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Pmz seriously you need to get off this site. Its almost a year now and you still have the same questions. Get a job. Go out. Be busy. And soon you will forget all this things. The reason you still have that is that your wasting your time and life focusing on this when you know the only cure is to live with it and dont give a damn with how you feel. try that route and i promise you you will be in the same position as i am now. Stop asking how long... Did it go away etc.. Your prolonging your problem with all this. Promise you will feel better and eventually be 100% ok if you start now. We have been in the same boat, same time but see the difference i refused to go your route by questioning all this things 24/7. I continued life its hard in the beginning but its better to experience all the hardship all at once than be on your position now. Its scary everyone knows that but if you pass that fear and realize that all this doesnt really hinder you for having a fullfilling life then that fear will slowly fade and you will be back to your normal self. Its all anxiety trust me been into worst. Anxiety does NOT Stop you for living normally it is how you react to it. I hope next year will be a different story for you. Nyt..

dude, I have so much of a life its awesome. It still does not change how I wake up in the morning some days. It does not work like that I think. I simply cannot forget about all this. Trust me Its not anxiety at all. Im kindo of tired of hearing this shit. Im pretty sure I have no anxiety in my. Like pretty damn sure. My head still feels like a blender too much of the time. Maybe this is the answer for some, but anxiety has nothing on me right now. its the fucking "not sleeping for days" feeling that doesnt like to leave my head. Everything else is fine. Its just that. Way harder to forget about than visual shit, I dont care about visual stuff really. thats just annoying. And yes it is kind of stopping from living normally. Its hard to get into the job I want if my damn head feels like its been through a blender.
 
So for the guys who have recovered and all. How long would you say it took you for your cognitive head to come back to you. No more brain fog, fluid thinking, and just stupid mistakes to go away? about 16 months later, my brain still feels like swiss cheese. Its very annoying.

Did anything help to get rid of that?

Im thinking of going back to school and maybe that will stimulate my head faster.

Pmz seriously you need to get off this site. Its almost a year now and you still have the same questions. Get a job. Go out. Be busy. And soon you will forget all this things. The reason you still have that is that your wasting your time and life focusing on this when you know the only cure is to live with it and dont give a damn with how you feel. try that route and i promise you you will be in the same position as i am now. Stop asking how long... Did it go away etc.. Your prolonging your problem with all this. Promise you will feel better and eventually be 100% ok if you start now. We have been in the same boat, same time but see the difference i refused to go your route by questioning all this things 24/7. I continued life its hard in the beginning but its better to experience all the hardship all at once than be on your position now. Its scary everyone knows that but if you pass that fear and realize that all this doesnt really hinder you for having a fullfilling life then that fear will slowly fade and you will be back to your normal self. Its all anxiety trust me been into worst. Anxiety does NOT Stop you for living normally it is how you react to it. I hope next year will be a different story for you. Nyt..

but you right though, asking questions wont help shit. Regardless, asking or not wont help how I feel in the end of the day. Im living a great life to be honest with you. Im pretty damn happy with it right now. If This went away tomorrow, I would already have everything I need to be happy.
 
I had no idea that my addiction was so unique until I read this form. When I first tried Molly it was a secret. No one I knew would be okay with it, so I went to the club by myself and ended up having the best night in years. The first year of using, I would go to the club to roll and meet new people about 1-2 times a month. I formed this entire secret second life. Then it slowly became worse. I convinced my supplier that I had a few friends that liked it and that's why I would buy more. But it was all for me. I would have people over at my house to enjoy it because it was easier to take with out being paranoid of being caught. By 1 1/2 years I was taking up to 12 pills in a 24 hour period about 3 nights a week. I would also buy a bunch of cocaine to give me that high I couldn't get anymore from the Molly. By the end of the second year (the last two months I used) I was buying 7 gram bags of Molly a week so I could parachute as much as I wanted. I think the embarrassment of having to lie to my own supplier about it not being all for me, was when I started thinking there is something wrong. I started getting paranoid that I would have a heart attack and none of my actual friends would have a clue why. I quit cold turkey 5 months ago. I drove to my dads told him my big secret, gave him my car keys, and told him not to let me leave the house. I didn't trust myself to follow through with quitting. A few days into that I forced him to take my phone and I got a new one so that I lost all my connects to contact if I were to be tempted. It's been 5 months now. I still seem to have a problem with caring too much about the little things, but I refuse to let it get the best of me. I will not blame my mood swings on that drug. It's my choice no matter what to be a big girl and realize I'm wrong too feeling so emotional. I still have floaters here and there, but usually if I. Drinking or have too much caffeine. My biggest issue is that I have severe hand shakes now. Sometimes eye shakes. And I constantly worry about my body and what harm I've done and don't know about yet. But after reading everyone's posts, I realize it is a miracle from god that I am alive. Wow...
 
Pmz seriously you need to get off this site. Its almost a year now and you still have the same questions. Get a job. Go out. Be busy. And soon you will forget all this things. The reason you still have that is that your wasting your time and life focusing on this when you know the only cure is to live with it and dont give a damn with how you feel. try that route and i promise you you will be in the same position as i am now. Stop asking how long... Did it go away etc.. Your prolonging your problem with all this. Promise you will feel better and eventually be 100% ok if you start now. We have been in the same boat, same time but see the difference i refused to go your route by questioning all this things 24/7. I continued life its hard in the beginning but its better to experience all the hardship all at once than be on your position now. Its scary everyone knows that but if you pass that fear and realize that all this doesnt really hinder you for having a fullfilling life then that fear will slowly fade and you will be back to your normal self. Its all anxiety trust me been into worst. Anxiety does NOT Stop you for living normally it is how you react to it. I hope next year will be a different story for you. Nyt..
Ahh Jethro! You made a post not too long ago that totally made me get off this website (well, a LOT more than I was previously!) and get me back into the life I once was in. You're totally right about all of this. I won't lie it is difficult forgetting everything, but it does get easier the longer you do it. I haven't had a freak out in about 2 months. I used to question my thoughts all the time. Haven't done that since May. I know also that you're right about the visuals too! It's just bloody hard to ignore those bastards when they're permanently in your eyesight, unless I'm indoors. Basically thanks for posting!
 
I keep saying I'll get off this site then get lonely and come back on here, it's kinda hard to stay away when nobody out of this site has a clue what I'm going through! Anyway PMZ i just wanted to say just because you don't feel anxiety doesn't mean you don't have any anxiety left, you're still derealised. From January onwards i suffered from panic attacks (NYE, didn't realise it at the time but i was already in a LTC before i made it worse on my birthday) the day i became derealised was the day i stopped suffering from panic attacks. Any anxiety on top of that was just sheer panic about everything looking weird/'overflow' anxiety in a sense.

Are you working at all? Fatigue is the biggest problem for me, I'm physically just too exhausted to work full time but i still work in tv part time in the same job. Without the fatigue it would be so much easier to get on with my life, i can even work with the Swiss cheese brain (for now, even though i hate it) as I'm only a runner so my job isn't mentally challenging, people at work probably just think I'm a bit ditzy sometimes

After my contract ends I'll be moving back home, starting meds and starting cbt. I'm planning on getting a part time job there and spending my free time exercising and joining local groups to meet new people (i currently exercise and socialise here, but i don't have many friends here and i get lonely which makes me so much worse). By September i will be in month 6 of Dr/dp 24/7 and i empathise with you because it fucking sucks. In month 4/5 now and I'm pretty sure it's gotten better but boy is it hard to tell!

Oh and also going to bite the bullet and split up with my boyfriend, I'm currently in a really unhealthy relationship and since i moved in my progress has slowed considerably and I'm pretty sure that's why. I'm always scared of being single (hence why I'm still with him) but latching onto the wrong person is never going to drag me out of this funk
 
hmm, I def still have the visual snow and all, but my vision i feel is even different than that. The world around me just looks weird. It has an apearance as If im tripping. Not warping or moving or anything, but spacy or alienlike. Its hard to describe. Im hoping this part goes away, as its a constant reminder. I can live with the snow, Just the spacy part is the weird part

How do I word this... Since being affected by your LTC, have you ever sat in the driver or front passenger seat of a vehicle, stopped at a red-light intersection, and you looked at the pavement near your side window and it looked like the road was very slowly moving forwards and/or backwards?

It only happens whenever the car isn't moving, but it used to trip me out big time back when I was recovering. And even now whenever I'm sick from the flu, cold, etc. - basically whenever I'm feeling dizzy due to catching a common virus, it still happens sometimes, although not nearly as often nor as intensely. For this reason, at one point I was worried that I might have been suffering from HPPD.

Actually, this is a question which I've wanted to ask anyone who may be able to relate, but I never really thought about doing so due to the fact that I've been so used to having other people answer that they have no idea what I'm talking about, because back when I was suffering with LTC symptoms, I was unable to find anyone who had went or was going through the same thing. And it was very depressing to not being able to find someone to relate. Definitely a feeling of hopelessness. I think I told you this before though, so if I did, I apologize for repeating myself.

Edit - P.S. - I hope you have a great day, take care buddy :)
 
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I keep saying I'll get off this site then get lonely and come back on here, it's kinda hard to stay away when nobody out of this site has a clue what I'm going through!

Indeed, having difficulties finding anyone who can personally relate to your despair and suffering can add a strong feeling of hopelessness to that, at least in my experience.

Anyway PMZ i just wanted to say just because you don't feel anxiety doesn't mean you don't have any anxiety left, you're still derealised. From January onwards i suffered from panic attacks (NYE, didn't realise it at the time but i was already in a LTC before i made it worse on my birthday) the day i became derealised was the day i stopped suffering from panic attacks. Any anxiety on top of that was just sheer panic about everything looking weird/'overflow' anxiety in a sense.

That may be the case, but I'm not 100% certain as I don't personally know PMZ.

Another reason he is not feeling inherently anxious may be due to the use of prescription medications, such as an SSRI, which typically induces a strong feeling of apathy in the patient once his body has become acclimated to the drug.

If you don't mind me asking, are you currently on any Rx drugs or herbal supplements PMZ? If you don't wanna tell me, I completely understand, and will not continue to ask, as it's none of my business.

Are you working at all? Fatigue is the biggest problem for me, I'm physically just too exhausted to work full time but i still work in tv part time in the same job. Without the fatigue it would be so much easier to get on with my life, i can even work with the Swiss cheese brain (for now, even though i hate it) as I'm only a runner so my job isn't mentally challenging, people at work probably just think I'm a bit ditzy sometimes

Have you considered trying Wellbutrin XL once you move back home?

It took me ~19 months to recover from my LTC, and I strongly feel that part of the reason why I managed to recover fully was because I used a few Rx meds - one of them being Wellbutrin XL 300mg OD, which helped immensely with feelings of fatigue, very low energy, dizziness, and some mild DP/DR which had remained after ~16 months post-LTC day 01.

19 months may sound like way too long, however, there was a time during my LTC when I was convinced that I would never see any improvement in my symptoms, let alone recovery fully, and I was seriously considering introducing my brain to some lead.

After my contract ends I'll be moving back home, starting meds and starting cbt. I'm planning on getting a part time job there and spending my free time exercising and joining local groups to meet new people (i currently exercise and socialise here, but i don't have many friends here and i get lonely which makes me so much worse). By September i will be in month 6 of Dr/dp 24/7 and i empathise with you because it fucking sucks. In month 4/5 now and I'm pretty sure it's gotten better but boy is it hard to tell!

I hope everything works out for you, but I just wanted to let you know that it may vitally benefit you in terms of making a full recovery to see if you can take a few months off of work/school in order to concentrate on your health/recovery and only that, as any work/school related stress and fatigue may (or may not) undermine your progress, as it did in my case.

Understandably, we are all different, and what worked (and didn't work) for me may have the opposite effect in your case.

Oh and also going to bite the bullet and split up with my boyfriend, I'm currently in a really unhealthy relationship and since i moved in my progress has slowed considerably and I'm pretty sure that's why. I'm always scared of being single (hence why I'm still with him) but latching onto the wrong person is never going to drag me out of this funk

Indeed, hanging out with the wrong crowd, or having an intimate relationship with the wrong person may hamper efforts to mend your physical, mental, and/or emotional injuries.

Furthermore, there are many fish in the sea, and I'm sure there's someone out there who will treat you right, and at the same time, will not be more trouble than he or she is worth.

God I sound like Maury - I'll shut up now. Have a good one :)
 
No he pavement never looked weird on me like that but I May get similar anomalies. It's just more of a spacy look. And like my brain is a second behind my vision.

Also I'm on zero medications.
 
I just don't feel anxiety. I'm actually starting to get nervous again in my life. It's actually a good feeling for,my heart to beat nervously. Not anxiety. But like a nervous to talk to someone feeling. It's a good feeling I haven't felt in a while.

But nope. No anxiety. I still feel emotionally detached in many ways as well. It's hard to just ignore it after so long. I move on. I have a good busy life. But I want to experience it as deeply as I know I can. It's so annoying I don't get as excited to things as I used to. Music, social stuff. Maybe I'm just too in my head still
 
Thanks ro4eva (: as you can tell by my frequently more pessimistic posts I'm starting to get real frustrated with seemingly grinding to a halt recovery wise, or at least slowing down a lot...good to hear positive things from someone who was even worse off than i was! Wellbrutin sounds interesting, is that an ssri? I feel like having some energy would really help my recovery as I'll be able to do more to help myself as a result, it doesn't matter how much i sleep, i still feel the same! I actually have a bad cold at the moment and the only difference is i have a sore throat and am bunged up, my energy levels are so bad i can't tell the difference!

Also regarding work, I'll see how i feel, i think I'll take a few weeks off max if i do because the problem is I'm eating into my savings like crazy and that alone makes me stressed! I only work two days a week and the days are real hard to get through but afterwards I'm always glad i did it. Like i said though I'll see how it goes (:
 
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Also pmz do you experience fatigue often/constantly aswell? That coupled with the general lack of enthusiasm could be more depression than an anxiety thing (I'm not really in a place to say for sure though). I know you don't want to be reliant on meds but maybe you could try one to see if it gets you through that last wall
 
Ro4eva I know exactly what you mean and I've been freaking out over that the last couple of years as well (previous to my LTC I already had anxiety). I always thought I was the only one that had it.
 
Also pmz do you experience fatigue often/constantly aswell? That coupled with the general lack of enthusiasm could be more depression than an anxiety thing (I'm not really in a place to say for sure though). I know you don't want to be reliant on meds but maybe you could try one to see if it gets you through that last wall

I wouldn't really say fatigue as it's sometimes just takes a while for my brain to wake up in the morning. Like a few hours. Other than than. I have plenty of energy to spare.

I'm still really against meds. If I hit the 2 year mark and still feel like this. Ok then I might break down and take em
 
Ah okay, I'm quite relieved to hear that as i thought the constant really bad fatigue was part of the Dr/dp rather than a separate thing. In that case I'll find things a lot easier once my energy levels improve. And i really hope they do soon because i feel like I'm really hungover all the time.

I think you may still be a bit depressed perhaps. I know you are worried about the Swiss cheese brain but if you have the energy perhaps you should pursue your chosen career? (i have no idea if you are already but the feeling of moving forward in life may help)

Unfortunately in my chosen career crazy long hours are a given and with chronic fatigue i can't work full time right now, but i am pleased that i at least have my foot in the door, as it were (:
 
Been a while since I last posted, just checking in. Anxiety is under control now, meditation definitely helped. Still having symptoms but I don't care so much about them anymore. About once a day I get a sudden on edge feeling combined with muscle spasms all over, lasts about 30 mins. Its not possible to think these attacks away with meditation. Dr and dp have faded to almost nothing. I feel horribly fatigued though, can't stay awake a whole day even though I'm not doing much.

I'm thinking I might have a pretty bad vitamin D deficiency, I've been a major agoraphobe since that night and even before then I was basically nocturnal with my raving lifestyle. Don't want to pester the docs anymore though.
 
I'm thinking I might have a pretty bad vitamin D deficiency, I've been a major agoraphobe since that night and even before then I was basically nocturnal with my raving lifestyle. Don't want to pester the docs anymore though.
Know the feeling, I think my doctors all now hate me after the amount of times I've been to them.

I think I'm the only person here who hasn't even got an inch of fatigue, my sleeping is exactly the same as it was before.
 
Thanks ro4eva (: as you can tell by my frequently more pessimistic posts I'm starting to get real frustrated with seemingly grinding to a halt recovery wise, or at least slowing down a lot...good to hear positive things from someone who was even worse off than i was!

You're welcome, and anytime :)

I'm trying to help anyone I can to fully recover from their LTC, as I did back in 2007.

I made a promise to myself that if I ever recovered, that I would do what I could to help others who are dealing with the same issues.

Therefore, if you ever need to talk, feel free to PM me. I promise that I won't judge you, nor think less of you in any way for any reason, and I'll never talk behind your back. It's a harm reduction model that I've always been using to try to help others, and thankfully it appears to be effective.

Based on personal experience, I believe the accepted model of treatment which is based on "just say no to drugs" is terrible because it usually results in the patient being treated like a scumbag who doesn't deserve to live. In other words, I've been judged a lot by strangers who are supposed to be medical professionals and/or addiction experts. And whenever I did not agree with them on something/anything, they would write me up in their report that I was insubordinate, or refused to accept responsibility for my actions, and none of it was true. And it just made things worse for me (kicking me while I'm down will typically result in me using more drugs), but I digress.

Wellbrutin sounds interesting, is that an ssri? I feel like having some energy would really help my recovery as I'll be able to do more to help myself as a result, it doesn't matter how much i sleep, i still feel the same! I actually have a bad cold at the moment and the only difference is i have a sore throat and am bunged up, my energy levels are so bad i can't tell the difference!

Wellbutrin XL (drug name is Bupropion) is not an SSRI, but rather a Reuptake Inhibitor of Dopamine and Norepinephrine. In other words, it's a mild version of an amphetamine-type stimulant.

It's also known as Zyban, which is used to help smokers who are trying to quit, as it also affects nicotine receptors, thus, typically making smoking seem very nasty.

Wellbutrin XL 300mg once daily was an enormous help in my case for symptoms of fatigue, low energy, depressed mood, dizziness, trouble concentrating/focusing, and DP/DR to an extent.

That being said, not everyone reacts well to it, as it tends to increase feelings of anxiety, as well as the chances of having a seizure. Therefore, if you suffer from epilepsy, I believe Wellbutrin XL is contraindicated, but I could be wrong.

On the plus side, it is excellent for symptoms of fatigue and low energy, doesn't cause weight gain, usually doesn't take as long as SSRIs to start working, and may also increase your libido. And it's actually being studied as a treatment for obesity, ADD, and sexual dysfunction IIRC.

Also regarding work, I'll see how i feel, i think I'll take a few weeks off max if i do because the problem is I'm eating into my savings like crazy and that alone makes me stressed! I only work two days a week and the days are real hard to get through but afterwards I'm always glad i did it. Like i said though I'll see how it goes (:

Yeah, it was financially very difficult in my case too. In fact, I nearly went broke, however, it allowed me to focus on myself with having to worry about work responsibilities, which significantly lowered stress levels, which I believe was vital in helping me recover.

Again though, we are all different, and you may not require the time off that I did, or you may not require any time off at all. You would be the best judge of that of course.

Anyways, I hope I was able to answer your questions, and I wish you a speedy recovery, take care :)
 
Ro4eva I know exactly what you mean and I've been freaking out over that the last couple of years as well (previous to my LTC I already had anxiety). I always thought I was the only one that had it.

Hey coderbrah,

I'm sorry but are you talking about seeing the road as if it's very slowly moving or..?

If you are, just wanted to say that I once (and only one time ever) tried to explain this phenomenon to my family physician at the time, and he ended up prescribing me a very high dosage of an anti-psychotic medication 8)

That's the other reason why I've been very reluctant to share it with others - in this case, any of my doctors.
 
Hey coderbrah,

I'm sorry but are you talking about seeing the road as if it's very slowly moving or..?

If you are, just wanted to say that I once (and only one time ever) tried to explain this phenomenon to my family physician at the time, and he ended up prescribing me a very high dosage of an anti-psychotic medication 8)

That's the other reason why I've been very reluctant to share it with others - in this case, any of my doctors.

Yeah exactly that. If I focus on one spot in the road its like it starts to slowly shift after a few seconds. It freaked me out as well because I would think oh no im going to hallucinate.
 
Probably got mentionned somewhere in this thread, but any idea on the ''mushrooms could cure anxiety and depression'' thing?

My outlook on life and my ability to let go of how I feel cured me from all my symptoms but visual stuff and anxiety including awareness of heartbeat.

I'd like to be able to get rid of my anxiety once in for all...
 
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