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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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Ismene said:
No acid in 30 years phuck? What have you been playing at?! :)
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I was out of the loop for a looong time...playing at being a speed freak smack-head.
Just got back into psychs in the last two years while doing "research" into a cluster head ache remedy for a friend.
Scoring any psychedelics in Podunk Oklahoma is pretty much useless.
 
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phuck, Podunk is the perfect word for Oklahoma. only good psychs I can ever get here are mushrooms. I've been enjoying AL-LAD at 150-300ug doses. very pleasant trips.
 
perpetualdawn said:
I need to test it out more but I wouldn't say it was sedating for me. More mellow and less stimulating than LSD tho. I found it to be a very nice energy level, Goldilocks zone: not too much not too little.
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It isn't usually for me too. But this time it felt like AL-LAD + a strong hypnotic.
 
AL-LAD was a little sedating for me too. i boosted the experience with 5-meo-dipt which was fucking insane, don't suggest it, but wow. AL-LAD had a strange edge to it - i think because it comes in a blotter you expect some kind of LSD type journey but it's actually quite a lot different in a lot of ways. LSD really plays tricks with your mind in my experience, while AL-LAD kind of allows you stop yourself getting into the perpetual LSD mind fuck because it's more of a controllable drug. it wasn't as fun either, there didn't seem to be as much hysterical laughter associated to the experiences i had with it... and it lacked in the audial distortion part hugely which for me plays an enormous part in a trip for me. the max i dosed was 450mcg on its own and i used ketamine along side it to boost myself into a whole new dimension of fuckery, AL-LAD is just quite a fun drug in my experience, there's the chance for introspection if you allow yourself to go there, but it's quite a different trip to LSD.

the best way i can explain AL-LAD is LSD with elements removed that actually make LSD so interesting. AL-LAD was a little boring imo, it was a fun experience and we were all definitely having a good time, but there were parts of it that just didn't add up. ah well.
 
It's only controllable at a low dose synthetix - try two blotters and it will tear you a new bunghole. It did me anyway - I was running down the middle of the road with my underpants on my head with a police car in hot pursuit.
 
Literal. Naked save for one sock. And the underpants on my head obviously.

Only kidding, but I found 300mics vastly more powerful than one. 300 was very uncomfortable.
 
Ismene said:
It's only controllable at a low dose synthetix - try two blotters and it will tear you a new bunghole. It did me anyway - I was running down the middle of the road with my underpants on my head with a police car in hot pursuit.
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christ that sounds like fucking hilarity

like i wish i had of witnessed this spectacle it would have been miraculous

i did 5 blotters max at once i think.... never came to that, maybe my brain just doesn't comprehend running down the street naked i don't know
 
yeah i never had the feeling of losing it on this stuff, the only stuff i really felt like losing it completely was 4-ho-met, al-lad is a pretty enjoyable compound frankly, its like a cleaner LSD almost, its really hard to describe if I'm honest.... like you can get yourself into a sort of downwards spiral but you manage to get yourself out of it, but even then i don't know.... like with all psychedelics frankly start with one blotter don't jump in the deep end, because i suppose it could induce some kind of freaky behaviour

in fact now that I'm remembering it a little better a friend of mine who had taken one blotter was saying it was getting a little bit too intense for him at points (we were inside a rock and roll type nightclub thing) and i could see he was on the verge of kind of breaking so.... like with all psychedelics don't be an idjet like me
 
I finally got a chance to try some AL-LAD. Yesterday my friend M and I went to a local campground and each took one 150ug blotter. The onset was extremely slow for each of us, taking about an hour and a half to kick in. This wasn't too surprising, as both LSZ and LSD have taken this long to hit me lately.

I found the character of the trip interesting. It wasn't quite as "giddy" or euphoric as I had somewhat expected based on a lot of reports. It felt similar to LSZ, but with less of a strong body sensation and more of a cerebral aspect. I would compare the differences between the two as similar to the difference between indica and sativa cannabis.

As everyone else has stated, it is certainly more visually impressive than LSZ. Even at only 150ug there was distinct patterning on the ground.

Bodyload was nonexistent. Also, I didn't find it to be in any way stimulating or sedating. In this aspect it was completely neutral, I felt like I could easily go for a hike or just sit on a couch.

Music enhancement was absolutely present, though I have yet to sample a psychedelic that doesn't have this feature. We spent some time listening to Tool, an excellent choice for the trip.

The trip really kicked off at about 5:30 or 6:00 and our peak ended around ten, with probably another 3 hours of residual effects after that.

All in all we both liked it quite a bit and will be trying it again within the next couple of weeks. I think we'll push the dosage up to 300ug next time.
 
Thanks for the report acidtest. It's really interesting to hear you compare with LSZ because I know you have a bit of experience with that one. I would love to hear more of your thoughts comparing the two.

I agree about AL-LAD being very neutral regarding stimulation. I also agree that it enhances music, but it didn't seem to be as strong in that department as some other psychedelics, in particular LSD. Could simply be the product of suggestion, and a small sample size (my single AL-LAD trip) though.

It really seems to me like "acid-lite", or like the most neutral/clean version of acid imaginable.
 
I definitely agree that it doesn't enhance music to the same degree as LSD. For me, nothing does to that degree, not even psilocybin mushrooms.

One thing I noticed is that I think AL-LAD is probably less likely to induce anxiety than LSZ. On LSZ there were a few moments of having to calm down and reduce the anxiety level, this wasn't really an issue with AL-LAD.

The come up was also more pleasant than LSZ, which is saying quite a bit since I don't find the onset of LSZ to be very difficult at all. But AL-LAD had such a smooth come up it was almost easy to forget that you took something, until suddenly you just notice that you're tripping at a quite comfortable level.

One interesting side note: I experienced no time dilation during this trip. Normally time dilation occurs to at least some degree during every LSD or LSZ trip for me. This could have just been a peculiarity of this particular trip.

I look forward to trying this again and think that 300ug will make for a very interesting experience. I also plan on mixing it with LSZ sometime in the future, as I feel that 150ug of each would complement each other nicely.
 
Ismene said:
Literal. Naked save for one sock. And the underpants on my head obviously.

Only kidding, but I found 300mics vastly more powerful than one. 300 was very uncomfortable.
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Hmmmm. Maybe 75 would be OK for me. Ooooor maybe I should just not bother, I felt so "off" that I made an appointment with a therapist afterward
 
synthetix said:
yeah i never had the feeling of losing it on this stuff, the only stuff i really felt like losing it completely was 4-ho-met, al-lad is a pretty enjoyable compound frankly, its like a cleaner LSD almost, its really hard to describe if I'm honest.... like you can get yourself into a sort of downwards spiral but you manage to get yourself out of it, but even then i don't know.... like with all psychedelics frankly start with one blotter don't jump in the deep end, because i suppose it could induce some kind of freaky behaviour

in fact now that I'm remembering it a little better a friend of mine who had taken one blotter was saying it was getting a little bit too intense for him at points (we were inside a rock and roll type nightclub thing) and i could see he was on the verge of kind of breaking so.... like with all psychedelics don't be an idjet like me
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Synthetix, I was under the impression that 4-ho-met weas very mellow on the mind and that is the reason I wanted to sample some....youre saying that its not ? Damn..

Yeah I had a few close calls with AL....don't be mistaken it is a smooth sail....but Ive experienced turbulence and I read on another forum of someone who was hospitalized after unwittingly stabbing himself in the abdomen after dropping three tabs....unwittingly BC he was that fucked off his head
 
well for me 4-ho-met literally took me to a really dark place at points, but i took 100mg.... i wanted to explore the darkeer side of it, was a lot like shrooms but actually quite dmt like in a way to start and there was no somewhat soever it literally smacked me in the face in the space of 5 minutes... lots of amazing visuals closed eyes were just incredible all together too but there was no escaping the drug... just let yourself go. at times i literally thought about killing myself to end it despite having a lot of benzos at hand etc.... just a lot of weird things happened i think i would have lost it if mean girls wasn't playing and i didn't just let myself go with the flow and be uninterrupted too

AL on the other hand like i said i had a blast but the other two i took with did at times take turns for the darker side of things one started really sweating profusely and we went to the petrol station to buy cigarettes (complete failure but success at the same time) he used the car window scraper to dab away the sweat and was constantly asking for any sort of paper napkins etc to dab up his sweat, also resulted in him quite literally talking to ANYONE he could on the street which could have gotten really ugly if we bumped into the wrong people... though we were fucked on 5-meo-dipt too (foxy) which drove him psychotic at times

btw the al-lad and lsz don't compliment each other, well they do in some way, it adds more to the visual department but it also gets a lot more emotional like i found it hard to restrain myself from crying at moby songs that i somehow really connected to at points... odd and bizarre, led me to saying really strange things too along the lines of "i don't feel emotions normally why am i feeling them now please make them stop please i can't stop crying"
 
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