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Woody100

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I'm after some advice, I've got 20ml of testonon 350 and would like to know how often to pin and how much
It a blend of short and long esters
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]25mg test prop
35mg phenyl prop
135mg test decanoate
135mg test cypionate

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Ed would be best though when I had it I was doing Monday Wednesday Friday .5ml each day = 525mg per week, though because of the shorter esters eod or ed would be better...
That Isis stuff is strong shit I'm pretty sure it's the best gear I've used personally especially that T350, seemed to me to be stronger than their t400 and their t4 is really good shit too.

Though what are your goals? Age body fat height and training experiance
 
Thanks for the reply, been training for 3 years, 5' 7" 40 years old. looking to increase size and strength. Body fat I don't know, but not a lot
 
Woody100 said:
I'm after some advice, I've got 20ml of testonon 350 and would like to know how often to pin and how much
It a blend of short and long esters
25mg test prop
35mg phenyl prop
135mg test decanoate
135mg test cypionate
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The amount depends upon many variables, such as training experience, body size, BF%, AAS experience/number of cycles..? Clarify pls..

Ideally you should inject at least equal to the compound with the shortest half life, which in your case would be Propionate, again dependent upon a plethora of factors such as total amount injected in ml, place of injection etc, this should be around about 2 days....
What you ideally want to avoid is peaks in blood plasma concentrations of the hormone you are injecting (testosterone), which may leave you susceptible to greater metabolization issues, such as aromatization, or DHT conversion...

With Acetate injections are advised ED (every day).... Propionate E 2nd day........
 
I've been training for 3 years
height 5' 7"
weight 170lbs
I've run a 12 week test e only cycle and a 12 week test e with dbol
ive never used a test blend before and was hoping for some advice as to the best way to run it
 
Woody100 said:
I've been training for 3 years
height 5' 7"
weight 170lbs
I've run a 12 week test e only cycle and a 12 week test e with dbol
ive never used a test blend before and was hoping for some advice as to the best way to run it
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At 170lbs our not on the big side... no offence..!! Maybe your diet needs tweaking, rather than AAS...

Try 0.4ml EOD (every 2nd day)... That should give you close to 500mg/week... OK for your size....
 
Do you think gf that the fluctuations in blood levels would be significant as the amount of prop vs cyp and Dec is on the lower end of the scale?
What I mean is obviously it is opti.al to inject according to the shortest half life but in this case would it make a huge difference?
 
Woody100 said:
Thanks for the advice lads, I will pin 0.5ml eod
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I didn't advise 0.5ml EOD..!!! Thats just over 600mg/week, for someone of your size,weight, and compound experience thats a bit on the high side..

i was hoping that by keeping the dose slightly under 500mg and pinning frequently enough to avoid plasma peaks in compound, you might get away without some form of estrogen management... (which now you probably won't)....!!!
 
nolys said:
Do you think gf that the fluctuations in blood levels would be significant as the amount of prop vs cyp and Dec is on the lower end of the scale?
What I mean is obviously it is optimal to inject according to the shortest half life but in this case would it make a huge difference?
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To be honest nolys, I don't really know, there are so many variables. Obviously the lower the dose the least likely there may be issues with metabolization.. What we have to try and avoid is comparing what the bigger, serious body-builders are doing (with huge doses) and applying that same methodology of pharmacology to the average person on a relatively low dosing protocol... I'm sure the effects aren't linear as the dose drops off significantly... Again, body size may come into it, 2g -3g /week seems ok for someone at 120-150kgs... Try that same amount on a 70kg newbie and you'd most likely cripple him with side effects..!!

25mg test prop.... (78.8% ).... (2 day half life) or less, maybe 0.8 days..??
35mg phenyl prop.... (64.5% ).... (2 day half life)
135mg test decanoate.... (61.2% ).... (7 day half life)
135mg test cypionate.... (65.8% ).... (6 day half life) or much less due to the cyclopentyl-ring on the ester..

As you can see you get more testosterone as a % and a much shorter half life with Propionate, but a higher dose with a longer release time with the other esters...
We know site of injection can influence metabolization and thus bioavailability, at least according to minto et al. (although he only used single dose nandrolone) but to date its the best study we have to go on.. So thats another variable..

Do some people get aromatization, gyno, DHT issues on 500mg/week.? The answer to that is, yes they do, so maybe we should always advise on the side of caution. Especially here on Bluelight..!!

my 2c...
 
I'm doing basically the same thing with MedTech T400 acetate, prop, pp, hexa, enanth, deca

0.5ml Mon-Wed-Fri so 600mg

If this is your 1st cycle and your training like an animal and eating properly then mon- thurs 0.5ml

Although it wouldn't be a bad idea to just do 1ml per week for about 5 weeks then if sides are ok up it to 3x per week.
 
Sorry I just realised what I wrote, it was meant to say 0.4ml EOD, all your advice is being taken on board, I just want to get the best out of what I have got.
Pin days would be
mon,wed, fri, sun, tue, thurs and so on
 
Woody100 said:
So if I run 0.4ml EOD, over a 7 week period that would use up 1x 10ml vial, is 7 weeks a long enough cycle or should I extend it to 10 weeks as I have 20ml in total
hope this maks sense..
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Yes, 7 weeks is a bit on the low side, the longer ester may take up to a month to achieve maximal plasma concentrations... 10-12 would be ideal, dependant on how you feel..
 
Genetic Freak said:
Yes, 7 weeks is a bit on the low side, the longer ester may take up to a month to achieve maximal plasma concentrations... 10-12 would be ideal, dependant on how you feel..
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Ok thanks GF for all of your input, it's very much appreciated.
 
Woody100 said:
Just one more thing, when would pct start, 3 weeks or 4 weeks after last shot
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You ideally want most of the hormone out of your system prior to PCT... Your longest ester decanoate, half lifes at about 7 days..

135mg = 81mg after the ester weight has been subtracted.... half of 81 = 40.5mg (after one week) half of 40.5 = 20mg (after 2 weeks)...

So you can see as a very rough guide (ignoring the other esters and any residual test)... After 2 weeks the hormone in your system is less than you would produce naturally...

PCT 2 weeks after last injection.... Nolvadex 20mg X 4-6 weeks (clomid..? do you need it on less than 500mg/week)..?
 
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