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Etizolam Rising in Popularity in the UK

Meph or coke generally.

I can normally sleep fine a couple of hours after the last dose of either but every once in a while I struggle a bit. I've taken vallies a few times (found some in the medicine box at home) after meph sessions but don't know how much difference they made because as I say, I can usually sleep well anyway. Don't care about euphoria, I have other stuff for that, just want something that'll reliably knock me out with minimal side effects in the morning.
 
well if you can sleep well anyway why do you want a benzo? seriously you're starting to play with fire when you do that... will just lead to a downward spiral of addiction benzos pretty rapidly.

drink some sleep tea made my twinings. use two bags. seriously don't doubt it - it works well.
 
they are very handy to have around just for comedowns or bad anxiety but the chances of them being strictly used so sparingly are very slim. I bought etiz for the same reason and more or less took them daily from day 1 ending up with a benzo habit which is no joke. free from the fuckers now though thank fuck.
 
SummerSerenade said:
Cba reading whole thread, just quickly want to know it would be a good idea to get some etiz for helping me get to sleep more quickly after a stim sesh? Only occasionally, I don't generally have problems with sleep but when I do it's a pain in the ass so I'd like something on hand. If not etiz then what would you say (I can get pretty much anything)?
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They do the job. thats all i use them for. however, dont take them days in a row, they seem to rebound hard. gapped minimal usage only, can be done quite easily. take the piss with them though and they will bite hard. same with all short half life benzos i think
 
I find them quite inconsistent, sometimes 5 will have me feeling quite nice but functional other times 1 will wipe me out. Xanax is my benzo of choice, 2mg will see you asleep no matter what. So moreish though.
 
ColtDan said:
They do the job. thats all i use them for. however, dont take them days in a row, they seem to rebound hard. gapped minimal usage only, can be done quite easily. take the piss with them though and they will bite hard. same with all short half life benzos i think
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Yeah that's all I wanted to know. As I said, I only need them once in a blue moon so I don't see myself having any problems. Thanks <3
 
SummerSerenade said:
Meph or coke generally.

I can normally sleep fine a couple of hours after the last dose of either but every once in a while I struggle a bit. I've taken vallies a few times (found some in the medicine box at home) after meph sessions but don't know how much difference they made because as I say, I can usually sleep well anyway. Don't care about euphoria, I have other stuff for that, just want something that'll reliably knock me out with minimal side effects in the morning.
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That'll be xanax you want then (or one of the decent Z's), not etiz.

I only ever take blues or sleepers for the same reason as you just stated (occasionally and deffo not daily).

My advice? Leave this shit alone, it really is fucking garbage for sleeping imo .... it wont do what you need and you'll be disappointed and probably just go for a higher dose to get the desired effect.

ponch said:
I find them quite inconsistent, sometimes 5 will have me feeling quite nice but functional other times 1 will wipe me out. Xanax is my benzo of choice, 2mg will see you asleep no matter what. So moreish though.
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^ This
 
You're much better off going for one of the benzos that are actually designed as a sedative than alprazolam if you want sleep. 2mg alprazolam is roughly equivalent to 80mg temazepam and less than half that will switch the lights off for most other people.

It's pretty short acting as well so it won't fuck with you too much in the morning.
 
Really? Ah it's all so confusing, I know literally fuck all about prescription meds. Plus it's hard to judge isn't it because what works well for one person doesn't work for another. Getting fucked is a much easier thing to judge than finding a reliable sleep aid it would seem ;) I've taken vallies a few times but that's all, just never really needed anything. Will have to look into it a bit more I suppose. Or I might just buy a small amount of Xanax as you said Marm (or whatever is easiest to get) and have a crack with that. Sure it'll help at least.
 
Xanax will do just fine though.

Just saying that really if you have the option it makes sense to get a hypnotic benzo rather than an anxyolitic if you just want it for sleeping because they are more sedating at lower doses. They also tend to be more recreational as well ime but that's just personal choice.
 
karmanaut said:
I been reading some bits saying Etizolam can increase Estrogen levels in men is there any truth to this?

Anyone noticed any physical changes / boobage etc?
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where have you read this? never heard that before
 
karmanaut said:
I been reading some bits saying Etizolam can increase Estrogen levels in men is there any truth to this?

Anyone noticed any physical changes / boobage etc?
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Prolactogenic effects of etizolam by Yasuhiro Kaneda

The result showed a greater but non-significant prolactogenic effect of etizolam.
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Although that doesn't mean that some day soon we won't here about some extreme cases of etizolam abuse resulting in gynecomastia. I don't know if this has happened yet or even if it's a possibility, I would be interested to know about any cases where this has happened.
 
It knocked me out proper for 8 hours but I didn't feel refreshed when I woke up.*

*Bear in mind I had been using drugs on an off for a few days & had missed a nights sleep.
 
Yeah good point, it does the same to me... i can sleep for 8 hours on it but only feel like i've slept 4. although sleeping on benzos is a bit bollocks for sleep anyway or so ive found. i could do with getting some zop or xanax, zops conk me out nice and wake up fresh. altho have only tried them once
 
In my experience it does have fairly hypnotic properties. But there are probably many less problematic drugs which work better for sleep. I've been using etizolam chiefly as an anxiolytic.
 
Temazepam and nitrazepam are the best benzos for sleep, by far. The latter more so if you don't have to be up bright and early.

Xanax will knock you out cold for a few measly hours and then make you feel more wide awake than you would've done had you spent those few hours drinking coffee. I used to hate having to redose in the middle of the night.
 
They're pretty rare on the black market compared to vallies, clonaz and xannies, but they're out there.

Without a tolerance, 15mg nitrazepam will make me sleep like a baby for up to twelve hours. Around 30mg temazepam would do the same, albeit only for 6-8 hours or so.

The half-life of nitraz can be annoying if you have stuff to do the next day. Temaz is no such trouble, but it's so enjoyable (as far as benzos go) that there's a temptation to get all wobbly.
 
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