speed (phet sulphate) alts in uk

[walwal]

Yeah eats through bags, absolutely stinks, most of what ive had has been like that. dry-ish stuff once

That's exactly what you want..that's exactly wat I want like right now! my dealer lives like 2 doors away in Amsterdam, my ex even has shiploads and she doesn't even fuckin do it, I've found it in burger king before... Now I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere chatting about it on the internet..proper frustrating..there must be a child in this street with ADHD or something, lol.

 

[ColtDan]

Haha wish i had some now as well, a 100mg bomb would do me nicely

 

[Shambles]

That's just wet that's been well evaporated..

No, no it isn't. "Base paste" is just sulphate powder that's had solvents added (often just water but that is actually a solvent and probably for the best that's the most commonly used one - isopropyl alcohol stings a tad more so you pay a premium but I wouldn't recommend it myself). It would seem you don't quite know of which you speak. I'm sure you'll find speed to suit you just fine here

Yeah that stuff wasn't great, I'm well aware you couldn't put away an eighth of good speed IV in that time and live.

The powder speed comment was with regards to what's about these days. I've never had powdered speed that was halfway decent anyway.

It has been a good 20-odd years since powder was worth buying to be sure but it was blinding quality at the time and a helluva lot better than any paste I've had aside from those first couple years of "base". Obviously I wasn't referring to IVing eighths at a time but I would personally say that if a gramme doesn't have you rushing like you've never rushed before for 5-7 days at least it's not up to scratch. Speed is one drug I am truly snobby about and have no shame in that. Anybody who's had the properly good stuff would say the same. Speed is an incredible drug when it's right but it's so rarely right it's gotten a shitty reputation so bad even people selling it can't be fukked to source any worth having cos they know people will buy drek anyway. If people were just that bit more discerning it could still make a comeback. As things stand we'll be getting drek for some time yet.

And just to make clear one more time, I do completely accept other people may get better quality than I've been able to over the last 15y or so. It's certainly not widespread if that is the case though or I would've at least managed a sniff of summat worthy of the name surely?

 

[Mental Kenny]

Fuck yeah the polish thing is no joke, they're the source of all the good speed in europe.

And the Czech too, don't forget them


I got two batches over christmast holiday, one was so bad I won't even comment on it(3 grams in one night), the other supposedly from a slavic contact was much much better, very wet, pinkish, a bit hard on the nose but it did the job it was supposed to do.

Shame now all that's available it's the first type.

 

[walwal]

No, no it isn't. "Base paste" is just sulphate powder that's had solvents added (often just water but that is actually a solvent and probably for the best that's the most commonly used one - isopropyl alcohol stings a tad more so you pay a premium but I wouldn't recommend it myself). It would seem you don't quite know of which you speak. I'm sure you'll find speed to suit you just fine here

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

And just to make clear one more time, I do completely accept other people may get better quality than I've been able to over the last 15y or so. It's certainly not widespread if that is the case though or I would've at least managed a sniff of summat worthy of the name surely?

I don't have the base for comparison you do unfortunately, but even from the experience base I have the really good stuff is rare as fuck. The two scores I mentioned earlier in the thread were of that 'gram has you buzzing for days on end' quality, but I've come across that literally twice.

Word is the dark web entails pretty easy access to that quality but I don't use it.

 

[Shambles]

As I mentioned earlier, I do know I was spoiled and there's a good chance I'll never come across speed as good as that again. Was a unique situation but surely if it can be that good there's no reason it couldn't still be? Back when "base" first started it was actually freebase amphetamine which has not been the case for a very long time (sulphate cut with solvent now as mentioned). It was the actual oil originally and had to be very heavily cut with lactose or whatever to make it feasible for most punters. To this day it's the only time I've had drugs given back to me and been asked to cut them more cos it's too much. You've not lived till you've IV'd pure freebase oil

I keed, I keed. Don't do that (as if anybody could even if they wanted to 8)). It's nasty stuff but lawdy is it potent

 

[walwal]

We call it base, maybe thats just a name like the yanks call crytal meth-speed. I see bricks of it in holland regularly, i know the difference between good and bad batches..

Just cos they stopped making good stuff here doesnt mean to say it shit everywhere else. Ive lived in Europe for 10 years, theres a huge market for it there and i dont think i would be happy with the stuff here at all..

When theres none about wud hit pretty much hit anythin similar to surpress craving (its habitual, not recreational) and as long as it fucks with your dopamine and doesnt just keep you awake.

Im not a chemist and dont make it either but good speed imo is damp but not too wet, sometimes slightly grainy, stinks & sweats and burns like fuck when you sniff it. very clean buzz until youve been awake for a few days then u start spacing and eventually everyone is talking jibberish and laughing hysterically. When you do actually sleep your still rushing the next day, sometimes even for a couple of days. beer or red bull will pick you up even further and also no comedowns or lack of (but the comedowns might just be me cos i never actually give myself time too..but i dont think so)

If i can get speed like that here then im happy..but doesnt sound like i will. Sounds like the speed in europe is what you used to get here to me, I hear that most drugs here are shit & overpriced tbh. I do a lot and have for a long time ad know good and bad, the stuff over there you wouldnt disagree with I guarantee..ive heard uk tourists say similar about pretty much everything over there speed, coke the lot.

But i reckon the odds r aginst scoring anythin round here-Does that eph stuff just keep you awake and alert? cos thats not wat i need, im already awake and alert naturally..it has to flick my dopamine like good billy does..

 

[ColtDan]

Gotta love a nice dopamine buzz

 

[walwal]

UK speed has clearly made you lose your faith..You definately can get very good clean speed in 2014. And what do all the squatters, rastas and hippy types do over here, in my experience theyre usually bang into it..and you can often rely on them..what do they do??

 

[Shambles]

We call it base, maybe thats just a name like the yanks call crytal meth-speed.

It is just a name for it - amphetamine freebase is a volatile oil and is not suitable for distribution on a large scale cos it just isn't practical. In several ways.

Just cos they stopped making good stuff here doesnt mean to say it shit everywhere else.

I quite agree but that wasn't the question - you asked what the score was in the UK and it is how you read: patchy at best (and I really do mean at best ).

Im not a chemist and dont make it either but good speed imo is damp but not too wet, sometimes slightly grainy, stinks & sweats and burns like fuck when you sniff it.

That would depend on what you mean by speed. It "should" be dry and not sting and not smell too much. That is speed as most would think of it - sulphate. If it is damp, stinks and burns it's probably sulphate cut with some solvent or other. Often just water to pad out the weight (and also cos it evaporates slower than many solvents so keeps the weight up longer down the chain... although gets made moister every step of the way, naturally). Freebase itself will only ever be available direct from a chemist with little or no middleman action in between cos it simply will not last long enough to get any further. It needs to be converted to a salt to make it stable. That is when it is dry, virtually odourless (you can still smell that petty smell but it certainly don't stink by any means) and really doesn't sting at all - that would be cut of some description. I think people got the idea that "base" should stink and burn and be wet from back when it actually was base - that was a very long time ago and it never did take off. I think the notion that it should resemble cut freebase just stuck in the memory for people and word spread that that was what "proper speed" should be like. Just one of those oddities of history is all.

Does that eph stuff just keep you awake and alert?

Yup. It's joyless but it is speedy. Pure dopamine - no serotonin action to speak of so not much like actual speed which I'd generally think of as a more balanced thing (still very heavy on the former though for sure). It's much like Ritalin by all accounts. I've never had methylphenidate but have had plenty of DARIs (is that the right name? DRIs perhaps - dopamine reuptake stuffs as opposed to more general stimulant things - chemistry never was my thing so I'm sure somebody can correct me) and it is very much along those lines rather than what I think of as speed... but lotsa stuff gets called speed - tis a generic name. It will keep you awake and it will have you fiending and it will have you obsessing. It's not much fun though to be honest. I'd still pick it over any "street speed" I've had in years though.

Sounds like the speed in europe is what you used to get here to me, I hear that most drugs here are shit & overpriced tbh.

That would be correct.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

UK speed has clearly made you lose your faith..You definately can get very good clean speed in 2014. And what do all the squatters, rastas and hippy types do over here, in my experience theyre usually bang into it..and you can often rely on them..what do they do??

Ketamine...but that's gone up the spout over the last few years.

 

[walwal]

Gotta love a nice dopamine buzz

Without that buzz its pointless for me and not speed. Need to do somethin quick tho..been rinsing the budget red bulls and i am in no doubt that the espresso machine in the kitchen feels completely violated..staying awake is not the issue..

This site is probably quite good for abstainance and recovery to be honest. Ive spent that long on here chatting fraff about it,. I could have flown back to Holland, got pure loaded then come back to finish my holiday lol

 

[ColtDan]

Without that buzz its pointless for me and not speed.

Likewise

 

[walwal]

amphetamine freebase is a volatile oil and is not suitable for distribution on a large scale cos it just isn't practical.

it is quite oily sometimes, sometimes quite hard to dry, sometimes dries relatively quick (naturally dried) really depends but always really really good (obviously occasionally shit, but still does more than the job). im convinced its as good as youll get anywhere..were definately not talking about stuff you get here. The water is good for weight and price and rippin people off, I get it pretty early in the chain also..

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Amphetamine freebase is an oil like the stuff you use for cooking and will never 'dry'.

 

[walwal]

I reckon that eph will do till i get back by the sound of it, im not plannin to smash it anyway..but heres that question again...do most headshops stock it? and whats this methylphenidate by the way? I also like a balance, would that be a better substitute.

I guarantee after all this about the EPH ill actually end up walking into a headshop and someone in there ll hook me up with the real thing..but do most stock the drugs??

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Methylphenidate is the prescription drug Ritalin used for treatment of ADHD.

 

[walwal]

Amphetamine freebase is an oil like the stuff you use for cooking and will never 'dry'.

Yeah like i said sometimes its a nightmare, some of it often stays damp and although u can still sniff it its difficult to line up and not smooth at all, a lot of waste but you end up fuckin baked..often looks a fair bit like ur photo earlier..any of the types were talkin about are far from shit..

if i can get that here then I ll make the effort to look around..but is the stuff you had there normal or like a delicacy in the UK, cos thats looks normal to me? Ive never done speed in UK ever..

 

[walwal]

Methylphenidate is the prescription drug Ritalin used for treatment of ADHD.

That would do I reckon, but I aint even got a doctor here, so thats that one out..