Am i suitable for shrooms?

[henlik]

I know there are a lot of these kinds of threads and i know you can't tell for sure if i'm suitable for the drug.

Anyways, i've been wanting to try shrooms((Psilocybe semilanceata) for some time and have the chance to trip this weekend. I think i've read enough to have a fairly good amount of knowledge on the topic. However, i wanted to describe my personality to better paint a picture of myself so you could put me in the right direction, weather taking this drug or not.

I am a 21 year old student. Currently having a lack of motivation in life and feel like i can't perform well in school because of my chronic sleeping disorder. As a person i can behave a little insecure when around new people, and because of a partially challenging childhood and previous violent party-encounters years back i have started to become more and more evasive. I've been anxious ever since i was a child, but only because of my low self asteem, which also causes me to have mood swings/unstable mood. I'm a very humble, open and empathic guy. I'm fine with my looks and am generally averagely built with varying exercise routines. I'm easily insulted.

I've been smoking weed almost daily with weekly breaks here and there for a couple of months. There is also one month since i tried MDMA, which was great but not "mind opening". There are no serious mental illnesses in my family, but i've sort of been naturally anxious all my life.

Luckily i've found a couple of friends with the same humour, so i can goof around and totally be myself. These are the people i am planning to take my shrooms with.

So i feel like i'm functioning "ok" if you know what i mean. Does this help you understand weather shrooms will be helpful or harmful in my case? I was thinking of starting of with a small dose.

 

[Xorkoth]

As you said, it's hard to say for sure. However I am glad to hear that your potential tripping buddies are people you feel comfortable with, because that is extremely important when tripping (especially at first). Starting with a small dose is a good idea, I recommend 1.5-2 grams. If you do well with that, you can always take more the next time. I recommend sticking to your original dose if you decide to do it, not adding more, reason being that the trip will take time to fully develop and redosing isn't very effective anyway.

As for your issues, they are the kind of issues that psychedelics can really help with, but they're also the kind of issues that can be triggered from psychedelics. My guess is you will be fine and have a good time, but remember that if things get difficult, that's not a bad thing, think of it as an opportunity to learn something about yourself. Sometimes the most difficult trips can turn out to be the most rewarding. Also remember that the come-up is the most difficult part of trips and is the most likely to cause anxiety. If you can ride that anxiety out until you reach the peak, it should dissipate, but if you succumb to it and panic, it can remain for the whole trip.

Smoking on psychedelics can sometimes increase anxiety, and sometimes it can help smooth out the remnants of the come-up and launch you into a comfortable peak.

Good luck with whatever you decide. A group of 3 (including yourself), composed of people you trust and enjoy being with, is the perfect group size for early/first psychedelic experiences. More than that and the social dynamics can get difficult.

 

[henlik]

I know it probably can't directly compare, but on my MDMA come-up i felt a weird, tingly, uncomforting anxiety for maby a minute or two. This was on about 120mg of good mdma, great experience but not mindblowing(think i should've taken more). Will the come-up on shrooms behave the same way and launch the same set of "something is different"-feelings? 1,5 to 2 grams? I was more thinking 0,75-1gram, to be careful. If this amount turns out to be too low, how long should i wait before ingesting more? Days? Months?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Mushie come-ups can be harsh (cold-hot flashes, inexplicable nervous energy and anxiety, concern over one's future), but the latter half when you start to peak is always magical for me. I would try two grams first, one is generally undershooting any real effects IME; however, if you're nervous about it, one gram will still give you a good taste of psychedelia without overwhelming you too much. With psychs, always remember that it's just a drug, and the effects will pass, even if your concept of time has been obliterated hah.

I'm somewhat similar to your description of yourself, and mushies (really LSD, but mushies are still pretty powerful) have helped me in a great many ways.My best advice on fixing motivation though would be a long-term pot break. Cannabis is my love, and my worst enemy hahah. I can sit and do nothing for days...

 

[Xorkoth]

1 gram of mushrooms should be pretty weak, but definitely active, it would give you a good feel for mushrooms but higher doses are very unlike lower doses, the type of experience and intensity is totally different. Always best to err on the side of caution.

And wait at least a week between trips. If you take a low-dose one and it doesn't give you a lot, a week is totally fine to take a higher dose, but once you have a powerful trip that gives you a lot of material to work with, a longer break is recommended, a month or more is ideal because you need time to integrate the trip when it blows your mind.

 

[henlik]

Thanks for the replies guys, even more input is also welcome

 

[Si Dread]

Thanks for the replies guys, even more input is also welcome

Here's some. I've tried dozens of different psychedelic drugs, numerous MDMA type drugs, 100's of MDMA trips. I've tried at least 6 or 7 different types of shrooms, & the best trips, the lightest, funniest, brightest, most brilliantly funny, beautiful & inspiring shroom trips have been on Semilanceata's, & British Cyanescens. Go in with an open mind, look forward to having a bloody good laugh & you're solid as fuck on these things.

As it's your first time I wouldn't advise more than 10 or 15 shrooms fresh, no more than 1.5 grams dried... but you could add some as soon as it peaks, if you're enjoying it. You can't really keep redosing on shrooms, but if you took 10 & you were quite enjoying it, another 10 straight away would increase the hit for a little while.

Make certain that you & your buddies are in a safe, comfortable enviroment, & ensure someone is sober enough to intervene if anyone has a freaker.

Provided you are all set in the head, no worries, no fears, provided your mates are smart & funny & provided your enviroment is safe from intrusion by parents or idiots, you're in for a cracking time. Enjoy!

 

[jason7]

As it's your first time I wouldn't advise more than 10 or 15 shrooms fresh, no more than 1.5 grams dried... but you could add some as soon as it peaks, if you're enjoying it. You can't really keep redosing on shrooms, but if you took 10 & you were quite enjoying it, another 10 straight away would increase the hit for a little while.

This is Liberty Caps he's talking about, not Cubensis. A gram is like 50 mushrooms or so. You can hardly even feel 10-15 mushrooms. Best to go by weight with these. One gram will probably be enough for a first time test trip.

 

[henlik]

Our plan is to bring a backpack during the day with something to eat/drink up in the woods. I live in a fjord in Norway with my town placed by the foot of the mountain(s). We can walk like 500m up in the woods and still get a hell of a view. The weather forecast is looking bright, i hope we're in for a treat. I've read that music can be interesting so i'm going to bring some Pink Floyd plus some electronica and blues. Does to music sound more amazing on shrooms or MDMA? Would playing guitar be more enjoyable, and should i bring this outside? What kinds of music sounds good? Whatever you generally liked from before?

Also, how is it to go through public? Should i bring sunglasses? Its mostly passing a few people walking on the street until we get home.

 

[bunnyhentman]

Does to music sound more amazing on shrooms or MDMA? Would playing guitar be more enjoyable, and should i bring this outside? What kinds of music sounds good? Whatever you generally liked from before?

Also, how is it to go through public? Should i bring sunglasses? Its mostly passing a few people walking on the street until we get home.

Music sounds amazing on both mdma and shrooms. Playing guitar might be enjoyable, or might be confusing. If you like to play guitar, bring it with you if you want but don't feel like you have to do it. Any music you like sounds good, but if you are going to be out in nature the sounds in your environment might be the most beautiful to you. I've had ammmaaazing times listening to frogs sing while I'm on mushrooms.

If you are new to psilocybin, going out in public can be a little weird, especially if you have to interact (buying things used to be hard for me, money lost its meaning which made it hard to count). Just remind yourself that unless you live in Amsterdam, no one will suspect you took shrooms (or any psychedelic drug).

If you are acting weird, most people will assume you are drunk. Just remind yourself not to do or say anything if you're not sure you can keep it together. And if things are weird, well they should be weird because you are on shrooms! Tripping in public gets easier the more experienced you are. As a new shroomer, it's good to explore but safer if you stay within walking distance of home (unless you have a sober driver). Since you are with good friends, I think it's fine!

 

[Si Dread]

This is Liberty Caps he's talking about, not Cubensis. A gram is like 50 mushrooms or so. You can hardly even feel 10-15 mushrooms. Best to go by weight with these. One gram will probably be enough for a first time test trip.

I can trip on 5 fresh Semilanceatas if they're big ones! Until this fella has his doses worked out, I suggest starting low. It is nontheless best to go by weight, agreed.

 

[jason7]

I can trip on 5 fresh Semilanceatas if they're big ones! Until this fella has his doses worked out, I suggest starting low. It is nontheless best to go by weight, agreed.

Yeah they vary a lot in size. I guess it depends on the fertility of the soil. I've found giant ones on grass that was sodded. I don't know where the sods came from but the shrooms were super-sized. There would be one house in a neighborhood with the lawn completely covered in nice big Liberty Caps and the rest with none. They were like an inch-inch and a half across, stalks probably 6 inches high. You could fill a paper bag pretty fast. You just had to hit the patch at night so nobody would catch you.

 

[henlik]

Whats the best tricks to avoid a bad trip? The trip is obviously going to take place in a bright setting but what should i do if i start to get bad vibes somehow? Should we get up and walk to another location in the forest or should i just try to talk it out with my friend? He's generally a positive guy so that should do it. Any positive thinking patterns to recommend and might meditation work? Haven't given it much attention, would this be worth looking into before the trip?

 

[sekio]

The best trick to avoid bad trips: don't worry about having a bad trip, focus instead on having a good time.

 

[rpm]

The best trick to avoid bad trips: don't worry about having a bad trip, focus instead on having a good time.

So true. I often find that having stuff to do, things to look at keeps the trip outwardly focussed and not to introspective. Look at the trees, look at the animals, have a laugh with friends.

However, sometimes something will come up and you might end up feeling bad vibes. In this situation I'd say it's best not to fight it. Remember you arn't going to die. Any worries or problems will seem much less problematic when you come down. If you feel sad, allow yourself to feel sad, fighting the feeling is often what leads to anxiety and spiralling bad thoughts. Mediation or deep breathing can help if this happens.

But yeah, don't expect anything bad to happen, but remember that if it does, it's probably not going to be as bad as it seems.