I'm New to this site and I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience as me.I used stimulants from age 12 to 19 quite frequently mainly snorting Ritalin, meth, amphetamine and cocaine.when I was 19 I started to have have mental health issues such as extreme panic attacks and ocd, I used to love these drugs but then they created these problems for me.since I quit using them I got addicted to benzodiazepines and alcohol and also z drugs.and I'm now 28 and I have been hospitalised for alcohol withdrawal many times .so here is what I'm trying to get at, it's there anything out there that works for anxiety besides alcohol and sedatives? I have tried kava and phenibut.but they do not work.is this because my tolerance to other substances?
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anyone else - stimulant induced panic attacks?
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perhaps exercise, a solid routine form of meditation (find one that works for you) maybe chemicals and drugs are not what you need personally to cure your anxiety. Otherwise try chinese herbs and such, check out dragonherbs.com. maybe check out something like rhodiola, he shou wu, and schizandra. Do some research on more herbs. That's the only advice i have to offer. Also regular outdoor cardio in natural environments has been proven to promote mental well being and reduce anxiety.
n00bsaibot
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That's interesting, I used caffeine for most of my life, I was taking up to 700+ milligrams a day. Drinking those cans of redbulls, rockstars, and whatnot. I never used illegal stimulants . But i quit cold turkey and my disorders had worsened. I too developed very band anxiety and OCD. I used alcohol at first, and then the doctor prescribed me benzos and even tried SSRI, SNRI, TCA, beta-blockers.
Have you tried marijuana?
Have you tried marijuana?
n00bsaibot
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I see, have you looked into nootropics?
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Interesting, at 3grams you might fall asleep. I've been wanting to try GHB.
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Hiya Rob Benzo,
Welcome to Bluelight.
I had an addition to opiates, so may have some sort of empathy in terms of addiction but not in terms of your drug of choice (Doc). However, many, here will and will be around sometime to offer you some support and / guidance.
Please look at the rules and the sticky thread at the top of this sub-forum. There is one called The Adoption Programme, where current members will befriend new members, in order to help them settle into the site. They will do this in all sorts of ways; PMing one another, giving advice, feedback, helping with site navigation with things such as how to edit profile etc. If you think that this is something that would benefit you; please post a reply to the Adoption Programme thread; saying that you are interested and someone will get back to you.
All the very best at Bluelight,
Evey xxxx
Welcome to Bluelight.
I had an addition to opiates, so may have some sort of empathy in terms of addiction but not in terms of your drug of choice (Doc). However, many, here will and will be around sometime to offer you some support and / guidance.
Please look at the rules and the sticky thread at the top of this sub-forum. There is one called The Adoption Programme, where current members will befriend new members, in order to help them settle into the site. They will do this in all sorts of ways; PMing one another, giving advice, feedback, helping with site navigation with things such as how to edit profile etc. If you think that this is something that would benefit you; please post a reply to the Adoption Programme thread; saying that you are interested and someone will get back to you.
All the very best at Bluelight,
Evey xxxx
HdoubleODeezy
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I don't really know where to direct you on the site for your individual question so ill try to help here..
Have you tried hydroxyzine? It is an antihistamine that is actually surprisingly good at treating anxiety. I take it myself.
Also maybe clonidine? It's an alpha agonist. Works well for me too, although now i am on guanfacine (almost the same thing).
I take other meds too, but you seem to not be into anything too sedative like as in antipsychotics and the like.
Maybe a combo of hydoxyzine and clonidne might do it for you?
Good luck man!
If you need someone to talk to or need help with the site, don't hesitate to message me.
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Have you tried hydroxyzine? It is an antihistamine that is actually surprisingly good at treating anxiety. I take it myself.
Also maybe clonidine? It's an alpha agonist. Works well for me too, although now i am on guanfacine (almost the same thing).
I take other meds too, but you seem to not be into anything too sedative like as in antipsychotics and the like.
Maybe a combo of hydoxyzine and clonidne might do it for you?
Good luck man!
If you need someone to talk to or need help with the site, don't hesitate to message me.
-HOOD
Thanks for your replies everyone yes I have run out of prescription drugs to try I've tried just about everything I believe including the meds mentioned above as well as antipsychotics such as seroquel ,thorazine,halidol etc.it does take me quite a bit of benzodiazepine to work for me, such as upwards of ten mgs of alprazolam to work got me, I'm on lorazepam now, but I run through my script in about five days if I really try to hold back, that's why I'm trying supplements and such now, any information on the best way to do kava would be helpful as I'm using the paste now but didn't have any pronounced effects whatsoever.shits expensive as he'll too.anyways this is a very informative site, glad they have something like this
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phenibut is a wierd drug. 2 or 3 grams won't make me feel much of anything. Might kill anxiety but i don't have anxiety. I use to live in a house with these dudes who binged on phenibut. I'm talking 5 to 10 gram doses multiple times per day, but only like 2 days in a row on the weekend. There were several dudes who obviously couldn't moderate their use and usually after 3 days of continuous high dose phenibut use you are going to have hellish WD's if u stop. Very strange chemical. At these high doses some of the guys called themselves an ambulance, and some said the withdrawal was much worse than heroin. Be careful with phenibut, it can be a very powerful drug that you can easily get addicted to. When I was taking large doses of it, it made me feel like a god, physically and mentally unstoppable. The shit is one very strange chemical.
Jabberwocky
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what type of Phenibut did you order? I've used the pill form from <SNIP> before and they worked fine. not as good as they quite were years and years back, but still left me feeling good/relaxed/motivated. very similar to a feeling of GHB; which is how I originally found out about Phenibut.
when I first started taking Phenibut I started at 2G's in the AM and 2G's in PM (usually 7AM and 1PM) and would feel great all day. come that night I would pass out and sleep like a brick! ha. it's almost similar to "G'ing out", so you must be careful when taking this as well.
if it is your first time taking Phenibut I would start w/ 2G's and let it sit for 3-5 hours before considering anything more. Phenibut takes quite a while to kick in and actually feeling the affect. if 2G's do not work then move up to 2.5G's and then if not MAX out at 3G's. also, make sure NOT TO TAKE THIS more than 2 weeks in a row. you can easily become physically addicted if you let your cycle run too long. even when doing this often I would take 3G's in the AM and 3G's in the PM, as mentioned above.
who else here has had good experience? powder or pill form? I've always used pill but I have heard powder is better but have yet to try it. can you recommend me some type of powder I can check out if so? I just do not want to go wasting time by ordering something I do not know much about only to be let down.
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HdoubleODeezy
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Try primaforce.
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I've used Liftmode and Primaforce. Liftmode claims a very high purity. But Primaforce is the fucking shit dude. Take it from a former phenibut junkie. Primaforce has much stronger effects for some unknown reason and it can get you seriously feeling fucking fantastic. None of my phenibut gang liked Liftmode, there were like 9 of us professional phenibut junkies. Primaforce is where it's at handsdown.
Jabberwocky
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where do I grab this? very much like Phenibut? I LOVED Phenibut for a bit before going back to a full time dope fiend; well, I am making my move away from dope and wouldnt mind giving Phenibut another try but if youre telling me this is that much better than by all means I'd like to give it a shot.
where do you grab primaforce? is there a certain brand? pill or powder? dosage? sorry.. but this is all very new to me.
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the price increased i believe. Just google primaforce phenibut. You definitely want powder not capsules, i drink it in water but my friends are babies and have to drink it in iced tea. Just google primaforce phenibut and look for a 300g tub of powder. Find a supplement site that sells it for the cheapest price. I think buying straight from the primaforce site is pricy, you can get it cheaper through online retailers. And liftmode ain't shit compared to the effects of primaforce. I'm a gaba god and know my phenibuts very well. For me it takes a good 5 grams to get me in the zone. Take the recommended dose first to see if you get an effect. I was up to 15 grams at one point and became superhuman, literally speaking. But it is dangerous as you can only use it 2 days in a row and then must wash out for at least 5 days, or else you may develop the nastiest addiction you couldn't ever imagine. Angels and demons type withdrawal.
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Gaba God ..I like that..I've been taking in day 3 now I think it helps with my tremors from drinking and benzodiazepine use.seems to cut my anxiety a bit.only taking 2 grams a day.shouldn't really have any type of withdrawal from that huh?