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Gibberings CLXXI: No Twattery Allowed - Waiting on Raas's Call

raas_2012 said:
Erm, other news....I'm a week or 2 out...but Evey has told me that she will never use the site again, thanks to the negative comments she constantly receives! And believe me, if she says she'll never use the site again... she certainly means it! We've lost a great member for good... jus' think about that...
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I'm sure that half of these perceived negative comments were from you ? You were put on ignore several times over your negative comments etc
 
People are supplying drugs through this site...?

Why haven't I been offered any?

As for blaming this site or any of its members for things going tits up is... well... ridiculous frankly.. I dont know the full details of brimzs case other than it sounded horrific, however Brimz made a choice to accept and ingest said drugs. Unfortunately it went horribly wrong but he needs to take ownership of it and stop slinging mud.

Id love to hold others responsible for my car crash of a life, twas all my own doing though..

Im questioning my own use of this site lately, while its helpful for alot of people with sound advice keeping folk safe it tends to keep my obssesion with drugs burning.

Im going to take Joes advice a few pages back and try sobriety out for a while...
 
If you really don't have any self control then simply keep off the site - I would hope that people posting are adult enough to understand that simply by reading about a compound does not mean they have to take it. Also if THEY chose to take it then that is there responsibility, not the site's, not the posters.
 
Bearlove said:
If you really don't have any self control then simply keep off the site - I would hope that people posting are adult enough to understand that simply by reading about a compound does not mean they have to take it. Also if THEY chose to take it then that is there responsibility, not the site's, not the posters.
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Word.

We're all grown-ups. I realised a long time ago that the decision to take or not a certain drug is mine & the responsibility for the consequences is 100% on me. A bigger boy gave me it doesn't really wash when you're more than 8 years old.
 
Glad somebody beat me to it.

Again, I reckon what used to be called 'the fear' and was usually alleviated by stopping smoking and / or bare feet on a cold floor, has suddenly become 'psychosis' in people's minds, with obvious results.

That's not to say it's the case all of the time, but look at LSD for example. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Sammy G said:
Glad somebody beat me to it.

Again, I reckon what used to be called 'the fear' and was usually alleviated by stopping smoking and / or bare feet on a cold floor, has suddenly become 'psychosis' in people's minds, with obvious results.

That's not to say it's the case all of the time, but look at LSD for example. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Add in all the constant "Weed is so much stronger, it's not the same stuff as in my day" shouts. Despite Chuck D's warnings, people usually do believe the hype.
 
Yeah, the "weed is so much stronger" brigade are annoying as fuck. So the Moroccan polm you freely smoked in the sixties wasn't as strong as the average shitty commercial-grade weed of unknown origin which dominates the market and is known to the general public by the equally-annoying misnomer 'skunk'?

Yeah, right.
 
Scotch is a hell of a lot stronger than beer so I choose not to drink a whole bottle each night. The same goes for weed, if its strong I'll only smoke a little bit, rather than roll a fat Jamaican trumpet.

ScotchMist said:
People are supplying drugs through this site...?

Why haven't I been offered any?
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Everyone assumes you are a narc obviously
 
Bearlove said:
If you really don't have any self control then simply keep off the site - I would hope that people posting are adult enough to understand that simply by reading about a compound does not mean they have to take it. Also if THEY chose to take it then that is there responsibility, not the site's, not the posters.
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Exactly!!

Or stay out of certain threads. fucking hell.

Blame the site or people on it... what a load of bollocks
 
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Morning all,

Only just read the last few pages of this thread trying to catch up. We all use drugs , whatever that drug happens to be for a reason and I would suggest many people are self medicating. It is though impossible without knowing a person's full history if a mental health problem is the reason for 'medicating or the mental health problem is the result of drug use. We are all different. Some people even have self control and rationale! The general consensus amongst many Mental health professionals I worked with - is that weed does exacerbate pschosis or possibly even cause it. The same with stims and in particular Khat was thought to be a major culprit in the areas it is mostly used. Evidence changes all the time once Schizophrenia was thought to be caused solely by a per-disposition already brought on by some form of emotional trauma and all of a sudden now we have 'evidences' of a direct genetic link-that the NHS I hasten to add denies..sooooo..

I have never been able to smoke weed or solid, of however a low or high alleged potency. It makes me full on paranoid. Even with the people I trust the most in the world 2-3 drags and I am hiding under a duvet thinking they are plotting to kill me, rob me etc. The answer-I just don't ever smoke weed. I tried again after about 10 yr break..and yep same thing.

If some of the threads are triggering..just stay off them? We all ended up here for different reasons. I came because I needed information as to,if I was going to lose a limb after taking stupid (I had no idea how much to take) amounts of branded research chemicals. I now do not take branded research chemicals.

In fact with the exception of 4-FA (which has been around since the 70's and in use by a few since then??) My use has changed ..mostly for the better. I stick with "the old school" drugs for the most part now and in actual fact the drug I hammered (and in my view it is a drug) ALCOHOL, and my use of it is nominal now. I could and did often drink a litre of spirits in a session. Then again the coke fuels that.want/need.

I actually think overall my drug use has changed for the better since coming here. Therefore at least form of the 'Harm Reduction' ethos of this site have filtered down. Yes, I will still push it too much sometimes and yes I am only human, fallible, have a compulsive and slightly obsessive nature anyway. BUT still I think I am in a better and safer place in terms of educating myself before shoving unknown things down my gullet or up my nosal.

We make choices many of them emotionally charged and or based on our individual personalities and mental states.

Thank god for the peev threads I now know it is one drug a long with a few others that for me personally would be the beginning of the end..but that's just me.

Over and out...use the bloomin social threads if you're struggling, post some music, come to the sabbatical thread or just have a good rant in the angry thread. Bluelight has many outlets. <3
 
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inflorescence said:
Only just read the last few pages of this thread trying to catch up. We all use drugs , whatever that drug happens to be for a reason and I would suggest many people are self medicating. It is though impossible without knowing a person's full history if a mental health problem is the reason for 'medicating or the mental health problem is the result of drug use. We are all different. Some people even have self control and rationale!
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Important to remember. Easy to forget. :)

inflorescence said:
Evidence changes all the time once Schizophrenia was thought to be caused solely by a pre-disposition already brought on by some form of emotional trauma and all of a sudden now we have 'evidences' of a direct genetic link-that the NHS I hasten to add denies..sooooo..
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Really? :?

NHS Direct said:
Genetics
Schizophrenia tends to run in families, but no individual gene is responsible. It is more likely different combinations of genes might make people more vulnerable to the condition. However, having these genes does not necessarily mean you will develop schizophrenia.
Evidence the disorder is partly inherited comes from studies of identical twins brought up separately. They were compared with non-identical twins raised separately and the general public. For identical twins raised separately, if one twin develops schizophrenia, the other twin has a one in two chance of developing it. In non-identical twins, who share only half of each other's genetic make-up, when one twin develops schizophrenia, the other twin has a one in seven chance of developing the condition.
While this is higher than in the general population (where the chance is about one in a 100), it suggests genes are not the only factor influencing the development of schizophrenia.
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Doesn't seem to be the case on their website at least. All they appear to 'deny' is that certain genes will definitely, certainly, without doubt cause schizophrenia.
 
That was the thinking when I worked for them so judging by that perhaps I am wrong SG.

Perhaps I miscommunicated what I meant though as it states above the the NHS do not accept 'no individual gene is responsible' and what I was trying to say is that there are now evidences from some fractions that there actually is a gene. Albeit that gene being rare-see here.

This article NHS-is interesting too.

I don't work in that field anymore. Got burnt out after a couple of decades of it and I don't smoke weed or have schizophrenia so my reading on the subject is probably not what it should be.

Anyway off to do things. Drugs free for a while. Reeling it in. But still popping in now and again <3
 
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