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pre-packed pins!?!? anyone do this? how long between shots?

Jabberwocky

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title says it all.. we are talking about dope here.

anyone pre-pack their pins? is this something that is even accepted? I've read about it before and have done it prior, but this was only for an hour or so prior to injection.

is it acceptable to pre-pack a day or so in advance? I've read over and over and it seems like a big ol' NO! but I want to ask users/people who have done it/attempted it/knows about it/tried before!?

been using every other day or so for the past month. was coming off 6 or so months of "sobriety" using bupe. eventually gave that up and went back to brown town; not sure why I slipped but I did. oh well.

anyway, I am using every other day and trying to push the use out as long as possible to drain usage/addiction. so, has anyone pre-packed needles before and had the in pocket or right by your side ready to use? always a hassle when out in public/work/anywhere and it's "THAT TIME" and you have to become a CHEF out of no where.

has anyone done this before? when I was using a year or so ago I would always cook up.. but it's too much of a hassle and I am at work all day so its a hassle to bring all the shit w/ me to work; rather just a filled pin, if possible. also, I am TRYING (or so I tell myself) to drain my addiction by pushing the shots out as long as possible so I can drain my addiction/tolerance.

at one point I remember being "sick" every 12-15 hours or so. this is going back a year ago before I made the switch to bupe. now w/ my dope shots I take every 24-28hrs and keep pushing hour by hour.

has anyone done this before? I seem to be doing pretty good w/ the extended time between use and keep trying to stretch. I really dont even need to pre-pack need.

so, good to be back on the board. HELLO to all the peeps that I've been missing. HIIIIIIIIIIII!
 
I thought that was bad because when heroin is exposed to water for too long it turns back into morphine? I'm not that educated on the scientific stuff tho.
 
youre from Seattle.. you should know! ha.

there is SOMETHING like that.. but I am unsure which is why I ask. I am PRETTY sure they can be pre-packed for a certain amount of time, but no longer than XXX hrs. problem is.. I dont know what the XXX stands for, so hopefully someone on here can help.
 
You don't want to leave it sit in the syringe for too long because it's not sterile. It can grow bacteria if you let it sit.
 
It def works for a few hours but I've never had the self control to keep a loaded shot with me for very long without using it lol. I think bacteria would be the main concern tho at least after more than 2-3 hours...
 
thanks, guys. the longest I've let it sit was an hour or two; which I have read about before and is OK based on other peoples' experience and also what I've read.

I was talking about 12-24hrs. seems like it's NOT OK based on what you guys have said and also what I've read.

usually I dont have the strength to let it sit long either but I got a "good deal" today and ended up grabbing 3 bundles, so I wanted to load at least 2 and have them ready to blast off at any time; I guess I will have to wake up 5 minutes early tomorrow to blast a load (play on words there, ha).
 
BostonBrownTown said:
usually I dont have the strength to let it sit long either but I got a "good deal" today and ended up grabbing 3 bundles, so I wanted to load at least 2 and have them ready to blast off at any time.
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UGHHH I would totally give a finger right now for a "good deal" on three buns. God damn... I would give a finger for an okay deal on 1 bundle...
 
3 buns for 2.5. that a good deal in Seattle?

outside of Boston and NY I have no clue about the dope scene; same goes for tar.. DONT HAVE A CLUE!
 
I've heard of pins clogging easier when the shot sits around for a while, and I'm sure you don't want to be stuck at work with a clogged pin so just make your shots to order.
 
If you used steril water would you still have to worry about bacteria in the dope itself? As long as the cotton and cooker were sterile to begin with. BostonBrowntown use sterile water and mix up a shot and do it the next day and see if you get off as good as you did before letting it sit. Maybe it's time to start experimenting.
 
Welderman said:
If you used steril water would you still have to worry about bacteria in the dope itself? As long as the cotton and cooker were sterile to begin with. BostonBrowntown use sterile water and mix up a shot and do it the next day and see if you get off as good as you did before letting it sit. Maybe it's time to start experimenting.
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I've done this before and it worked fine. last time I did it I got water from the faucet and boiled it in the spoon. I let sit there for roughly around 24hrs outside the fridge and used the following day. again, this was going back about a year ago adn all worked fine. who knows, hto.

longest I've let sit recently was around 24hrs. I asked this question to see if I did the "right" thing last time (this is going back a year or so ago). as of late I've only made shots to go.. but I am not using as often as I once was so I thought it would be easier to make 3-4 shots and have them ready for use. guess I will have to just make them as I go, tho :(. damn, and here I am being all lazy and shit.. even when it comes to getting "high", ha.
 
Welderman said:
If you used steril water would you still have to worry about bacteria in the dope itself? As long as the cotton and cooker were sterile to begin with. BostonBrowntown use sterile water and mix up a shot and do it the next day and see if you get off as good as you did before letting it sit. Maybe it's time to start experimenting.
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I don't think you would have to worry about powder H having bacteria on it, but even when using sterile water if your hands touch the cotton or anything else then the bacteria from that can get into the shot and multiply as the shot sits. That's why bacteriostatic water is supposed to be used for shots that are going to sit for a while since it's got a tiny bit of alcohol in it which prevents the bacteria from surviving and spreading in the shot.
 
Welderman said:
If you used steril water would you still have to worry about bacteria in the dope itself? As long as the cotton and cooker were sterile to begin with. BostonBrowntown use sterile water and mix up a shot and do it the next day and see if you get off as good as you did before letting it sit. Maybe it's time to start experimenting.
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Since I've taken microbiology and related classes, I would say that it's still a problem worrying about various microbes such as bacteria/viruses. You would be surprised how long different microscopic organisms can survive on surfaces even if it's powdered heroin. Now if you used a micron filter, things could possibly be completely different.
 
I agree with brutus. I come from a different background, mainly food preperation and processing. You would be amazed at the type of bacteria I have tested for and have found in food that has been boiled, had acid added to it, and packaged under vacuum. Those little critters are tough. the thing is with a freshly prepared shot you may get a few bacteria but not many. If you let them sit in a nice moist, fairly warm enviroment you are just daring them to multiply into enough to be dangerous. In every shot you do I promise you are getting some bacteria in there. The trick is to minimize the count and the types that are there and not let them spread.
 
chelseagirl said:
UGHHH I would totally give a finger right now for a "good deal" on three buns. God damn... I would give a finger for an okay deal on 1 bundle...
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Haha i mis read this and didnt understand you were talking about a literal finger on your hand. I was like who the hell would trade a finger for 3 buns??

Anyway, ive done it before when going on outings in the past and i knew time was pressed, like an all day outing w my family whereni dont qant to bring my gear w me or an airplane. Ive never gone no more than 6hrs w it but i dont see 12 being THAT damaging..never had any problems w six. But i am just basing this off my own experience i have no facts to back it up otherwise..
 
BostonBrownTown said:
3 buns for 2.5. that a good deal in Seattle?

outside of Boston and NY I have no clue about the dope scene; same goes for tar.. DONT HAVE A CLUE!
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nah tar doesn't come in bundles.. in Seattle I usually just get it by weight.. discounted price for a gram or more. I guess in SF they do it in .1g incrememts.

From my experience in NY, I'd say that is a good deal.
 
Tommyboy said:
I don't think you would have to worry about powder H having bacteria on it, but even when using sterile water if your hands touch the cotton or anything else then the bacteria from that can get into the shot and multiply as the shot sits. That's why bacteriostatic water is supposed to be used for shots that are going to sit for a while since it's got a tiny bit of alcohol in it which prevents the bacteria from surviving and spreading in the shot.
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Bacteriostatic water is what I was thinking of but couldn't remember. I read a bunch of posts from capitain heroin talking about making a bunch or suboxone shots. Also the micron filter would be a good call too.
brutus said:
Since I've taken microbiology and related classes, I would say that it's still a problem worrying about various microbes such as bacteria/viruses. You would be surprised how long different microscopic organisms can survive on surfaces even if it's powdered heroin. Now if you used a micron filter, things could possibly be completely different.
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This is why I was never crazy about shooting dope. Too much shit to worry about when I just want to get high and forget about shit, not worry about the micro organisms I'm pumping into my bloodstream.
 
I've done this many times, like when I'm going to be at work or out with friends, or when I'm couchsurfing and unsure if I'll be able to sneak off to a bathroom for 10-20 minutes without someone wondering what's going on. So far I've left shots (inside a hard plastic toothbrush holder, so the plunger doesn't accidentally get pushed down) for as long as 24 hours, and I don't seem to have suffered any adverse side effects, and seem to get just as high as if the shot was "fresh." I use bottled water and try to always use a fresh sharp for every shot. Good luck!
 
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