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Heroin Dont understand...??

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fizzymk

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OK, Im a little confused, I picked up about a gram of H from my regular source few days ago, it was really good, I managed to make it last 2 days, so I decided to pick up another 1.5 gram last night, but this stuff seemed weaker? I know its the same batch as I had prior.

Surely my tolerance would not go up within 3 days...right?

I should mention I snorted and smoked it...when I got home I put about a match head size on foil, it was strong, as I could taste how bitter it was, but to get a good nodding high, I had to fire up about (6) match head sized pieces, did this over about an hour...I was feeling pretty good and had slight nodding, but was not as strong as the stuff I picked up prior...?

This was a big rock too, no powder, so I dont think my source is cutting it.
 
You said you know its the same batch prior.
Then go on to say this was. Big rock too no powder, so I don't think my source is cutting it.


Think about it man
 
Anybody can rerock powder. Even if he says it's the same batch, he might have no clue. Often street dealers have no idea what they are really getting, as they are so far down on the totem pole. The dope changes hands multiple times before it reaches your guy, and even if he doesn't cut it himself, there's a good chance even the guy he gets it from, doesn't know it's a different batch.

That being said, if it's only marginally weaker, it could very well just be your tolerance, as it goes up very quickly.

Two things that are things you can always count on when you're using.. 1. The batches change and you'll get great dope one day and shit the next. and 2. Your tolerance skyrockets.

That's just the name of the game. Nothing should surprise you.
 
Tolerance goes up way faster when you use throughout the day on consecutive days. That's partially because re-dosing isn't that effective so you end up doing a lot more than you would typically need to get high if you have enough to keep doing it all day. Also if you are feeling a bit of a heroin hangover the day after getting really high then it will be harder to get as high that day.
 
Im thinking it is my tolerance, the dope still took all my methadone w/d symptoms away and no aches or pains, but having trouble getting to the nod. I did talk to my source, they say if Im not satisfied they will make it right, but I dont really want to take advantage of that, I know that will only cost them money and I dont want to be seen as a nuisance.

Regarding Capt. heroins post...I have never come across dope that strong! I have a few sources that I have used in the past years and generally, for the most part, most of the time, the dope is roughly the same in regards to strength, but its possible it is all coming from the same source I guess..?

The only other thing I could try is start to bang it instead of snort/smoking it, but I really dont want to go down that path, I have shot it before, but long ago, I remember how good it was though.

I really wish I could get control of my methadone use, if I could take it like it is scripted, I would have no problems, but I can never do it, as soon as I get the bottle, Im taking them like candy, but I guess that is what addiction is all about.
 
fizzymk said:
The only other thing I could try is start to bang it instead of snort/smoking it, but I really dont want to go down that path, I have shot it before, but long ago, I remember how good it was though.
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Yeah IV'ing is definitely not the solution. Yes, you'll need a lot less in the beginning to get high, etc, but then pretty soon your tolerance will sky rocket even further, and you'll be doing twice the amount you were doing previously, on top of now having all the complications and dangers involved with IV'ing.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
A gram lasted you 2 days?

It was weak.

I would cop a half gram and make it last 4 days for 2 people

Just saying ... And heroin is not worth it. Please stop while you're ahead.
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I'm sorry Captain I am certainly not meaning to question you , I do believe you but wow. 1 bag here in the UK is .2 so half a gram would be 2 1/2 bags. You can make that last 4 days for 2 people?? That must be some amazing stuff!!! Jeez. I struggle to make a 1.6 (teenth) grams last me 2 days... And I don't normally do any more than a bag(.2) at a time....again,WOW.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
A gram lasted you 2 days?

It was weak.

I would cop a half gram and make it last 4 days for 2 people

Just saying ... And heroin is not worth it. Please stop while you're ahead.
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I think it's due to them using it all day. For example if I cop at night and get 4 bags (pretty small here so lets say it weighs .3 at the most) I will be really high and nod myself to sleep. On the other hand, if I were to cop a bundle during the day and do those same 4 bags, if it's wearing off at all I can keep adding a bag to it without feeling much more (which is why I say that redosing is pointless) and I can go through twice as much throughout the day while not really getting any higher. That especially happens when the first dose isn't enough to get me that high, and I wait a little to long to do more which then turns into chasing a high I won't be catching.

That's why I prefer to use at night and only have on me the amount I normally need to get really high. Otherwise I end up jacking my tolerance up a bunch with little in return, but as long as I take a break and/or ojnly use enough to keep the withdrawals away it will go back down in a few days so I only need 4 bags to get me where I want to be again, which is how after all these years of using my tolerance has stayed below a half gram to get as high as I want, and under .2 to maintain.

The other key is to space your use out to 24 hour intervals (obviously for those who are already dependent on opiates) with a bag in between if you get too sick to wait.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
A gram lasted you 2 days?

It was weak.

I would cop a half gram and make it last 4 days for 2 people

Just saying ... And heroin is not worth it. Please stop while you're ahead.
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Holy shit I could never have the self restraint to make a gram last me that long and for 2 people!? When I first started I would do a quarter point of some pebs (expensive close to pure rock heroin) a couple times a day then when is tarted selling it I was doing a half gram at a time 4 times a day. My buddy did a whole gram of next to pure China white all the time in one shot. Never would have believed a person could live doing that much at once I've heard of people dying from a single stamp bag but I guess if your jacking your tolerance up that high you can keep going up until your body finally just stops working.

For the OP I think he gave you different dope like what was said dope can be pressed by lower level dealers I used to get an 8 ball one day of killa strong bitter tasting dope then 3 days later pick up again and it looks the same he says it the same but its cut more and burns up quicker and doesn't have a strong taste to it.
 
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Yup... I've gotta agree with the Capt'n. Not just because I've read, verified & confirmed a lot of what he's said/posted since I've become interested in this forum - but because I FIRMLY BELIEVE that he's got just about as much PERSONAL experience & as much intellectual competency as ANY seriously concerned individual, in the rehabilitation & recovery of the more unfortunate, and habitually addicted individual, then I've EVER personally met!
My personal hero's of this forum is the Capt'n(H) & trainspotter!!!!!!
Hahaha... Without those two amazing individuals - I'd NEVER hav registered with this forum. Haha, these two personal hero's of mine have (to what I believe) given me the strength & wisdom to become better then I am now (& especially for the sake of my teenage son) & will be forevermore grateful for the inspiration that they've sparked within my own life. & another person(s) to seek advice & support from would ultimately have to be "Evey" **& "comfortablynumb"** (pls see my own "recent" introductory post for more details, if needed). These people (among MANY others) will undoubtedly guide you through the many typical trials & tribulations of the "average newbie" ;) ~ LoL

Love, peace & Aloha for all,
~ N3f

Danngitt.... Sorry, but I'm a bit preoccupied with fam stuff going on ATM, but actually meant to say:
** BOTH** Evey & <Comfortablynumb>. Both of these genuinely honest & good hearted people are soo willing to help us new guys & gals that it's just a wonderfully awesome thing. I'm sure you'll find the right people to talk to, but the Capt'n, trainspotter, Evey & Comfy are, in my opinion the best you could get to know & depend on. Best of luck & hope on your journey to a better life. I never thought it was a plausible journey to partake upon - until I'd had read some of the things they were saying :)

As always, the best of luck, hope & Aloha to you......
~ N3f
 
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N3fari0us said:
Yup... I've gotta agree with the Capt'n. Not just because I've read, verified & confirmed a lot of what he's said/posted since I've become interested in this forum - but because I FIRMLY BELIEVE that he's got just about as much PERSONAL experience & as much intellectual competency as ANY seriously concerned individual, in the rehabilitation & recovery of the more unfortunate, and habitually addicted individual, then I've EVER personally met!
My personal hero's of this forum is the Capt'n(H) & trainspotter!!!!!!
Hahaha... Without those two amazing individuals - I'd NEVER hav registered with this forum. Haha, these two personal hero's of mine have (to what I believe) given me the strength & wisdom to become better then I am now (& especially for the sake of my teenage son) & will be forevermore grateful for the inspiration that they've sparked within my own life. & another person(s) to seek advice & support from would ultimately have to be "Evey" **& "comfortablynumb"** (pls see my own "recent" introductory post for more details, if needed). These people (among MANY others) will undoubtedly guide you through the many typical trials & tribulations of the "average newbie" ;) ~ LoL

Love, peace & Aloha for all,
~ N3f

Danngitt.... Sorry, but I'm a bit preoccupied with fam stuff going on ATM, but actually meant to say:
** BOTH** Evey & <Comfortablynumb>. Both of these genuinely honest & good hearted people are soo willing to help us new guys & gals that it's just a wonderfully awesome thing. I'm sure you'll find the right people to talk to, but the Capt'n, trainspotter, Evey & Comfy are, in my opinion the best you could get to know & depend on. Best of luck & hope on your journey to a better life. I never thought it was a plausible journey to partake upon - until I'd had read some of the things they were saying :)

As always, the best of luck, hope & Aloha to you......
~ N3f
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Thank you very much my friend its nice to see some people are learning from my experiences already that really is swell I enjoy helping people out.
They are nice people too Evey helps out in NMI a lot making people feel welcome I'm sure she would be happy to see that as would comfortably numb:)
 
Hehe, what can I say...
Trainspotter, YOU ROCK! I was beginning to think joining ANY forum wouldn't be a beneficial thing for me. Hearing about your own personal journey has sparked a new life into me. To the point of just now finishing a 2.5mile run with my ever-loving companion greyhound: Lani~girl (1st time we've gone that far in over 5years!). So I guess you could say that the BOTH of us appreciate you .. Reeaally appreciate you (as my Lani~girl is very happily panting after a nice long run).
I wish only the best in life to ya TrainSpotter! From me & my family to you & yours.... You truly are one of the "good guys"!!!
 
Thank you :) that made my day I was having a shitty day too at work just so overworked today its the busy season now so thanks for that pick me up:)

Oh thats sweet well your welcome ;) haha
I like to take my dog for hikes and new places with a buddy just exploring. I got a cocker spaniel cross. I don't run very far though yet hahaha only started getting active again outside of work after going for so long where I work 11 hours doing a hit of heroin every 2 hours high as hell then come hone and do even more and nod out then wake up slumped over with a sore back and do some more head back to work and do it all over.
Its only now that I'm going to the gym getting buff and walking more often cause im on suboxone.
 
well, sort of an update, I copped another gram just an hour ago, got home and fired up a point and soon as I took the smoke down into my lungs, I got that throw up feeling, it tastes very bitter and strong, I dont think its the same stuff tho, it looks identical, but was alot softer, but that may have been due to the weather and the fact the girl had the little baggie in her bra, and it was about 90 degrees, so I dont know if dope subject to heat and humidity ends up softer or what, but Im happy...hopefully this will last me 2 days, if it doesnt get me as high tomorrow as it is tonight, I will know for sure it is my tolerance.
 
N3fari0us said:
Yup... I've gotta agree with the Capt'n. Not just because I've read, verified & confirmed a lot of what he's said/posted since I've become interested in this forum - but because I FIRMLY BELIEVE that he's got just about as much PERSONAL experience & as much intellectual competency as ANY seriously concerned individual, in the rehabilitation & recovery of the more unfortunate, and habitually addicted individual, then I've EVER personally met!
My personal hero's of this forum is the Capt'n(H) & trainspotter!!!!!!
Hahaha... Without those two amazing individuals - I'd NEVER hav registered with this forum. Haha, these two personal hero's of mine have (to what I believe) given me the strength & wisdom to become better then I am now (& especially for the sake of my teenage son) & will be forevermore grateful for the inspiration that they've sparked within my own life. & another person(s) to seek advice & support from would ultimately have to be "Evey" **& "comfortablynumb"** (pls see my own "recent" introductory post for more details, if needed). These people (among MANY others) will undoubtedly guide you through the many typical trials & tribulations of the "average newbie" ;) ~ LoL

Love, peace & Aloha for all,
~ N3f

Danngitt.... Sorry, but I'm a bit preoccupied with fam stuff going on ATM, but actually meant to say:
** BOTH** Evey & <Comfortablynumb>. Both of these genuinely honest & good hearted people are soo willing to help us new guys & gals that it's just a wonderfully awesome thing. I'm sure you'll find the right people to talk to, but the Capt'n, trainspotter, Evey & Comfy are, in my opinion the best you could get to know & depend on. Best of luck & hope on your journey to a better life. I never thought it was a plausible journey to partake upon - until I'd had read some of the things they were saying :)

As always, the best of luck, hope & Aloha to you......
~ N3f
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oh man, that's sweet, you totally brightened up my day :)
I'm so glad to know that I'm helping people here on BL have a better life...
much, much love and have awesome day <3
 
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