Isis

[THECATINTHEHAT]

What will the outcome be? Will Maliki rally the country around to give these cunts some lead or will the Iraqi army continue to run from a group of hooligans in hiluxes?

Get your votes in now.

 

[Glowing aaron]

All things point to the break up of Iraq, i think ISIS will have to be stopped rather than stop on their own accord though.

 

[RLP]

All things point to the break up of Iraq, i think ISIS will have to be stopped rather than stop on their own accord though.

^^

ISIS will consolidate their gains using fighters drafted in from neighboring countries now that certain cities have fallen. Expect a similar situation to Syria in terms of civil war. That the Iraqi army have allowed this to happen given their substantial advantage both in terms of numbers and resources is nothing short of ridiculous.

I can't see any foreign led invasion of any sort either.

 

[Glowing aaron]

All that training and support from the most advanced military superpower in the world stood them in good stead.

 

[spacejunk]

There is a really good thread about this in CE&P

 

[pinkpapaver]

Strange how if you superimpose the letters ISIS on top of each other you get $

 

[parttime crackhead]

How does Islamic State of Iraq & Levant become ISIS anyway?

 

[Ismene]

Isis is an old Bob Dylan song as far as I'm concerned. I wish we'd let Saddam stay - he'dve sorted these cunts out in no time.

Can you believe they were all clamouring to bomb Assad and let Isis take over Syria?

 

[parttime crackhead]

Can you believe they were all clamouring to bomb Assad and let Isis take over Syria?

Yep.

The hypocrisy is mind boggling. The latest patter is "Iran are alright". Iran, the big bad bogeymen of the middle east, actually not that bad after all. We'll soon be told that Britain/The US never had a problem with Iran at all.

We have always been at war with Eurasia...

 

[ponch]

Can anyone explain to me in simple terms what the real beef is between Sunni and Shia sects of islam other than they believe in slightly different things, or is it really as simple as that?

I was watching a dispatch to Lebanon a couple of weeks ago where groups of Sunni and Alawites were fighting each other. The reported reason being Assad is an Alawite therefore they must all be his mates, so decided to shoot the shit out of them. It was quite strange to watch, the Alawite group were stood about chatting, smoking and drinking Heineken just waiting for some shit to kick off. They went to one of the faction leaders houses, you could see where people had been firing guns into his daughters bedroom window and stuff like that. They were still living in the house as well, fucking mental.

 

[spacejunk]

Isis is an old Bob Dylan song as far as I'm concerned. I wish we'd let Saddam stay - he'dve sorted these cunts out in no time.

Can you believe they were all clamouring to bomb Assad and let Isis take over Syria?

I keep thinking of Dylan when I hear/read it too!
And I agree about Saddam. Chickens coming home to roost and all that.

 

[Sammy G]

How does Islamic State of Iraq & Levant become ISIS anyway?

The Arabic name is Al-Dawla Al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham, which roughly translates to 'Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham', 'al-Sham' being the Arabic term for an area encompassing the Levant, among other territories. Hence ISIS and not ISIL.

I think.

 

[One Thousand Words]

I wish we'd let Saddam stay - he'dve sorted these cunts out in no time.

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I doubt it. Sad dam was a Sunni , and quite fond of beating the Shiite out of the other mob. Isis are remnants of the Sunni minority and are essentially they are made up of many of the disposed military generals of the old Iraqi regime. Throw in a few foreign extremists from around the globe and you have a handy well trained militia

I keep thinking of Dylan when I hear/read it too!
And I agree about Saddam. Chickens coming home to roost and all that.

You should watch the news and read the paper more

 

[spacejunk]

Paper? Television?
I leave that to saps like you, busty
If you don't understand how the "power vacuum" (caused by sacking the entire Iraqi army during the early days of the US occupation) has lead to these people taking over, there is little point joining the discussion.
Stick to your ballgames and TV.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Why? Do you think you are so weak of will that watching an ad or reading an opinion piece will brainwash you?

 

[spacejunk]

Weakness doesn't come into it. Critical thinking skills do.
Either way, you get your news from the corporate press, I choose not to.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Yet you stated that saddam would have sorted out the Isis. You may as well say hitler would have sorted out Austria's neo nazi problem

Critical analysis at its finest right there

 

[spacejunk]

I stated no such thing.
I agreed with Ismene's comment, because I do not think these fundamentalists would be making such ground in the presence of an Iraqi government defence/security apparatus that wasnt completely dismantled by the US led invasion.

The Ba'ath Party and ISIS are not one in the same. Stupid analogy.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Take it to Facebook toots

 

[spacejunk]

Lounge/Facebook - what's the difference?
Another highly intelligent post. Nice try though.