EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

[blondin]

you could carry on with your taper but as you have been on it for a relatively long time (you can do a 2 week taper) you will suffer a little because of the long 1/2 life of 'done. If you are on 20 now and comfortable IMO i would switch to bupe but try and get as low on the 'done as you can and try a x week taper from that - plus its alot easier to take a few pills with yoiu rather than juice unless you get the phy pills like me.Alternatively you could drop a 1ml a day and see how you get on.
couple of qusestions - how long are u going to the US for and do you want to quit or are you quiting for your travells - the reason i ask is the dope in NY is v Good and not hard to find SHOULD YOU WISH TO keep on the gear.
pm me if you want more precise info on tapering.

 

[brimz]

Go walk on a beach then! Back to the goodies..!

Serious ?

Good st gear still better though must be the sand ?

It is more likely the impurities that many like most as dm Hcl is not amazing at all even iv u need loads .

Most folk who were wiv Marks or in north wales that I kmow all say they were still scoring n skint even wiv those legendary tings

 

[kkattastic]

Good to see everyone still about. I've been tapering Off meth fairly rapidly with minimal Wds, surprisingly! at 10mg per week, now down to 20mg daily from 70 5 week's ago. My dw wants me to switch to subs on Tuesday, so no juice tomorrow but defo going to score.reason I'm tapering so fast is that I'm going abroad to NYC and us customs won't let you in with ORT. I leave in 3.5 wks.

My main question is do you think I am better switching to 8mgs sub and tapering from that, or just staying with meth n going 15ml, 10ml, 5ml, 2.5ml,,, Really appreciate any responses as this decision has been weighing heavily on my mind.

A good few years back,I had a mate who had got clean off done...but he said that you are fine until you get to those last few ml-then it all starts really bad.
I would def think bupe would be easier to get off
as has been said,depends a lot on your longer term plans

 

[opiaterock]

A good few years back,I had a mate who had got clean off done...but he said that you are fine until you get to those last few ml-then it all starts really bad.
I would def think bupe would be easier to get off
as has been said,depends a lot on your longer term plans

Ya I am a bit worried about this.. I'm doing good now totally stabilised on 35 ml but it scares me thinking of what would happen when I withdraw. I had been doing a bag one day p/w when I started the done and then every 2 weeks but I haven't bothered in a while now as it doesn't work you can't get stoned in my opinion when on done it just makes me tired anyway.

 

[5StarSquatHotel]

OpiateRock do you wish you had not started the script or are you happy being stable?

 

[gannetsarewe]

Ya I am a bit worried about this.. I'm doing good now totally stabilised on 35 ml but it scares me thinking of what would happen when I withdraw. I had been doing a bag one day p/w when I started the done and then every 2 weeks but I haven't bothered in a while now as it doesn't work you can't get stoned in my opinion when on done it just makes me tired anyway.

Crack boy, figured your were on the
s & n,.bad storey down at the river the other day.

 

[opiaterock]

OpiateRock do you wish you had not started the script or are you happy being stable?

No I'm really happy with my decision dark... really low sex drive is the worst side effect I think but that can get you into trouble as well haha

 

[opiaterock]

Crack boy, figured your were on the
s & n,.bad storey down at the river the other day.

Hey boy how are ya getting on... ya problems with the stink did you read the paper the other day. talk about a hatchet job, thinking of moving away for a while man it's getting a bit much there right now. Ya bad act I can't picture the guy but the boys said I'd definitely know him & by all accounts a nice guy

 

[kkattastic]

Hey boy how are ya getting on... ya problems with the stink did you read the paper the other day. talk about a hatchet job, thinking of moving away for a while man it's getting a bit much there right now. Ya bad act I can't picture the guy but the boys said I'd definitely know him & by all accounts a nice guy

Is this some local excitement and if so,can we all hear about it,pls?

 

[opiaterock]

OpiateRock do you wish you had not started the script or are you happy being stable?

Dark... although I said I am happy now that I am stable that is not to say methadone would be for every1. However I do think it is a misunderstood and sometimes unfairly demonized drug. I didnt have a daily habit more a twice weekly one before I went on it and I would have probably been able to stop for a few weeks or month but would have re-lapsed 100%, I was really just sick of living a hectic life where i was high for half the week and sick for the other half.. with the done I am just content all the time, never high and never sick - I have been able to make plans even in a personally quite turbulent time of my life.. I don't want to sound like a sales man for the drug but for some people like me it was definitely a good thing, I am worried about the withdrawl but I will deal with that when I have to cut down

 

[opiaterock]

Is this some local excitement and if so,can we all hear about it,pls?

Hey hey kkattastic, yes myself and gannets are from the same place somebody was stabbed by the river on Friday night / Saturday morning that's what he was referring to I think. I thought it was a drugs beef gone wrong but from what I heard yesterday would seem to contradict that. Anyway the guy is meant to be a really nice bloke, so thankfully he's stable in hospital was critical for a while

I said in reply that I am thinking of getting out of here but that's more for personal reasons!

 

[oxynorm]

So I started subs today 8mgs, weekly script. I feel on the whole ok now, but imho I prefer the sedation of meth. Going from 20mg done to 8mg subs was relatively easy, albeit I used 2bags yday when I didn't have any done. I actually felt about 20 mins of precipitated Wds after dosing. the initial withdrawal got ten times worse then just dissipated, I feel almost fine now, however Im kinda craving a bag. Is it worthwhile to buy one? I know due to bupes high mu affinity I'm unlikely to feel much, but elsewhere On Bl people have reported getting high. Or would I just be better Off taking an extra 2mg bupe to satisfy my cravings...

 

[kkattastic]

So I started subs today 8mgs, weekly script. I feel on the whole ok now, but imho I prefer the sedation of meth. Going from 20mg done to 8mg subs was relatively easy, albeit I used 2bags yday when I didn't have any done. I actually felt about 20 mins of precipitated Wds after dosing. the initial withdrawal got ten times worse then just dissipated, I feel almost fine now, however Im kinda craving a bag. Is it worthwhile to buy one? I know due to bupes high mu affinity I'm unlikely to feel much, but elsewhere On Bl people have reported getting high. Or would I just be better Off taking an extra 2mg bupe to satisfy my cravings...

Personally,I think that just sticking with it,allowing it to build up in your system,will stop the cravings.
IME,having a bag now will send you into w/d's,so worse than no effect.if you have the extra 2md subs spare,then maybe take that,but really,don't go out and score;you will live to regret it

 

[BecomingJulie]

I really haven't been doing myself any favours with the London Town lately. The stuff I'm getting just makes me want to sit up all night, occasionally nodding out for awhile and then not going to bed at any sane time. You can imagine what this is doing to my sleep patterns (I've been caught sleeping at work; how come nobody has spotted that I have a "drug problem" is a total mystery and I don't want to push it). And I'm sure this isn't making the comedown any better.

I need a bag, and am going to have one; but this time, I will try and get to bed at a sensible hour and get the sleep I need ..... I am going to stash a tiny amount by my bed to encourage me to decamp.

 

[blondin]

Personally,I think that just sticking with it,allowing it to build up in your system,will stop the cravings.
IME,having a bag now will send you into w/d's,so worse than no effect.if you have the extra 2md subs spare,then maybe take that,but really,don't go out and score;you will live to regret it

He wont go in to PWD's it just wont have any effect as the receptors will have the bupe attached - its the other way round you have to watch it i.e. gear in your system then taking bupe as it will knock off the gear and then put you in to PWD's

 

[Sammy G]

Am I being a dick if I sterilise and use an old rig that's been lying in a drawer for months, uncapped but unused?

I know it's not great HR but I'm too wobbly / idle to make it to even the nearest pharmacy right now, and the idea's nagging at me. Shall I just try to forget about it and get some fresh 'uns tomorrow?

 

[BigNasty]

Am I being a dick if I sterilise and use an old rig that's been lying in a drawer for months, uncapped but unused?

I know it's not great HR but I'm too wobbly / idle to make it to even the nearest pharmacy right now, and the idea's nagging at me. Shall I just try to forget about it and get some fresh 'uns tomorrow?

If it's still sharp, I'd use it, but I'm a bit of a dick as well.

 

[blondin]

ive used alot worse and survived its your call ..... when i was on 24-48h speedball/coke runs i use to slam the spike on the table so i had to stop, an hour later id pick them out the bin straighten them out and sharpen with a saftey match box and go at it. Give it a good clean and filter thro some hot water a few times but this is not good HR - like i said its your call.

 

[j.t]

I'm surprised you haven't killed yourself or given yourself some kind of phosphorus poisoning blondin.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

ive used alot worse and survived its your call ..... when i was on 24-48h speedball/coke runs i use to slam the spike on the table so i had to stop, an hour later id pick them out the bin straighten them out and sharpen with a saftey match box and go at it. Give it a good clean and filter thro some hot water a few times but this is not good HR - like i said its your call.

Yeah, I used to do the old 'sharpening on a matchbox' trick. Totally bad HR.. I also used to break open the sharpsafe box and go through all the old, clogged up rigs to find the sharpest ones. I guess it's too late now as you probably did the deed last night, but I would recommend soaking in bleach for 10 minutes or so then flushing through with lots of hot water first..