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Anyone here heard of or been to Delancey Street rehab?

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I am curious about this rehab in San Francisco called Delancey Street, and it is supposedly the toughest program in America.

It's a 2 year minimum program though most people stay longer, they completely break down your personality and your spirit and try to build it up, etc.

Has anyone here heard of it or been there?
 
Yes, I am in Sf and know of it. It depends if it's a match for you, maybe schedule a visit, check it out first. It's very peer support based ...therapeutic community style, but kinda hard core. At least it used to be. I think it does fit some personality types more than others. It is near the bay which is nice.
They do have vocational training available which is a plus. It might be comparable to a Walden House synanon style of treatment which is outdated somewhat but is changing. They practice behavior modification first and foremost …

NSA has a good point too… !
 
Smoky said:
They do have vocational training available which is a plus.
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I'd hope so, if you don't have anything more tangible than sobriety (as top of the tree important as that may be) added to your personal armourey of life skills after two years I'd suggest it's probably not the best use of two years.
 
ArtVandalay said:
I dig your Dopethrone pic, and Sun 0))) reference. Doom metal
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Yeah buddy keep it sludgy. Hey that conveniently rhymes.

By the way, I am not planning on going myself to Delancey, I just completed a 3 month program. I was asking because my friends brother is in jail (on parole from state prison) and is trying to ask for a joint suspension for a new charge pending he complete a residential treatment. Apparently he is thinking about going to Delancey Street
 
I'd advise against it, but that's just me. I read someone mentioned Synanon-style. I don't agree with the forced communion alternative society imposed. It would be trading one prison for another. This is a last resort kind of program, as far as I'm concerned. For other people, this might be right up their alleys.
 
Just searched about what synanon is, stopped reading when I got this far:

Synanon began as a two-year residential program, but Dederich soon concluded that its members could never graduate, because a full recovery was impossible. The Synanon organization also developed a business that sold promotional items. This became a successful enterprise that for a time generated roughly $10 million per year.
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Fuck that. Church of syanon? ....no you've lost me, get back to the stuff about recovering from drug addiction please I'm not interesterd in your weird cult.


That said I stand by the right of people to live that way if they want to, they're fucking nuts but I fully support people's right to do that shit. I think they're beaing taken advantage of at a very vulnerable time but who am I to judge.
 
Therapeutic Communities (TCs) are very tough due to their strict structure, highly confrontational, peer based support.

The ones that I have experience with are for those clients that have been assessed as "non-treatment resistant" by the prison system. Therapeutic communities are also used as a transitional step-down process (typically from prison to TC. TC to halfway house. Halfway house to independent living).

Success rate is rather solid due to the length of treatment combined with the fact that a client has too much to lose if they do not invest in their treatment (aka serving the rest of their sentence in prison due to violating TC rules). I know many graduates who are extremely grateful for their time spent in such an environment.

TCs are attractive to those who aren't opposed to being required to invest in themselves and who have not acquired an institutionalized mentality.

I have no experience with Synanon so I need to refrain from judgement of them.
 
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