White "Genocide"

[What 23]

It's not Genocide in a sense that we usually associate it. It's more dissolving/blending, but in a sense, could be to the uniqueness of one "race".

I've been reading arguments made by White Nationalists against race mixing, and the amount of immigration into European countries by people of color, and from other countries. I have perhaps been drawn to this by my own perception of otherness, among others. Of difference. When I think of England, I think of a nation where my ancestry is. Same with Germany and Ireland. I don't think of a place with a large population of Arabs, or Blacks. And sometimes, it feels threatening, even to me- someone who doesn't live there. I identify with "far right" movements that seem to be gaining steam there in Europe. I identify with wanting to shut borders down, where not long ago I was very liberal, and not understanding why we had borders at all, hardly.

I don't know how to say this, or lead into this. I know I already have many of you thinking I'm a racist hick, or something.

But you've seen the pictures. You've seen projections of what some people think will happen in our future... That we will all be blended here in America, and Europe. That, the average person you might see will look like this:

Now, I am not saying these people are "bad", in any way. This isn't my argument with this. This isn't my battle inside. My battle is with the fact that this is accepted- this disappearance of the unique White race, into a blending, because of all of these other peoples, immigrating into (or brought into) what were traditionally White societies/civilizations, will only have each other, and the White ones. And they are in the White ancestral lands, or lands that Whites colonized with masses. It is strange to think that Whites were the ones who colonized, and conquered, and now this is projected to become of them, on average, as soon as 2050 (am I right?), and later, even more will become "less white" through the generations.

It's not right. I'm not trying to be racist, but while this will happen to Whites, as projected, the countries these immigrants came from will remain largely similar to what they were, at least that's what we can project now. I know things change, but right now, this is what is on the horizon apparently-- Whites will "give" themselves to this, sort of like the Neanderthal did with Whites (or that's sort of what's been said to have happened). In some end, European blood might only account for, like Neanderthal in Europeans, 2% or so (I don't know) of the ancestry of people, as more and more people immigrate to these nations, if they continue to prosper, and be centers as they are.

Do you find it something you wish for? Are you against it? What do you think about it? Do you understand my trouble?

I've been banned from a certain White Nationalism website for asking tough questions of them- because I get tired of seeing such ugly hate... Many of them are anti-Semites. Most of them are. They blame Jews for everything- even this. But, I am genuinely in conflict about this possibility, regardless, and frankly hope that more White people choose to only marry within their own race, and that Whites who are married to Whites actually start producing children. And I wish for immigration to slow down to ancestrally White countries, like in Europe.

Again, it's not that I hate anyone. I've just developed some views, that aren't quite solid, but it's all got me thinking. I don't think it will be quite as drastic as some think... And it might be preserved, some "white" people, but certainly, some ethnicities within that larger group will dwindle and fade away, and nobody seems to care, except extremists, or "racists", according to so many. I've went from in my life not caring about this stuff, not wanting borders, to wishing for better borders.

 

[One Thousand Words]

When the aliens come and we have to take up arms against them we will be all just considered human

 

[What 23]

I understand that the closer we are, the more separation we see (Irish and English, English and German), and the further out we observe a space (if aliens come and attack), the more alike we seem (we're all just human). But we live in this world, for now. And right now, I do see the possibility of a disappearing/dissolving branch, of some really beautiful people, perhaps into more other beautiful people, but soon, only 100s of years it's possible, the original inhabitants will only be found in photographs. Then again, I doubt it it will be so extreme so soon. But they certainly won't be as numerous.

To think of all the achievements the race has accomplished. Electricity, cars, communications across the globe by telegraph and later phone and internet... planes, rocket to space. Satellites can largely be credited to Whites. Whites flew to the moon (it was largely White effort, anyways). Computers largely Whites, though Steve Jobs who was big on it was part Syrian, he is still of the White grouping. Albert Einstein, although Jewish, is "White". So many of the great artists have been "White". The languages that are most spoken in the world are "White" languages- those that many know, and common alphabets are "White" alphabets. And I guess here I'm expressing certain racism, and exclusion, accepting some as okay to mix with, and others, not so much, but then Jewish people often only want to remain "pure", as well. There are all different levels. In the end, honestly, I'm not so extreme- and I would let go, and accept the flow of things, but I am not without some worry. My blond haired family members, with white skin, and white features, are beautiful to me. And of course I want them represented in the future, not blended into races that evolved in the tropics/nearer to the equator, completely (nothing against those peoples, again.

It's a delicate... struggle. For "purity". I mean, if you get so extreme, and don't "mix" (because another family is another "other"), you end up inbreeding yourself to death. I, in-fact, find my sister attractive. More so than many girls. But I do want myself represented, instinctively. Blue eyed men, apparently, go for blue eyed women, according to some studies I read. One reason, it's was proposed, is that they could tell if their offspring were theirs by the eye color (which 99% of the time or so, would be blue). To say we don't want ourselves represented in our children, isn't true. I'd be in denial to say I'd prefer to impregnate and have a child with a black female over my ideal red-blond blue eyed girl, I think. The child with a Black female might very well not identify with me. And, the child if he/she needed a bone marrow transplant, or other organ transplant, might have a lot more trouble finding a donor. There are many things to consider, beyond what I feel selfishly.

More, Europeans are said to have up to 2.4 or so percent of Neanderthal DNA. We are already hybrids, in a sense, with another of the homo sapiens family, which had larger brains than us, and may have actually been smarter, in ways, than "regular" humans out of Africa. Therefore, do I really want to breed back? Breed down? When it comes to Africans... Do I want to breed down (Don't hate me, correct me, enlighten me), when it comes to some of the other races, that have less of this DNA, if it somehow gave us an edge? This species has about 300,000-400,000 years on us, iirc. They apparently could play music, as well. And created art, and had technology that we adapted/might have learned from, to survive in the certain harsher areas that they were already accustomed to.

 

[bunnymunro]

Assimilation has been a favored form of genocide by Europeans for centuries, and at the expense of the "pure blood"of the ayrians, which let's face it, would end up in some form of mutant-ism if kept to the shallow gene pool that it once inhabited.

Lets face it, the days of rule Britannia, the great white warriors shall conquer the world, are gone. They even let people with coloured skin govern their own small nations in some parts of the world. While you are lamenting the absence of potential blonde-haired blue eyed partners, spare a thought for the nations and generations of displaced peoples that brought about this terrible scenario.
If you think you are not racist, (strictly speaking, in a biological nomenclature sense, we are all one race anyway,sapiens) but prejudiced about other ethnic groups, try this test, developed by Harvard to test what we really think, or have been brought up to believe, the results are usually quite surprising, and I don't think its possible to cheat.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/
anyways we are all hear on this same electron together, and we just have to do what we can.

 

[What 23]

Oh, I know I'm "racist", but I try not to be... I try to be balanced and fair. And as well, as I said, as far as race, Europeans have Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis in them, at up around 2-3%, which is actually quite a chunk of genetic information. Africans, as far as has been proven, don't (unless mixed, which many African Americans are-- But their amount of this DNA is very little most likely compared to many Euros). So, we're not entirely one.

Thanks for not hating me for my post. So far the responses haven't been calling me "racist hick evil people like you make this world horrible!", like some conversations. But I don't understand "spare a thought for the generations of displaced peoples that brought about this terrible scenario". Explain further?

To be true and fair, and clear, it is not just Blond haired (or ginger) blue eyed people... It's all types of Whites. I just use blond/blues as examples, as they are at a seeming extreme end of the spectrum (though I do tend to be attracted to those I can see the pupils of). I know some really interesting looking amber eyed (or other eyed) brunettes that strike me, as well.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Why shouldn't the drakes be concerned that their genes are being diluted my the white maggots?

 

[What 23]

I'm not sure, precisely, how I would say why, but many races like Blonds. Whites/Caucasians tend to be rated among the most attractive, generally, among all races, in studies that I've seen. Please, anyone, point me to another study that says something else.

Sometimes, at least, I would prefer they did care, and I'd prefer that they wanted to stay with their own.

I have a question... I saw this picture in the lounge, and I became especially attracted to this one, seemingly non-White female in a group of other females (all naked). I wanted to ask what people think she might be. She might still be "White", but she certainly looks different than most Europeans that I consider "White".

The one on the very far right/bottom. I wanted her the most, sexually, in a moment. What is she? South European/Greek/Italian? Middle Eastern? Spanish/"Hispanic"? This is NSFW. And I apologize for derailing my own thread.

NSFW:

I had a desire to go down on her, especially. But I wouldn't be opposed to more.

 

[bunnymunro]

What I was meaning is that you are looking upon it from an entirely white pesrpective, and don't appear to be taking into account the feelings of the 'conquered races' throughout history, who I doubt consider the addition of caucasian genes to be a welcome addition to their bloodline. Not to mention the disruptions to their lands, stories and basically, history. However, I am not sure if thats starting to get off topic or not...

I would suggest that she is of hispanic/spanish origin, and probably now looks something like this...

 

[What 23]

That's what I thought you meant, but honestly, I don't really care (not to be cold, but...). If we didn't do it someone else would have. And now they all have TV, movies on TVs, hand held computers that they can operate with a single thumb, that can give them information on just about any subject they desire. They have electricity. And many of them used to eat each other (some still do), and many, like the ancient Mesoamericans, sacrificed people until some supposedly White dude came and got rid of human sacrifices, and another, perhaps the same White dude taught certain native Americans how to domesticate corn, by their legends. I'd have to say it's certainly better than a bunch of domineering cannibals coming and making us their sacrifices.

And now they actually have a chance of outliving the earth, to reach a little. And now they might even have a chance at not dying at all. Then again it's also now the White men who have the most potential to destroy the world many times over.

I look at it from a White perspective because I am White, and my race is the one seemingly in the most danger of disappearing completely, as all movement is immigration to White countries... Not White countries outward to "Brown and Black" countries, or other countries. I'm sure China might feel similarly, and Japan, if they practiced wide open borders, and if massive amount of them for generations had bred with Whites, diluting them. And in that case, say nobody was immigrating to Whiteland, Whiteland would be preserved. In this case, this is pretty White Centered, because these studies come out of formerly at least White Majority societies.

Are you saying that because of the past, and what was done to the others by the domineering Whites, that it's only right that Whites disappear/be dissolved? Otherwise, I don't see the relevance of that past to us, or why it should be repeated, or, that our impact really destroyed any certain group on the level that Whites might be disappeared/dissolved, as I don't think we mixed quite the same. Then again, I guess there is Hawaii, and other smaller places, and Native America(ns)-- Though they are still represented... how much longer? And then Mexico (Native), and South Americas. Again still, I don't think this justifies our disappearance at all. And if we can help it, I think we should try to preserve it, and I guess, I have respect for White Nationalists... Or, I wish I could have respect for them. Most of them are, seemingly angry low life scumbags, from what I have found. Certain ideas I agree with, though.

And no way... She is way hotter.

 

[bunnymunro]

Ok, you are quite ignorant i don't mean that in an insulting manner, merely an observation. I know very little of the history of my country, Australia, however I do believe that the original inhabitants lived on the land for 40,000 years before the whites settled it and brought all these wonderful inventions that you mention. Granted, individuals now have a longer life span than previously but I find it hard to believe that they will outlive the earth as you put it. In the 200 or so years since colonisation, the earth has been pillaged to within an inch of its life, and I seriously doubt that it's good for another200 at this rate.
Seriously, the whities have been the viruses on this planet, the newcomers who have spoilt the resources so as they can have shiney things and really are violent, greedy and selfish. Sometimes I ponder that they were the people of the biblical Adam that ate the apple and previously the earth was as nature intended.

 

[subotai]

the Earth has a finite lifespan no matter how you put it

pretty sure white people were responsible for the invention of rocketry which is what led to the Space Age

pretty sure we're gonna have to go through space to leave Earth

pretty sure Africans have been killing each other for being the wrong tribe long before White people got all the blame for slavery

powerful African tribes sold less powerful Africans into slavery, textbooks leave that out

pretty sure there will always be white people

 

[spacejunk]

News flash: we all came from Africa.
Regionsl differences in psysical characteristics are a result of environmental adaptation and genetics over long periods of time.
Humans evolve like any other animal.
Though this thread seems more a case if devolution to me. Or 1930s style eugenics.
Have you studied phrenology? Seems right up your alley.

 

[legalizeall]

Ok, you are quite ignorant i don't mean that in an insulting manner, merely an observation. I know very little of the history of my country, Australia, however I do believe that the original inhabitants lived on the land for 40,000 years before the whites settled it and brought all these wonderful inventions that you mention. Granted, individuals now have a longer life span than previously but I find it hard to believe that they will outlive the earth as you put it. In the 200 or so years since colonisation, the earth has been pillaged to within an inch of its life, and I seriously doubt that it's good for another200 at this rate.
Seriously, the whities have been the viruses on this planet, the newcomers who have spoilt the resources so as they can have shiney things and really are violent, greedy and selfish. Sometimes I ponder that they were the people of the biblical Adam that ate the apple and previously the earth was as nature intended.

This comment is just as ignorant and racist as anything said above if not worse.

 

[thujone]

powerful African tribes sold less powerful Africans into slavery, textbooks leave that out

no, I definitely remember reading about that in my highschool history textbook. They sold other Africans to the Dutch for transport to the West Indies.

To think of all the achievements the race has accomplished. Electricity, cars, communications across the globe by telegraph and later phone and internet... planes, rocket to space. Satellites can largely be credited to Whites. Whites flew to the moon (it was largely White effort, anyways). Computers largely Whites, though Steve Jobs who was big on it was part Syrian, he is still of the White grouping. Albert Einstein, although Jewish, is "White". So many of the great artists have been "White". The languages that are most spoken in the world are "White" languages- those that many know, and common alphabets are "White" alphabets. And I guess here I'm expressing certain racism, and exclusion, accepting some as okay to mix with, and others, not so much, but then Jewish people often only want to remain "pure", as well. There are all different levels. In the end, honestly, I'm not so extreme- and I would let go, and accept the flow of things, but I am not without some worry. My blond haired family members, with white skin, and white features, are beautiful to me. And of course I want them represented in the future, not blended into races that evolved in the tropics/nearer to the equator, completely (nothing against those peoples, again.

Who came up with the concept of zero? Arabs. Good luck going to space without it. Who invented gunpowder? Asians. Good luck throwing a revolution without it (you can look at Ukraine (Orange Revolution) or Egypt (Arab Spring) to see how well revolutions without gunpowder tend to play out). Shit, the only reason white people have even accomplished anything is because we're way too obsessed with subjugating other races through shows of superior technology (i.e. imperialism). Meanwhile we've lagged behind in social and spiritual sophistication, hence our ridiculous attempts to compensate for it with crap like the New Age movement.

I don't even understand the logic behind racial purity. Nature prefers diversity. It's well known that the Ashkenazi jews (with a history of selective breeding) have passed down a laundry list of genetic disorders. If anything, that makes me even more hesitant to want to procreate with someone who likewise has blue eyes. Also, blue eyes is a recessive trait so it's difficult to ensure it gets passed on unless you're genetically screening all your partners. How's that gonna play out? "I love you babe, but I need a sample of your blood so I can 23-and-me you or it's just not gonna work out between us"?

Fact of the matter is, you're attracted to what you're familiar with¹. You see nothing but blond hair and blue eyes in your fam? That becomes your standard for attraction. I've lived a long time surrounded by asians, guess what my standard is? As someone with blond hair and blue eyes, if I have an attractive white girl and an attractive asian girl in front of me it's a guarantee I'll focus on the asian girl. I don't see what's so genocidal about my personal life choices that nobody else should have any say in. You can keep the bloodlines pure if you want, but please don't force that shit on any kid you bring into the world.

¹ _{http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/366/1571/1638.full}

 

[Kenickie]

can we close this thread? there are a million of these all started by white guys who "aren't racist" but "omg the dilution of the race!" and "omg look at all the accomplishments of the race" never mind that the OP always attributes accomplishments to white people that were all invented by non whites, but that's never important.

doesn't matter. pureblood standards lost out when a half blood, blood traitor and mudblood brought down voldemort in '97.

 

[What 23]

Please, enlighten me... I'll begin looking again, but it does seem that Whites carried this stuff through, at the very least. Morse was White, and so were the guys who were working on the telegraph like technologies. Rocketry was largely White. White guys went to space/the moon.

It ultimately doesn't really matter to my main argument about what they did or didn't invent. And I didn't say others didn't pioneer other things, but that when you look at the world, Whites (or at the very least, Caucasians which Jews are considered) have surely created a lot of useful things. Cars, trains, planes. Discovered Electricity. Nuclear power. Zero- the concept of, came from a Persian, which is of the Caucasian family group, though you're right-- Not European white, even though I find they often mix "well" with European, and I don't consider them quite so other.

About "outliving the earth", I am merely referring to the possibility that our technology might, although the use of is hurting the earth, might be able to carry us from the earth (but of course now it would be a group effort, in this melting world). I like to think of it like a chick, possibly, breaking out of it's egg (or, something). It's a fantastic idea, but to think that we are just slaves to the lifecycle of the earth, is sadder to me than accepting that we'd and all life would die with it, when it came time for some extinction on a mass scale, human caused or not (they happen with or without us).

Again, I didn't quite get to it clearly above, but no matter our achievements, which apparently we robbed from everyone else because we are mean imperialists, is it right that we just dissolve ourselves, or dilute ourselves? Why is it expected of us? I wouldn't feel this way if it was a balanced process, but as so many like to project, they like to see the disappearance of White people, into beige and brown colored people, with traits of many others, and as said, if these lands continue to prosper, more and more brown immigrants will come in and replace white genetics, possibly.

I don't really care who you marry. I have been over this, and I wouldn't hate if my children married outside their race. I tend to live and let live...

But on a level, this disappearance, and expectation that we should just "lay down" while allowing all these different types to enter into ancestrally White lands, and Blacks marry Whites en masse as is popularized by media as "good diversity coming together! everyone's equal! race is just a social construction!", is troubling. Because really, I'm not sure if we are so similar enough that we should be breeding with everyone, mindlessly. And Jews do have genetic disorders, yes... But they also often rank very highly in intelligence. This is what fuels some of the antisemitism in White Nationalist groups... They tend to think there's some Jewish Elite controlling everything, including the media, and Hollywood, trying to herd our populations into extinction. I don't quite believe that, myself, and fight against it often, but I do see the possible disappearance, again no matter our achievements or attempts to see us as superior (and "more special", as is common with people who might be insecure, as one colony of ants would rightfully be if another colony of ants decided to move in with them for the winter, or one wolf pack with another, yada yada), sad, and, I'd prefer it not happen. It is only recently that such mass living together has been occurring, and you can't expect it to go over without tension.

I ordered a 23andme test, and am curious about my ancestry, and am interested if it has any surprises. Ultimately, again, I usually live and let live approach everything, and even my own children, they have their complete choice, and I would not "force anything upon them", but I hope that they would marry at least close to their race, to carry on our own diversity, and really prefer White people not be erased.

You can close this, if you wish. I knew I would be called an ignorant racist, and that would be that. People tend to get all butthurt over this.

And yes, I did forget the aboriginals. It wasn't ignorance, it was forgetfulness, to begin with (and then said, "well, yea") But I kind of doubt they were on a path to cure any diseases or create new life, or automate things, any time soon. I doubt they were on a path that could survive extinction, potentially, any time soon. Not that it makes it right, really, what we did, but I also don't want to cry about it and feel like we're guilty of anything like is all too common, because that's life. One side dominates the other. War brings about technological advancements, that help. The strong dominates the weak, and then it ends up helping. Humans, and our lineage, are the first to be able to care for the weak, like we do, on the level we do, as well.

 

[Bardeaux]

It's not Genocide in a sense that we usually associate it. It's more dissolving/blending, but in a sense, could be to the uniqueness of one "race".

I've been reading arguments made by White Nationalists against race mixing, and the amount of immigration into European countries by people of color, and from other countries.

I'm no geneticist, but if one race is "mixing" with another, wouldn't both races be undergoing a genocide if we're using this term? If a white man and a black woman have a child, which race is committing genocide on the other? It's a rather silly argument. We live in a global society now. Borders, races, and nationalities are becoming more and more irrelevant. Cultures are becoming intertwined and there's nothing you can do about it short of neo-nazi intervention.

When I think of England, I think of a nation where my ancestry is. Same with Germany and Ireland.

Which English culture? Or German, or Irish etc? All of these nations had separate and unique cultures at one point. Find me one person that has "pure" genes of any sort.

If you want to worry about someone, how long do redheads have before their traits disappear?

 

[socko]

Of all the things to get worked up about, you're upset about what color people's skin might be 20,000 years from now... And the fact that WEstern culture has dominated the global scene during the past 500 years is merely an accident of geography. "Whites" are not inherently superior to anyone else which is what it seems like you are trying to say. 23Skidoo.

 

[What 23]

^That has been said to be false. I also have a thing for red-heads, though. (Bardeaux)

In this case, it is the Whites that would be disappearing, as as stated in this scenario that is happening today there aren't mass immigrations of Whites to non-White countries, enough so that it is forecasted that those native countries will be diluted with White so much that the the natives are gone, but, there are many "non-Whites" entering White countries, and as well with that, having much higher birthrates than native Whites.

If Europe was moving to China en masse, China might face the same problem, eventually, and there might very well be people who react with the same, "Nationalist" ideas. I know that Japan probably would, if suddenly they were flooded with so many other colors. It doesn't make them ignorant mean evil bastards hell bent on not accepting the "global society". They just want separate homes to live in.

Socko- You don't have proof for that either way, and neither do I, precisely... But why are whites rated the most attractive people? Why do you see a whole lot more Black men with White women, than White men with Black women? Something to keep in mind here might be that Men are a lot more sight oriented than women, and care a lot more about the physical attractiveness, in general... If you want to continue that argument. It's not that I don't consider them attractive, just not so attractive, as much, in general. But that's just me, and apparently a great majority of White men, as well. I don't know. I don't really intend to make that an argument, but you don't know, either. Saying one race is not "superior" might be like saying we couldn't dominate or out-perform Homo Erectus, and considering Whites and other races outside of Africa (But European Whites mainly) do have different DNA in them, from another group of humans entirely (Neanderthal), how can you be so sure we're all just totally equal?

And its not just skin color. There are differences beyond that.

 

[fuc]

When I was a little girl I wanted to have babies with the darkest skinned man I could find so that one day everybody on earth could be the same color. I didn't think I'd live to see a time when being white was rare.
Now I'm a little xenophobic about it because being a minority intimidates me (grew up in very white places never been a minority) but at least I know I'm being ridiculous.
You should worry about what type of people are having and raising children (their personalities) because those projection pictures aren't showing you if the world is populated by morons or really good people. They look like good people though don't they?