is. lol I love the movie though and I've seen it a bunch of times.

Visions of Suffering might be on netflix, but I doubt it. Also I doubt Where the Dead go to die is on there either, but you can check. I think I got both of those from torrentz.com (Utorrent is a good client to use) No viruses or anything in those movies. Visions of suffering is a straight up piece of art....there's hardly any story or dialouge....it's all about the visuals and music. It's pretty scary/creepy too(Actually VERY scary....like I said it gave me an anxiety attack first time I saw it and I had to turn it off and take a break...lol no movie's ever done that to me before. But I wasn't sober at all, so that had something to do with it I am sure)

Oh shit...just realized we're derailing the thread again lmao....I'll send the link to you through PM
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Just PM'ed you back. Thanks for the links. Yeah, horror movies can mess with your psyche as well, and I think that's part of the reason why I don't like hardcore psychedelics. It can make you anxious, scared, hear and see abnormal shit so I usually don't mix the two. When I watched The Ring, I didn't take lsd for a while because I knew I'd bad trip since lsd makes whatever you push to the back of your mind spring to the forefront, quite randomly too. It's controllable only to a certain extent.

Yeah, sensitive America has a way of not allowing certain movies or cutting certain parts out, therefore taking out the canonical aspects of it. I like English subtitled movies, it keeps everything intact. I'll check back here on the weekend and watch those movies. Heh, thanks.

Haha, that's funny. My parents never knew I was ever on anything either even when I was on something. Stims like mdma, meth, or 5 mapb are easy for me to hide in front of authority, whether it's parents or cops or something. They just think I'm in a good, sociable mood. I don't live too far from my parents so they'll randomly come over sometimes (me being nice, I gave them my spare house keys) with relatives so I STILL have to hide my shit. It's annoying, lol.

Yehh, I love watching dark movies on stims. It freaks you out even more but I can handle it on them, unlike trypts/psychs. I'll probably take the last of my 5 mapb watching those movies over the weekend.
 
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Just PM'ed you back. Thanks for the links. Yeah, horror movies can mess with your psyche as well, and I think that's part of the reason why I don't like hardcore psychedelics. It can make you anxious, scared, hear and see abnormal shit so I usually don't mix the two. When I watched The Ring, I didn't take lsd for a while because I knew I'd bad trip since lsd makes whatever you push to the back of your mind spring to the forefront, quite randomly too. It's controllable only to a certain extent.

Yeah, sensitive America has a way of not allowing certain movies or cutting certain parts out, therefore taking out the canonical aspects of it. I like English subtitled movies, it keeps everything intact. I'll check back here on the weekend and watch those movies. Heh, thanks.

Haha, that's funny. My parents never knew I was ever on anything either even when I was on something. Stims like mdma, meth, or 5 mapb are easy for me to hide in front of authority, whether it's parents or cops or something. They just think I'm in a good, sociable mood. I don't live too far from my parents so they'll randomly come over sometimes (me being nice, I gave them my spare house keys) with relatives so I STILL have to hide my shit. It's annoying, lol.

Yehh, I love watching dark movies on stims. It freaks you out even more but I can handle it on them, unlike trypts/psychs. I'll probably take the last of my 5 mapb watching those movies over the weekend.
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Awesome! Let me know if you liked any of them, or which was your favorite. I would watch A Serbian Film or Visions of Suffering first and save "where the dead go to die" for last. Or watch that on a different day. Watching all 3 back to back to back would be insane! But of course it's up to you. I just think that "where the dead go to die" has more of a depressing vibe than the other 2 movies, which are more upbeat (lol can't believe I'm saying that, but it's true...the music in the other 2 movies is more for rolling and upbeat, I think A serbian film is the best one to start with to get the ball rolling. The first hour moves a bit slow but is still interesting. All the crazy shit starts about 45 mins into the movie

ps- if you like visions of suffering, the same guy who directed that movie also did another one called NAILS which is actually the first installment. It wasn't as good as VOS though, but if you like it, I'll send you a link for NAILS as well. Both movies were a 2 part set to the "Hallucinogenic" series, or something like that. I forget exactly what it was called
 
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