I have noted how fast you run from any moral discussion. You know the theology you follow is quite corrupt.
Shall we argue your morals and the double standard you must have to forgive your God for what you would condemn a man for doing?
Regards
DL
Hmm, I think you've misfired a bit GB. Xorkoth is really not a follower of any religion that I know of; he's made his own

I think you should be cautious not to fall into the trap that some religious types do, that of tarring all who dispute with the same brush. I agree with much of your opinion on the immorality of Christianity, but I take it further by claiming that morality itself is a complete façade, in much the same way that a postulated deity is also absurd. You should be aware that opposition or criticism of your beliefs does not indicate corruption or immorality. Its just a disagreement.
FWIW, if the Christian god revealed itself as divine and having all the attributes heretofore only claimed by unequivocally appearing in full heavenly splendour, I would certainly agree that it exists but I would never worship such a deity, ever. I would still only 'worship' the inner god, the one inside all of us

At least that particular god hasn't promoted the burning of billions of innocents as reward for a mistake only the creator could have made.
All religious extremism is equally repugnant to me, even the religions I like....
Was that directed at me? I don't even believe in god in the way that causes people to capitalize it. I believe "god" is the universe and that we are all the universe, experiencing itself subjectively in infinite unique iterations. I was simply making an observation. I have no problems with your beliefs, I just note that you seem pretty hostile towards individual posters on here oftentimes and I was wondering why that's necessary.
Note that there is a chance that GB is actually some sort of gnostic spambot, because the same topics have been appearing online for about 3 years, often signed by DL. It makes me question the credibility of his posts, because surely true gnosis is thinking for oneself.
That is based on assumption, however, morality, if not objective, does not exist; and that is not assumption based.
I'm not sure I follow you here. My point is quite simple, and of course, it is based on several assumptions, but REASONED assumptions (as if that makes a difference :D). I don't think there is a god. So when someone says that morality comes from god, I take that to mean that morality, as an ethical system that exists external to humanity, also does not exist. Is is that fearsome to think that good and evil are inventions of the human mind? Does that not testify to the breadth and depth of our imaginations and true potential, that we can imagine fully-formed, all-purpose ethical systems without requiring someone else to tell us this is so? Before life existed on earth, was there good and evil? How did it manifest? How can evil exist without self-aware intent? Or can a tree commit evil? Did not self-awareness and intent (as we know it) come into existence with humans 200,000 years ago? Where has god and its morals been for the eternity before that? Did god impose morality on plants, bacteria, single celled organisms? If so, why? If not, why?
I hope you are aware that I am not attacking you at all Richard, I feel pleased to read your posts here because they are genuine and heartfelt and you do not cave

I admire that, truly. I just cannot agree that god, good, evil, anything has existence beyond the walls of my skull. And that is liberating to me.
I choose my destiny.
