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Gibberings CLXXII - I Have Zero Imagination

Great, isn't it? All the young 'uns can feel what it's like to live in fear of imminent destruction.

I suppose there was the 'War on Terror', but that was just a vague threat and an excuse to do the same kind of 'regime change' bullshit which has sparked the Ukrainian crisis.
 
swampdragon said:
I don't think it would be worth bothering with the stems unless you were really desperate, MDB. Probably best to leave them alone anyway.
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Not the answer i wanted but you are probaly right, plus they are more likely to be infested with various bugs and parasites and got knows what else too. So bin rather than pan it is then. :\ I'm not really desperate for more poppies, i just like the waste nothing that can be of any possible use approach, but you have to draw the line somewhere dont you. 8(
 
Sorry, I am the voice of boring and reason, yeah. They're more likely to have been pissed on by dogs and wild animals, too.
 
Sammy G said:
MDB - If I were you, I'd have bypassed the poppy-scoring route and used the modern extraction methods from poppy straw. You get a whole lot more alkaloids that way. .
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you mean using chemicals and stuff ? Cos the heads are concentrated enough that the alkaloids need nothing more than a whizz through a blender and soaking in hot water for a basic extraction of some alkaloids ? I cant quite get my head around the steps needed to turn poppy tea into something more potent. Im sure its not all that difficult i just find it hard to pick up the knowledge from a book, but could probably easily do it if visually shown how.

I just wanted to try the scoring thing as it has been the first year since i developed an interest that the weather has been perfect.

No not gulty of poaching your patch guv :sus::p, you are actually a fair bit further away from me than i initially thought.
 
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You only need water (preferably acidified) to make a crude extract containing all the same alkaloids as opium, which you can then concentrate / dry as necessary. Drying is most convenient, but it ain't smokeable sadly. An awful lot of this went up my arse a couple of summers ago. I can't stand poppy tea - you need far too much of the stuff.

You could procure chemicals and do the job more throughly, ending up with what is essentially opium, but it's a laborious process. Ever heard of kompot though?
 
interesting link, Id never heard of Kompot, though it is probably much the same thing as discussed extensively in the book 'Opium For The Masses'. The talk of things like "a simple way of making it by extracting opiate alkaloids from poppy straw by using ion exchange resin, acetone, ammonia water and a few other chemicals" unsurprisingly thoroughly deters me, as i havent a fucking clue of the precise methods and skills required. I could do with meeting a local Eisenberg/Walter White type charcter.

During the period when i was drinking a lot of poppy tea, i would use a second extract of the previous mulch as a base for the next brew adding a few fresh heaped tbsbs of ground dried pods into it with a bit of lemon or lime juice. As i got throroughly bollocked for advocating potentialy dangerously strong brews last time i mentioned this, for the sake of HR i should add that this can yield a very strong brew, depending on the variable alkaloid content of the pods themselves.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
interesting link, Id never heard of Kompot, though it is probably much the same thing as discussed extensively in the book 'Opium For The Masses'. The talk of things like "a simple way of making it by extracting opiate alkaloids from poppy straw by using ion exchange resin, acetone, ammonia water and a few other chemicals" unsurprisingly thoroughly deters me, as i havent a fucking clue of the precise methods and skills required. I could do with meeting a local Eisenberg/Walter White type charcter.
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In all honesty, a crude extract that's been concentrated and / or dried is just as good.
 
Sammy G said:
In all honesty, a crude extract that's been concentrated and / or dried is just as good.
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Good to know that i havent been missing out too much then. Using a second wash through as the base for the next batch made a big difference to the potency. I did once evaporate a panfull right down to something that looked like a pancake at the bottom of the pan. I could then divide that up and roll it up into chunks that could be downed in one with a gulp of water. It was a lot easier to take than drking the tea which i agree does taste foul. But the fouler it tastes the stronger it is.
 
Ha, i know, that is not my aversion to the ROA. It's more one of fear of wastage due to improper technique due to being slightly 'backed up' down there. Tmi :o

Youtube have been threatening this for a while now Dan, they are planning on making it a subsription only service. The independent artists arent happy with the returns they would get. Imo they have to accept that the way people consume music has changed forever, and that they wont ever get so much of their revenue from CD sales like they might have done 10 - 15 years ago ever again, and will rake in more cash through touring. Even though more and more ISPs seem to be clamping down of p2p and other filesharing things, i think they have already lost the war on piracy. One of the most publicised independent artists unhappy with the situation has been Billy Bragg, if i was him i would be thankfull that my music was on youtube and that millions of people were listening to it and so more likely to pay to see him live. Its not as if he gets a lot of airtime on the radio and stuff, so people might not have even heard him at all otherwise. Even Metallica arent getting a strop on about their music being freely available on youtube. If this happens it will kill the 'what are you listening to' threads, and what will FG do without his stone roses and oasis. :p
 
Eveleivibe said:
Happy Tuesday EADD! I've missed you people heaps - I hope you're all doing ace n stuff!
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Hiya, Evey. Welcome back - let's see if we can keep you around for a bit longer this time ;)<3

Sammy G said:
Yeah, that's what I used to do, although more so with valium.

It's the perfect hangover cure / prophylactic. Unfortunately, it often means that instead of a hangover, you wake up with a trashed house, an angry girlfriend and a thousand vindictive text messages you don't recall sending.

Bad idea.
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This.

Although said 'this' can be avoided if you take your benzo just as you go to bed after a boozy night (booze gives me an awful night sleep anyway so has added benefits in this situation too). If it really has been a very boozy night it's probably better to save the benzo for the aftermath in case of semi-conscious blackouts. I pop a diaz (or etiz or whatever - they all work as far as I can tell) under me tongue of a morn and can function more or less fine within the hour (usually half that at a push). Having had benzo 'issues' in the fairly remote past I'm still a bit cautious so only use the benzo trick when it is an absolute world-ender of a hangover though. If you drink enough to be horribly hungover regularly you'll only end up with a sneaky benzo habit if you try it too often. Does work a treat though. So does GBL (in some ways better cos you actually feel not just 'okay' (more or less okay anyway) but properly good - and within 5-10 mins too). GBL is very easy to get into cycles of 24/7 use though so perhaps even more caution that benzos required. I presume this is down to them all hitting GABA receptors (to varying degrees and ratios) - bit like tapering down from a session rather than stopping dead and getting the full comedown hit hard all at once.

ColtDan said:
144- year old Wisterias looks like a pink sky
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That's incredible <3

(and hope you're feeling better soonest <3)
 
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