I think percocet just turned it's back on me :(

[Nikibeamer]

I think I hit the no more euphoria point with my percocet use... I'm prescribed 2-7.5/325 per day which has worked great for the past 6 months but suddenly I only get a good high for about 1hour max then I'm super irritable! I've been using for the focus and stimulation it gives me but the euphoria was great plus!!!

I know I've probably built tolerance by now but I swear it just literarily happened over night and not sure why it's suddenly making me irritable??? Any insight as to why this just started happening ? I try to take days off here and there, I use grapefruit juice and have tried taking one then the other one an hour later.

My questions are:

should i I just take both at the same time instead of spacing them apart?

do I just need to raise my dose? I know 15 mg is not much but I do not want to get to the nod off dose as I use this drug for stimulation.

why is it suddenly after years of off/on use causing me to get irritable???? It was pure bliss every time for the past 6 months.

any tips for dosing, breaks from use or potency options like ?

Do ssri interfere with opiods? Such as lexapro?

Im sure it's just tolerance

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Do you legitimately need the percocets?

Opiate irritability is pretty common; drugs sometime just slightly change how they affect you

 

[laCster]

opiate abuse is a terrible cycle to begin. if you begin to abuse your opiates, you will start running out early, and might experience WD symptoms when you do. once opiates have worked their spell on you, it is almost like their charm is impossible to break. being addicted to opiates FUCKING BLOWS! if you start using opiates for purely recreational effects, you may end up doing heroin and you may overdose.

if you are still in pain, definitely talk to your doctor about some options such as increasing your dose or switching to different medication. if you get adequate pain relief and are just looking for that high, then i wouldnt take more. i wish i could go back in time and never ever ever touch opiates.

 

[JohnJohnsonthe3rd]

I'm confused, you say you are prescribed, but you are asking if you should just raise your dose. Does your doctor just give you whatever you want? You also say you are just using them for stimulation and focus, is this what your doctor prescribed them for? I can't imagine any doctor would do that. To answer your question, yes, you have developed a tolerance to the drug and the irritability you are experiencing is a mild withdrawal symptom. If you legitimately needed them for pain, yes, the doctor would need to raise your dose by a small amount to account for your tolerance, but since you don't seem to need them for pain, I would suggest that you stop taking them now. I do not ever want to sound like your parent or like I'm preaching to you, but I don't think you know what you are getting yourself into. It sounds like you are very casually taking 15mg of oxycodone without a really good reason. They aren't for pain and you aren't experiencing euphoria, so maybe stop taking them every day, it is a dangerous road to go down. You are at the point right now where if you stop your withdrawal symptoms will be more mild. If you take them every day for too much longer, your withdrawal can be a complete living hell, trust me you do not want to experience that. Unless you truly need the oxycodone for extreme pain, stop taking them daily, you will thank me I promise.

 

[donetherebeenthat]

+1 to both of the previous posters. I wish I never touched an opiate in my life and my cycle of misery started 40 years ago with a couple of perks a day that I honestly could have gotten by without. Leave before the the door closes and locks you in.

 

[downerhead]

To the OP: Yeah,it sounds like it's just a tolerance thing.The percs have stopped giving you the euphoria you used to get from them,which probably accounts for the irritability thing.As others have said,if you don't really need them for their intended use,ie.pain,then it would probablt be a good idea to stop taking them because opiate withdrawls are a living hell and there are other medications that will give you energy and focus such as Ritalin,Adderall(sp?),Vyvanse,Dexadrine etc....However,I know people are going to do what they want to do,With that in mind,I would probably see if your doctor would raise your dose to Percocet 10/325s.That extra 2.5mg may not sound like much but trust me,it makes quite a noticable difference with oxycodone.At least it does for me.I have legitimate chronic pain issues and I'm RXd Percocet 10/325s.When I was younger,after my injury and surgery I was scripted Tylox,which is essentially the same as your 7.5 percs just with more APAP.I found them to be not very effective(I had a very painful,invasive surgery and had to go through a lot of painful physical therepy so that I could walk as close to normally as possible).When I was switched to Percocet 10mgs it was a significant difference that I felt immediately.When I moved to a new state a few months ago it was hard to find any doctor willing to write for pain meds due to it being a rural area with no street drugs except for crystal meth (which I hate)and pot(which I just don't really like unless I'm drunk).I had to suffer with the woefully inadequate Norco 10/325s before finally just recently being swithched to Percocet 10/325s and wow,what a differenceIf your doctor is willing to write for perc 7.5s I bet he/she wouldn't have much of a problem writing for perc 10s.I would even try and get another pill or two a day if you are dead set on using opiates for a purpose other than their intended use.All you would have to say is that you are having a good deal of increased pain during the afternoon and later in the evening as your morning and evening doses wear off.I'm in no way condoning or suggesting the use of prescription pain meds if you don't need them as it's this sort of thing that makes it harder for someone like me,who actually needs them,to get anything effective.However,I'm realistic enough to realize that people are generally going to do what they want regardless of what others think is right or wrong.I personally have nothing against a medicinal crutch if it helps you get through life and be happy.Seeing as how most of us on here are either addicts,recovering addicts or recreational drug users I don't think it's my or anyone else's place to judge you.You know they are really addictive and if you choose to go down this path then it's totally on you and your decision to make.I would still suggest a stimulant of some kind rather than an opiate if all you are looking for is energy and focus.Those would also give you a mood lift,assuming you don't suffer from anxiety.But those also come with their own set of baggage.In the end,it's your call to make.

 

[Bliss26]

You were lucky to get six months of bliss.
Sorry to say, but it's all downhill from here. Tolerance to the lower doses takes longer, and once you need to increase your dose, you're going to need increasing at sooner intervals etc. Unless you are in such severe pain that the pain is consuming your every thought, I would wean off before raising my dose.
- signed, someone who also started at 2 perc's a day

 

[VitamaN]

There are a lot of us on here who wouldnt even get high if we CWE'd your entire prescription . Quit while you're ahead .

 

[downerhead]

Amen to that VitamaN!!!!

 

[crestfallen]

This is the first sign that you need to layoff them for awhile. With every drug I've done, from kratom to adderall to hydrocodone, once the good effects start to wane and the negatives are more pronounced, that's time for a break. I've ignored it and just raised my dose only to get more negatives that really outweigh the positives of using. It's an easy road to spiral down. This is the turning point, If you're smart, you will heed this advice mate

 

[chillnerd]

Opiates are known to make the user on edge; aggressive. When swim gof percs from his dentist they were strong at first than as the days went by swim built a tolerence fairly quick. Swim had to take two at once. Eventually felt no high at all. Percs are good if you really take em as needed. If you are looking for a stronger punch, swim prefers blue roxys 30s. Instant release just like percs.

 

[edgewise1]

Chillnerd, just fyi, the SWIM acronym is not allowed at Bluelight. It really doesn't help you anyway. Plus you got a legal script. So you don't even need to try to hide your identity and its not going to help as we all know it is you.

OP, can only add that you need to stop now because your tolerance is only going to go up, and probably faster. I always thought I could quit any time I wanted to......until I tried. It was then I realized I was addicted. Ended up ruining my marriage of 25 years. So yeah, now is the time to quit.

 

[Rybee]

There are a lot of us on here who wouldnt even get high if we CWE'd your entire prescription. Quit while you're ahead.

Whilst there is always a lot of dick sizing/bragging that occurs on BL regarding opiate abuse... VitamaN's post must certainly not be confused for that. Whilst his post may come across as a half-hearted joke. It absolutely isn't. It's a post that evidences the disgustingly scary truth behind the slippery slope of opiate abuse... or what you think of as to only be 'use'.

I don't mean to patronise you Nikibeamer, really, I don't. But just like the rest of us on bluelight, it's probable that you're also a fairly well educated, reasonable, rationale and kind person, who goes about their day with good intentions. But please, just take another 2 minutes to re-read, and mentally digest, the advice that you've been in this thread so far. The advice is from people who have been in your exact same position at some point in their own life before....

opiate abuse is a terrible cycle to begin

once opiates have worked their spell on you, it is almost like their charm is impossible to break.

being addicted to opiates FUCKING BLOWS!.

i wish i could go back in time and never ever ever touch opiates.

I would suggest that you stop taking them now.

it is a dangerous road to go down.

If you take them every day for too much longer, your withdrawal can be a complete living hell, trust me you do not want to experience that.

I wish I never touched an opiate in my life and my cycle of misery started 40 years ago with a couple of percs a day that I honestly could have gotten by without.

Leave before the the door closes and locks you in.

stop taking them because opiate withdrawls are a living hell

You know they are really addictive and if you choose to go down this path then it's totally on you.

Sorry to say, but it's all downhill from here.

Due to tolerance, once you need to increase your dose, you're going to need increasing at sooner intervals

This is the first sign that you need to layoff them for awhile.

you need to stop now because your tolerance is only going to go up, and probably faster.

I always thought I could quit any time I wanted to... until I tried. It was then I realized I was addicted. Ended up ruining my marriage of 25 years.

now is the time to quit.

Being one myself, and knowing many others around me, I'm fully aware of the cognitive thought process of addicts. So with regards to the above quotes you're probably thinking 'yeah yeah I get all that. But that won't happen to me, it wont escalate that far, I can control myself'. Well... despite reading similar quotes from BL and opiate users time after time, I thought the exact same thing. Just 2 years ago. Like you, I started off small. Mucking about in the kitchen, doing cold water extractions on over the counter Codeine & Dihydrocodeine products. Just like every other user/abuser I soon got tolerant so I started faking migraines to my doctor so that I could obtain stronger products from my doc. It lead to constant the prescribing of pure (no APAP) 30mg Codeine Phosphate and Dihydrocodeine tablets. Then I turned to illegally sourcing them online, because my tolerance continued to develop and I was going through my scripts quicker than they could be refilled.

After reading more about them, Tramadol sounded like quite a fun opiate to start abusing - with very different effects on both mind and body. Determined to try it out after having researched its effects and uses I went back to my doctor to try and score some. And I promise, to this very day, I still remember exactly what I said to him:

"I'm still in so much pain, that Dihydrocodeine just doesn't seem to work and in higher doses it makes me feel very sick and often vomit. I really want to get this pain under control so I signed up to an online forum for migraine suffers. A lot of other migraine suffers said about how something called Tromodol can be much more effective in the treatment for migraines because of the way it works on Sellatonin, and apparently it doesn't have as much of the stuff in it that causes me to feel sick and vomit like Dihydrocodeine does" - obviously referring to its lower activity on opium receptors and deliberately mispronouncing Serotonin and Tramadol to make me look naive and not know what I was after.

When my tolerance had peaked I started abusing Morphine, then Tapentadol, then Fentanyl and Oxycodone - and the rest is history. As is the last 2 years of my life.

And as Bliss26 points out, neither you or me are the only ones to innocently fall into this trap of progression.

Unless you are in such severe pain that the pain is consuming your every thought, I would wean off immediately.
- Signed, someone who also started at 2 perc's a day

And I'll leave you with crestfallen's advice...

It's an easy road to spiral down. This is the turning point, If you're smart, you will heed this advice mate

 

[lman_15]

Get out while you can, what I would give to be in your position and be able to kick only 6 months in with that low of a tolerance. . trust me now is the time when you can actually save yourself the misery that so many of us have already experienced

 

[mew4]

sounds like the beginning of every opiate addiction story i ever heard... started usin a perc at a time, then needed more, and more to get the same effect. then the pills wont be enough and ull end up tryin dope. same old

 

[The Doc.]

Ask your doctor to switch you to percocet 5mg taken 3-4 times daily. The problem is your now dependant and going into withdrawal between doses. Percocet is very short acting its duration is only 4-6 hours at best so taking it twice a day will leave lots of time where your plasma levels are real low making you irritable. This or quit because tolerance will keep going up. But I do know people actually in pain can use these drugs as prescribed with some control but if you don't need them in suggest you get off. But I'm not going to lecture you like so many on here because its pointless your not going to listen because everyone believes they are different and won't end up in a bad place.

 

[rickyspanishhh]

The same thing happened to me when I tried and started taking Vicodin (which was the first opiate I ever tried) when I was a "noob" to the opiates with no tolerance or any drug for that matter, for a little while I could take one pill and feel the most euphoric rush almost like MDMA & H combined, NOTHING could anger me.

I wasn't a everyday user just here and there but after awhile the high would last only about 1hr still the same great effects but when I came down I got very irritable, agitated and very unsympathetic to others. I mean everything made me mad even the most miniscule thing would set me off and constantly heard the "omg calm down whats wrong with you? why are you getting so mad at nothing." Vicodin eventually wasn't all that great anymore and couldn't obtain any. So at that point I started realizing what was happening. Then I came across a script of 4mg dilaudids (no idea of how dangerous for someone inexperienced or what they were) took two or three orally a few times I liked them because they gave me that same great euphoric feeling as vicodin without the irritable comedown, but then heard snorting them was better I snorted 2 and a half and was puking everywhere but felt great afterwards.

Ever since that episode with the dilaudids my opiate tolerance went up and the next time after that I tried to take one vicodin it didn't work so it went to taking 2, then very quickly moved to 4 for a good buzz or 5 for an actual high this happened in matter of a few months, mind you I was a casual user. So you could only imagine how quickly an everyday users tolerance builds. Once you started building that tolerance it changes your high to the point you don't even get high or feel good anymore. As with most drugs the first few times is the best.

As far as nodding if you have a tolerance, nodding out won't be an issue unless you take more than your tolerance requires. It will be the same just more. But yeah the euphoria and warm fuzzy feeling that has made millions addicted goes away after awhile then it all becomes a matter of just trying to feel normal...no fun at all.

 

[oXyboss14]

Yeah well 7.5 ain't NOTHING. ATLEAST TRY 20MG.. I MEAN MOST TOLERANT PPL DO 50-70 80