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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Four

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SummaThatGoodShit said:
This substance is, as previously stated, A GEM!!!

Unbelievably clean, and has an extremely interesting, almost "ancient" feeling to it, which I love.

Virtually nonexistent bodyload, which Is a huge bonus. I would likely recommend this substance for a psych-newb because the d/r curve is mostly forgiving IME, and it's just so.... clean!

I do however, have a VERY strong urge to just megadose 4-ACO-DMT, because it just seems like a substance conducive to extreme tripping practices. I've used 50mg at once, and It was very intense, but exactly what I was looking for. I was at an indoor music festival too, what a ride, man. Excellent. I had some of the most beautiful, calligraphic, intricate visuals of my life.


.....have to try 70mg next I think.....:|
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I LOVE megadosing this chemical! I did 100mg once. Most intense and amazing psychedelic experience I've ever had.

At that level, I couldn't really see anything because my vision, my senses, became my mind..

My thoughts had spatial dimension!

It all came in waves, each feeling like hours when in reality were only probably a few minutes.

I have asthma so I unfortunately encountered breathing problems. If you do this, drink a lot of water.

I wrote a trip report here if you're interested.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19888171

At the eight hour, It felt like I did 60mg of this chemical, tripping harder than I have ever before, and then I went to sleep. I wasn't really thinking about how hard I was tripping because I was so involved in the experience.
But if at 8 hours I could tell I was tripping REALLY hard, I don't know how to describe what it was like at the peak.

If I knew I could do it without physical problems that are specific to me, I would probably do this dose every time I trip. I didn't find any of it mentally scary. It's so intense its pretty much impossible to reject it.
 
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It seems like 4-AcO-DMT is easier to push up to high doses than magic mushrooms are. Would you folks who've pushed it up to the 80mg+ range agree with that?

I find people tend to get scared and weird on high doses of mushrooms (myself included), but reports here suggest that people tend to find 4-AcO-DMT to be forgiving at the upper end. Just wondering if that's because all y'all are super hardheads or hardened psychonauts, or if you'd agree that 4-AcO-DMT seems to be a gentler substance at high doses.
 
would 15mg IM be godly? or would I have to push the dosage a little higher? I'm looking for a portal to the center of the universe...
 
perpetualdawn said:
It seems like 4-AcO-DMT is easier to push up to high doses than magic mushrooms are. Would you folks who've pushed it up to the 80mg+ range agree with that?

I find people tend to get scared and weird on high doses of mushrooms (myself included), but reports here suggest that people tend to find 4-AcO-DMT to be forgiving at the upper end. Just wondering if that's because all y'all are super hardheads or hardened psychonauts, or if you'd agree that 4-AcO-DMT seems to be a gentler substance at high doses.
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Could not agree more, I've never taken more than 7-8 grams of shrooms and that was on a homemade campfire pizza which lots of protein and carbs to slow down the digestion of the mushrooms. I trip like crazy on anything 5 -7 grams of shrooms but I have no problem pushing 4-aco-dmt into the 75mg range. 4-aco-dmt is way more manageable than shrooms IMO.
 
I guess I must be a tryptamine hard head cause high doses for me are when I get as close to an LSD state as possible. I haven't do acid since the late 90's and now with all the new drugs out I don't think I would trust that it was the real thing unless i knew the person very well. I have also never had a negative experience on high doses. The supplier I use has a pretty good selection and I have tried so far(4-ho-dmt/4-ho-mipt/4-aco-met/DPT/4-ho-det) I tend to find 4-aco-dmt to be the most introspective I don't get tons of visuals aside from trails but with a high dose reality is very warped and if I close my eyes i'm in a different world. I like combinations my next will be 4-ho-det/4-aco-dmt hopefully in a few days.
 
perpetualdawn said:
It seems like 4-AcO-DMT is easier to push up to high doses than magic mushrooms are. Would you folks who've pushed it up to the 80mg+ range agree with that?

I find people tend to get scared and weird on high doses of mushrooms (myself included), but reports here suggest that people tend to find 4-AcO-DMT to be forgiving at the upper end. Just wondering if that's because all y'all are super hardheads or hardened psychonauts, or if you'd agree that 4-AcO-DMT seems to be a gentler substance at high doses.
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100mg IM of 4-AcO-DMT was weirder than say 10-12 grams dried cubes...fairly common dose for me...

...but the equivalent dose in fresh cubes...100-120 grams...was freakier than 100mg IM of 4-AcO-DMT.

My high doses...100-130mg IM of 4-AcO were less visual than the lower doses for some reason...and nausea was also a factor...especially since I don't smoke weed...I finally had to quit doing the acetylated tryps for that reason...makes me sick at my stomach.

Neither one, 4-AcO/cubes, ever freaked me out though. I've done some 20+ gram doses of dried cubes before and never really had a bad episode.
 
Had the pleasure to acquire some of this chem and absolutely love it. Reminds me very much of shrooms but lighter on the head and shorter duration. Never had regular DMT so cannot compare. Will stock up on this one.

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I'm wondering if a combo of DPT and 4-aco-dmt would work out all right. OR even DPT and 4-ho-det. The best combo so far was 4-aco-met and 4-ho-mipt. The next was 4-aco-dmt and 4-ho-mipt. I love mixing them it seems to add extra dimensions that aren't there on a single drug. There all similar but slightly different. i find 4-aco-met the most visual. I should be getting the 4-aco-dmt /DPT/4-ho-det any day maybe ill mix them all, who knows I excited to try DPT againg I spaced my doses out to much to really get the full effect. just IV'ing gave me visuals
 
^ Cool? Just because you enjoy higher doses doesn't mean everyone else will. I don't even like shrooms, so a substance that "mimics" their effects really has no pull for me. If I want to take acid, I'll take acid.


A REAL psychonaught wants whatever is going to give him the best experience, both mentally and physically. Pushing the dose with this chemical (really, with ALL psychedelics) causes the trip to become much more chaotic and makes it harder to sort out your own thoughts. Honestly that isn't at all conductive to the life changing properties that make tryptamines so special
 
Anyone else take a dose maybe a week after tripping hard and then not get effects the next time? Maybe there is a wait period with this?
 
i did too much again but it was just wierd i started with 15 IV and it floored me then just did all the rest sniffing it still pretty fucked 5 hrs later. waiting for DPT and 4-ho -det to combine any comments
 
^I'm unsure of the post you're referring to, but some young people have done LSD. I'm 21 and I've done it at least 4 times. Although I must admit, all I run into now is nbomes.
 
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