Seattle_Stranger
Bluelighter
I know there are probably plenty of kava trip reports out there, as well as kanna and kratom, but not a ton about them combined. There is a plethora of folks who will attest to the synergy of them as well as cannabis, but I don't see a whole lot of actual reports about the effects. So, I'm simply adding to the great cloud of data so hopefully someone can use it.
TD;DR - Had kratom and very potent cannabis edible earlier in the day, cannabis edible was wearing off at time of kava/kanna ingestion, so I was feeling a bit anxious and weird. ~1hr after kava/kanna, strong waves of euphoria felt, but anxiety occasionally pokes through, slight nausea. Bowl of cannabis and walk ~2hrs after ingestion was best decision ever, felt incredible after. Second cup of kava/kanna brought back euphoria, slept fantastic, woke up great. No after effects. Moral of the story: If you can stomach it, ingest kratom, kava, kanna and cannabis all at once and then treat yourself to a delicious meal. DO NOT drink alcohol with kava.
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I'm very experienced with all of these compounds. I use ~8g kratom twice every day, sometimes with a pinch of ~300mg powdered kanna. I have also used kava tons of times on and off, never habitually though. All three are effective, subtle and gentle on their own, and quite synergistic together in any combination. Recently I purchased myself a proper kava ceremony kit from a local kava bar, and some of this allegedly very special, very potent, limited time offer kava known as "Nambawan". I tried a few of their other strains and was impressed, so I figured why not try the one they call special. I had this kava a couple of times before I wrote this trip report, with very positive, potent results.
It was a calm Tuesday after work, nothing on the agenda. I had a dose of 8g kratom at about 4pm, it is now ~8:30pm. I had a cannabis edible in the morning, which was mostly subsided by now, but in retrospect I think it may have been causing a bit of the anxiety I was feeling.
I started by simply pouring an eyeballed ~1 cup's worth of Nambawan kava into a mason jar and also added a hefty ~1g pinch of kanna, filled it with a minimal amount of warm water, a little bit of half and half, and some chocolate syrup. I shook and stirred for a while, and then remembered my lady had a blender, so I busted that out, poured the mixture in, and blended it for ~5 minutes. I then poured the blended mixture into my strainer bag which was sitting in a bowl, and I began to knead the liquid out of the kava powder inside the bag. I did this for about 5 minutes until I could not squeeze any more liquid out of the bag. I set the bag aside for a second wash later.
I poured the liquid from the bowl into a cup, gave it a good stir and just pounded it before I had a chance to think about it too much, and chased it with a swig of Gatorade and a potato chip. Effects started becoming apparent about a half hour later, first the kanna, then the kava a bit later. I noticed a wave of stimulation, colors got more saturated and my vision got sharper (classic kanna effect). I also noticed my legs getting 'rubbery', I began to feel very relaxed but alert, a very subtle body buzzing akin to alcohol and perhaps a slight decrease in motor control but not enough to say I couldn't drive a car (though I wouldn't and didn't). I felt slightly nauseous but not terribly uncomfortable.
The interesting part was the strong waves of euphoria that kept coming, similar to a perfectly-dosed kratom euphoria, possibly even stronger. I kept getting that 'everything is alright with the world' type feelings, kept feeling compelled to repeatedly tell my lady sitting next to me that I love her, etc.. These very enjoyable feelings were unfortunately coupled with returning rushes of that anxiety I was feeling earlier. Again, in retrospect, I think it may have been from the cannabis treat I ate in the morning that was VERY strong and was wearing off leaving me feeling weirdly anxious. Next time, I 'll save the treat to have WITH the kanna and kava.
The euphoria got more and more pronounced and eventually outweighed the anxiety about ~2 hours after I downed my first cup. I started getting a bit nauseous so I smoked a bowl of cannabis and went for a walk, and that rounded the entire experience out, nearly obliterating the anxiety. When I returned home and sat on the couch, my body was buzzing as if I had just had a great workout. My pupils were very dilated, a normal effect of kanna but potentiated by the kava. Colors were very saturated and I was seeing subtle tracers, all effects almost identical to the onset of psilocybin mushrooms, which kanna reliably gives (I really ponder about this). The anxiety began to return about an hour or so after that, so I made another cup using the remaining grinds from earlier (that had been steeping in water this whole time) and downed it. About an hour later, the euphoria and stimulation returned and outweighed the anxiety for a bit again, I smoked more cannabis, and went to bed. Slept better than usual, woke up feeling fantastic. My skin is a bit dry but no other signs of a hangover or anything like that. The anxiety I was feeling yesterday is completely gone.
I need to make a day where I do not use kratom or cannabis in the morning, and I try to stomach kava, kanna, kratom and a cannabis edible all at once. If I could somehow get all of those alkaloids into one, singular consumable, like a brownie or something, I could probably die happy. I love that these are all legal, natural, effective and very safe alternatives to hard narcotics and alcohol. Nothing is completely benign, this is obvious. Using my own personal experience as proof, the safety profile of these active plants far exceeds that of other popular street drugs and pharms. Who doesn't enjoy a percocet or two or 18, maybe some xanax on top? I just know how I feel after a binge on that stuff as opposed to a binge on kratom and kava, that's all.
Thanks for reading!
TD;DR - Had kratom and very potent cannabis edible earlier in the day, cannabis edible was wearing off at time of kava/kanna ingestion, so I was feeling a bit anxious and weird. ~1hr after kava/kanna, strong waves of euphoria felt, but anxiety occasionally pokes through, slight nausea. Bowl of cannabis and walk ~2hrs after ingestion was best decision ever, felt incredible after. Second cup of kava/kanna brought back euphoria, slept fantastic, woke up great. No after effects. Moral of the story: If you can stomach it, ingest kratom, kava, kanna and cannabis all at once and then treat yourself to a delicious meal. DO NOT drink alcohol with kava.
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I'm very experienced with all of these compounds. I use ~8g kratom twice every day, sometimes with a pinch of ~300mg powdered kanna. I have also used kava tons of times on and off, never habitually though. All three are effective, subtle and gentle on their own, and quite synergistic together in any combination. Recently I purchased myself a proper kava ceremony kit from a local kava bar, and some of this allegedly very special, very potent, limited time offer kava known as "Nambawan". I tried a few of their other strains and was impressed, so I figured why not try the one they call special. I had this kava a couple of times before I wrote this trip report, with very positive, potent results.
It was a calm Tuesday after work, nothing on the agenda. I had a dose of 8g kratom at about 4pm, it is now ~8:30pm. I had a cannabis edible in the morning, which was mostly subsided by now, but in retrospect I think it may have been causing a bit of the anxiety I was feeling.
I started by simply pouring an eyeballed ~1 cup's worth of Nambawan kava into a mason jar and also added a hefty ~1g pinch of kanna, filled it with a minimal amount of warm water, a little bit of half and half, and some chocolate syrup. I shook and stirred for a while, and then remembered my lady had a blender, so I busted that out, poured the mixture in, and blended it for ~5 minutes. I then poured the blended mixture into my strainer bag which was sitting in a bowl, and I began to knead the liquid out of the kava powder inside the bag. I did this for about 5 minutes until I could not squeeze any more liquid out of the bag. I set the bag aside for a second wash later.
I poured the liquid from the bowl into a cup, gave it a good stir and just pounded it before I had a chance to think about it too much, and chased it with a swig of Gatorade and a potato chip. Effects started becoming apparent about a half hour later, first the kanna, then the kava a bit later. I noticed a wave of stimulation, colors got more saturated and my vision got sharper (classic kanna effect). I also noticed my legs getting 'rubbery', I began to feel very relaxed but alert, a very subtle body buzzing akin to alcohol and perhaps a slight decrease in motor control but not enough to say I couldn't drive a car (though I wouldn't and didn't). I felt slightly nauseous but not terribly uncomfortable.
The interesting part was the strong waves of euphoria that kept coming, similar to a perfectly-dosed kratom euphoria, possibly even stronger. I kept getting that 'everything is alright with the world' type feelings, kept feeling compelled to repeatedly tell my lady sitting next to me that I love her, etc.. These very enjoyable feelings were unfortunately coupled with returning rushes of that anxiety I was feeling earlier. Again, in retrospect, I think it may have been from the cannabis treat I ate in the morning that was VERY strong and was wearing off leaving me feeling weirdly anxious. Next time, I 'll save the treat to have WITH the kanna and kava.
The euphoria got more and more pronounced and eventually outweighed the anxiety about ~2 hours after I downed my first cup. I started getting a bit nauseous so I smoked a bowl of cannabis and went for a walk, and that rounded the entire experience out, nearly obliterating the anxiety. When I returned home and sat on the couch, my body was buzzing as if I had just had a great workout. My pupils were very dilated, a normal effect of kanna but potentiated by the kava. Colors were very saturated and I was seeing subtle tracers, all effects almost identical to the onset of psilocybin mushrooms, which kanna reliably gives (I really ponder about this). The anxiety began to return about an hour or so after that, so I made another cup using the remaining grinds from earlier (that had been steeping in water this whole time) and downed it. About an hour later, the euphoria and stimulation returned and outweighed the anxiety for a bit again, I smoked more cannabis, and went to bed. Slept better than usual, woke up feeling fantastic. My skin is a bit dry but no other signs of a hangover or anything like that. The anxiety I was feeling yesterday is completely gone.
I need to make a day where I do not use kratom or cannabis in the morning, and I try to stomach kava, kanna, kratom and a cannabis edible all at once. If I could somehow get all of those alkaloids into one, singular consumable, like a brownie or something, I could probably die happy. I love that these are all legal, natural, effective and very safe alternatives to hard narcotics and alcohol. Nothing is completely benign, this is obvious. Using my own personal experience as proof, the safety profile of these active plants far exceeds that of other popular street drugs and pharms. Who doesn't enjoy a percocet or two or 18, maybe some xanax on top? I just know how I feel after a binge on that stuff as opposed to a binge on kratom and kava, that's all.
Thanks for reading!
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