Regional Pill / MDMA Discussion - not for those who wish to roll balls.

[PlayHard]

Hi! i'm new here. english is not my native language so sorry for the mistakes...

has anyone heard anything about pink grenade? (supposedly glow in UV light)


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Some people talk about +200mg, other about 160mg, other about 180mg.... 8(

thanks.

pretty much all of the grenades have been 140mg-170mg what ive seen test wise anyway

 

[letherman]

Two Blue Ghosts gives me such an intense rush, huge surge of euphoria, an out of control chattering jaw that just feels incredible, empathy, love, body highs, sense of touch, energy, chatty, and just so much more. The Dutch stuff kind of feels like a cheap imitation despite being dosed so highly. It's just so mellow and mongy, no real love or empathy, whereas the other pills I've had make me realise exactly why MDMA warrants the name ecstasy.

I totally agree with you. A lot of people who I know took Yellow Lions said they just think something is not right, but they tested well. Earlier Blue Ghosts were a much more euphoric than the last batch I tried (I still have some from October last year).

I like your description because up until now was "feeling hollow", especially afterwards was the best way I had to describe it, but MDNA Crystal/Powder also does this to me, so maybe its the other way around?

 

[chivers]

Had some chuppa chups over the weekend, long come up to full effect, actually bang on 2 hours but was real nice. Took another half and was flying then around 4am half an audermars. My jaw didn't stop chattering for about 5 hours lol.

 

[letherman]

The chuppa's I had about a month ago were hard coated and broke cleanly (had to bite them) and I put my long comeup to being so hard pressed and taking longer to digest, especially after trying some green xbox's another night - hard coated but crumbled when broke (with hands) and a much quicker comeup (I ended up taking about 1/3 each time one these because of how they broke)....

Or it could've been just the surroundings I was in and the mates with me.

 

[chojek]

I totally agree with you. A lot of people who I know took Yellow Lions said they just think something is not right, but they tested well. Earlier Blue Ghosts were a much more euphoric than the last batch I tried (I still have some from October last year).

I like your description because up until now was "feeling hollow", especially afterwards was the best way I had to describe it, but MDNA Crystal/Powder also does this to me, so maybe its the other way around?

Yeah I thought it might have been because the Ghosts are a year old now that they have lost some of the kick they had last year, not that it's a new batch. This makes sense now. I had the Blue Ghosts last year in Ibiza on my final night, so my tolerance was much higher than what is was when I had them this year, but I got way more euphoria from them last year. Everyone also seemed to think they had speed in them last year because of how intense the rush was. Double dropping them last year was by far the best drug experience I've ever had, and this was with elevated tolerance. To my surprise, the Blud Ghosts felt less intense this year, more like a cleaner lovey-dovey high. They're still the best pill I've had this year, but they were definitely more intense last year.

I also have to add that the comedowns from the Gold Bars left me feeling extremely hollow, and the comedown from the one Blue Superman after an 8 month break was the worst I've ever had, and I even had nightmares/ heard voices in my sleep afterwards.

So from now on, I'm going read further reviews on pills before trying them, as I now firmly believe not all MDMA was created equal.

 

[afctu]

I enjoyed the Gold Bars at Tomorrowland, they were nice but definitely not as good as I thought they would be. Something was missing. Another 5 of my Australian friends who tried the Gold Bars and Dominos shared the same sentiments. We all preferred the Blue Ghosts and other sorts of MDMA that most likely originated from the UK.

I'm also a bit of a novice and the first pill I tried this year after an 8 month break was a Blue Superman and I just couldn't believe how underwhelming it was. A few days later I had just 1 Blue Ghost and it felt like proper ecstasy again.

Now I haven't taken many pills before, but the Pink Love Hearts from Ibiza last year, the Blue Ghosts, the Crystal MDMA from Ibiza, and the White Hearts in Oz from a few years back are the only ones I have taken, and they were all so magical. Two Blue Ghosts gives me such an intense rush, huge surge of euphoria, an out of control chattering jaw that just feels incredible, empathy, love, body highs, sense of touch, energy, chatty, and just so much more. The Dutch stuff kind of feels like a cheap imitation despite being dosed so highly. It's just so mellow and mongy, no real love or empathy, whereas the other pills I've had make me realise exactly why MDMA warrants the name ecstasy.

Well this post has just killed my excitement a little for this weekend. (EDIT: and your post above) Surely MDMA is MDMA and that's that? These Gold bars better be banging...I haven't heard a bad report about them until now.

 

[chojek]

The chuppa's I had about a month ago were hard coated and broke cleanly (had to bite them) and I put my long comeup to being so hard pressed and taking longer to digest, especially after trying some green xbox's another night - hard coated but crumbled when broke (with hands) and a much quicker comeup (I ended up taking about 1/3 each time one these because of how they broke)....

Or it could've been just the surroundings I was in and the mates with me.

I have 2 friends who also reported the same long come up from the Chupa Chups. It took them about 1.5 hours to come up.

Also, how would you rate the quality of the mdma in the Chups Chups vs that of the Ghosts? And is the MD in the Xbox pills any good?

 

[chojek]

Well this post has just killed my excitement a little for this weekend. (EDIT: and your post above) Surely MDMA is MDMA and that's that? These Gold bars better be banging...I haven't heard a bad report about them until now.

Don't worry, you'll still have a ton of fun on them, I know I did. They're good, just not magical. They also taste different to the awesome crystal I had in Ibiza. The crystal in Ibiza left me wanting to throw up, but the Gold Bars were much easier to eat.

 

[afctu]

Don't worry, you'll still have a ton of fun on them, I know I did. They're good, just not magical. They also taste different to the awesome crystal I had in Ibiza. The crystal in Ibiza left me wanting to throw up, but the Gold Bars were much easier to eat.

Ive got some crystal as back up too. Tested it out last week- bombed 150mg and hoofed a line of it during the peak - the drip got me so close to vomiting it was ridiculous. Rank taste. Good stuff though.

Anyway...All of these strong dutch pills have been lab tested as clean MDMA with no other active ingredients. I don't understand how there could be different types of MDMA with differing effects. I'm no expert but MDMA is MDMA as far as im concerned. Maybe the uk pills you talk of have something else added? Or have they all labtested clean aswell? Fuck knows whats going on.

 

[BlueBull]

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That has been a long-standing debate. If we would get into that this thread would reach 50 pages easily I think I've been rolling for close to 10 years and am convinced of the "MDMA is MDMA" notion, but I won't elaborate here

On-topic: I don't think you're going to need a back up when you have gold bars, not at all

 

[chojek]

Ive got some crystal as back up too. Tested it out last week- bombed 150mg and hoofed a line of it during the peak - the drip got me so close to vomiting it was ridiculous. Rank taste. Good stuff though.

Anyway...All of these strong dutch pills have been lab tested as clean MDMA with no other active ingredients. I don't understand how there could be different types of MDMA with differing effects. I'm no expert but MDMA is MDMA as far as im concerned. Maybe the uk pills you talk of have something else added? Or have they all labtested clean aswell? Fuck knows whats going on.

I kind of enjoy the rank taste as I know it's good for me haha.

Yeah the Gold Bars are definitely clean, no worries there, just too mellow for me and some others that I know or spoke to. A full one hits the spot pretty well though. I think most of the pills I've had come back as clean mdma, but there's been a definite difference between all of them. The only time there isn't a difference is when I've taken the same pill multiple times I essentially get the same feeling despite tolerance, so I think there's a definite difference in the quality of mdma.

 

[afctu]

I kind of enjoy the rank taste as I know it's good for me haha.

Yeah the Gold Bars are definitely clean, no worries there, just too mellow for me and some others that I know or spoke to. A full one hits the spot pretty well though. I think most of the pills I've had come back as clean mdma, but there's been a definite difference between all of them. The only time there isn't a difference is when I've taken the same pill multiple times I essentially get the same feeling despite tolerance, so I think there's a definite difference in the quality of mdma.

200mg but mellow? Sounds strange. Ill report back with my findings next week.

 

[letherman]

how would you rate the quality of the mdma in the Chups Chups vs that of the Ghosts? And is the MD in the Xbox pills any good?

I havn't had ghosts recently so can only compare with last years. Ghosts and Chuppas reacted in roughly the same speed during tests, so I'd call them similar strength pill imho but a longer comeup on the chuppas (both taken in halves). The X-box (green) reacted a bit quicker and the comeup was a lot quicker and more intense (even though it was 1/3 of a pill).

All were tested with Marquis, Mandelin, Mecke and Simon's/Buffer, but that was the pills I got!

 

[chojek]

I havn't had ghosts recently so can only compare with last years. Ghosts and Chuppas reacted in roughly the same speed during tests, so I'd call them similar strength pill imho but a longer comeup on the chuppas (both taken in halves). The X-box (green) reacted a bit quicker and the comeup was a lot quicker and more intense (even though it was 1/3 of a pill).

All were tested with Marquis, Mandelin, Mecke and Simon's/Buffer, but that was the pills I got!

Well that settles it, looks line I'll be seeking out X-boxes this September. :D

 

[chojek]

200mg but mellow? Sounds strange. Ill report back with my findings next week.

So did I. A ton of mates and others I know also couldn't believe how mellow they were. I'll be eager to see what you feel.


Day 1: I took 3/5 and then the rest an hour later and it was really mellow. A friend who had mdma for the first time that day just sat on the hill, he didn't move a single muscle. He only had half though. He's only ever done drugs just one time before this, and it was coke for nye. He said the coke was way more intense and rushy. He loved feeling mellow though. Not a single I love you was said by him, no hugs, nothing. Your first time should be the best, I'm actually disappointed for him. Maybe he's just an emotionless prick? I don't know.


Day 2: full one, different group, a lot more intense and fun even though my tolerance must have been through the roof. In fact I really enjoyed it today. I think I need a strong initial dose to catch the wave. However, it still felt like it was lacking something.

I don't know what to make of it all anymore.

 

[BlueBull]

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Remember that the first dose you take determines for the most part how intense your roll is going to be. Added doses after that mostly extend the roll but do not intensify it by a lot. So in taking 3/5 you did about 120mg starting dose and the rest added later on. This caused your roll to be rather mellow I think, not the strength of the pills

Day two I think was lacking because you already did 200mg on day one. Back to back days are almost always a disappointment on the second day, more so if you took a big dose on the first. Just trying to point to some other possible causes for your experience. Every personal experience I had with the gold bars (me and about 15 people in my close circle of friends) and every report on them are absolutely shining, so that got me wondering what could have caused your experience

Indeed eager to hear what afctu has to say after having used them

 

[ColtDan]

I don't know what to make of it all anymore.

Me neither tbh

Did you ever try mephedrone when it was legal?

 

[chojek]

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Remember that the first dose you take determines for the most part how intense your roll is going to be. Added doses after that mostly extend the roll but do not intensify it by a lot. So in taking 3/5 you did about 120mg starting dose and the rest added later on. This caused your roll to be rather mellow I think, not the strength of the pills

Day two I think was lacking because you already did 200mg on day one. Back to back days are almost always a disappointment on the second day, more so if you took a big dose on the first. Just trying to point to some other possible causes for your experience. Every personal experience I had with the gold bars (me and about 15 people in my close circle of friends) and every report on them are absolutely shining, so that got me wondering what could have caused your experience

Indeed eager to hear what afctu has to say after having used them

Yeah I was actually surprised at how much more fun I had on the second day, but obviously the initial dose dictates the roll. Full ones from now on for me, lesson learnt. I preferred the company I was with on the 2nd day as well, which might play a role.

I'll be going to Armin Only in Amsterdam in December, and I'll be taking a 2 month break before this, so I'll be in a better position to test the Dutch stuff then.

 

[chojek]

Me neither tbh

Did you ever try mephedrone when it was legal?

Na I haven't, I think the legal meph days were before I even had my first pill.

 

[oscthebooklad]

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That has been a long-standing debate. If we would get into that this thread would reach 50 pages easily I think I've been rolling for close to 10 years and am convinced of the "MDMA is MDMA" notion, but I won't elaborate here

On-topic: I don't think you're going to need a back up when you have gold bars, not at all

'rolling close to 10 years' means nothing. You have been wrong and delusional for close to 10 years. Saying MDMA is MDMA is like saying petrol is petrol. Different ways of production of fractional distillation results in an entirely different product relative to the stage of extraction. Different petrols suit different engines. Sorry bad analogy maybe but u get the point