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I also can't decide whether I would rather lose sight or hearing. I feel like losing hearing would be even more isolating, and then I couldn't hear music. But sight is our primary sense for identifying and navigating, plus it's awesome and beautiful. And I am a painter so that would be gone.
 
I think losing the sensation of touch would be cool if it felt like you were floating in a dissociative wonderland all the time (though I'm guessing this is not the case and you would just be at risk of harming yourself in a bunch of different ways). Part of me thinks that not having hearing would be very peaceful, though I'm sure it would be, overall, more alienating than peaceful. One cool thing, I guess, about losing a sense would be your other senses requisitioning the white brain matter formally dedicated to the lost sense and thereby feeling more deeply through your remaining senses.

edit: it looks like being blind was often more or less a requirement for these itinerant buddhist music monks.
 
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Yeah I think it would actually be kinda cool (just in one way) to lose your sight, and have your hearing and smelling in particular get much better. I read an article about this who is blind and uses echolocation to maneuver shockingly well... he can even ride a bike through the woods. He emits clicks every so second or so and he is able to hear where things are with great precision, because he's blind. And he's been teaching other blind people to do it.

To me, loss of hearing would just be horrible. The idea of being blind AND deaf is like the worst kind of claustrophobia in my mind. How the fuck would you learn anything or function at all, with only smell and touch. Or communicate with other people. Makes me think Helen Keller was a total badass.
 
xork said:
I read an article about this who is blind and uses echolocation to maneuver shockingly well... he can even ride a bike through the woods

I totally saw a tv thing about him once, it blew my mind watching him do it. It's amazing what people can train themselves to do.

I think losing the sensation of touch would be cool

Even if we removed the possibility of injuring yourself, it seems like it'd be lonely. What level of comfort or intimacy could you share with others if you couldn't feel their touch? Interaction would be like 3D skyping. Actually, that wouldn't affect me at all, so why do I care?

construct said:
not having hearing would be very peaceful

Until someone walked behind you and tapped on your shoulder! I'd have to get those glasses with mirrors on them, or a helmet with cameras offering ~360 degree vision through its HUD.

I don't want to be limited to monodirectional sensory data, something so absolute and unchanging (compared to the transcience of sound), it's like a symbolic cage, and I've incurred all sorts a damage to my life by trying to rid myself of things that make me feel trapped.


xork said:
I also can't decide whether I would rather lose sight or hearing

I'll go for losing sight, tentatively. I dunno, the requisite changes in lifestyle might be good for me.
 
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So the AMT was awesome, as expected. I almost threw up during the come up, because although it was a sunny day out it was pretty windy and somewhat cold outside and I underdressed when I went to go grab some cranberry juice. Then when I got back inside my girlfriend turned the heat up in my room to 80 without asking so I got really hot really quick and had to cool down thankfully she turned the temp down as well. the cranberry juice helped a little bit. but when I took my first small puff of weed that alone made me feel wayyy better. next time I will be smoking weed for the whole come up to combat the nausea and have eaten well that day. I'll probably take more too.

anyways, then I walked to my friend's house and my eyes were starting to dilate on the way there and I was walking way faster. It slowly developed into a really nice roll and I ended up smoking a lot of weed like 5 bowls without realizing that I was smoking such copious amounts. The visuals I got were reminiscent of MDMA with lots of afterimages and stuff but I was never like rolling balls but it was a very natural great empathogenic feeling. I really wanted to play the drums but didn't because every time we do we get a noise complaint now no matter what time in the day it is :|

I can't wait for tycho, I think i'm gonna take maybe 80mg of AMT and 3 or so grams of ghb.

just proposed the option of taking it rectally to the gf and she wasn't so judgemental. Maybe I will end up doing that roa now that shes seeming so accepting of it. I feel like that's just a weird rumor to have floating around about you. like, 'hey isn't that the dude that sticks drugs in his ass?' Other than that I see no reason why I wouldn't do it. The come up was almost four hours and my stomach felt like a rock. I honestly think I would have thrown up if I'd taken even 15mg more but If i'd prepared better it would have been less nauseating I think. main reason I wanna do rectal is to save material. I only got a quarter gram of it and I've been searching for it for over 2 years now :!
 
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Until someone walked behind you and tapped on your shoulder!

haha, this is true. I already get startled easily if I turn a corner and there is someone right there heading towards me, I imagine I would get ultra-paranoid if people were tapping me at any given moment when I didn't expect it.
 
So the AMT was awesome, as expected. I almost threw up during the come up, because although it was a sunny day out it was pretty windy and somewhat cold outside and I underdressed when I went to go grab some cranberry juice. Then when I got back inside my girlfriend turned the heat up in my room to 80 without asking so I got really hot really quick and had to cool down thankfully she turned the temp down as well. the cranberry juice helped a little bit. but when I took my first small puff of weed that alone made me feel wayyy better. next time I will be smoking weed for the whole come up to combat the nausea and have eaten well that day. I'll probably take more too.

anyways, then I walked to my friend's house and my eyes were starting to dilate on the way there and I was walking way faster. It slowly developed into a really nice roll and I ended up smoking a lot of weed like 5 bowls without realizing that I was smoking such copious amounts. The visuals I got were reminiscent of MDMA with lots of afterimages and stuff but I was never like rolling balls but it was a very natural great empathogenic feeling. I really wanted to play the drums but didn't because every time we do we get a noise complaint now no matter what time in the day it is :|

I can't wait for tycho, I think i'm gonna take maybe 80mg of AMT and 3 or so grams of ghb.

just proposed the option of taking it rectally to the gf and she wasn't so judgemental. Maybe I will end up doing that roa now that shes seeming so accepting of it. I feel like that's just a weird rumor to have floating around about you. like, 'hey isn't that the dude that sticks drugs in his ass?' Other than that I see no reason why I wouldn't do it. The come up was almost four hours and my stomach felt like a rock. I honestly think I would have thrown up if I'd taken even 15mg more but If i'd prepared better it would have been less nauseating I think. main reason I wanna do rectal is to save material. I only got a quarter gram of it and I've been searching for it for over 2 years now :!

Glad you had a good experience! FYI, rectal AMT doesn't really reduce the dosage significantly, maybe 10-15% less at most, which is unlike most substances. However it does greatly reduce the bodyload and nausea and shortens the come-up, and shortens the overall duration slightly too, most noticeably in a faster and smoother come-down/aftereffects period.
 
damn, I thought it did. Maybe I'll plug 80mg 8o

as for after effects there were next to none. I feel like i'm rolling a little today actually haha nothing bad. But when I started to come down I drank lots of beer and took 2mg of xanax so I woke up pretty drunk/high on xanax too. overall it felt very benign at 50mg besides the uncomfortable 'trapped in my own body' feelings during the come up. I think I need some more sleep than usual tonight though, i'm already feeling tired and it's only 8:00.

my hands were pure clams during the peak/plateau. They literally just felt wet like they'd been under running water but it was just sweat, I almost felt like I was underwater at times. The body buzz was great and definitely energetic during the beginning, but as I kept smoking more and more weed I got lazier and lazier because I was cold and liked the coziness of where I was at. AMT definitely fucks with your body temperature a lot. I still think it's absolutely amazing for what it is though.
 
Yeah AMT definitely can mess with your body temperature. And a lot of drugs give me sweaty palms/feet, and AMT is certainly strong in that regard.

Have you had AMT as high as 80mg orally? I'd say 65-60mg plugged would be roughly equivalent to 80mg oral. That's a pretty high dose though, I've certainly dosed it that high and higher, but for a while I was taking AMT 3-4 times a week (one time I took it every day for 7 days straight - brain zaps, sleep paralysis and a few days of serious depression resulted).
 
lol there's probably a good 10-15 hits worth on the inside of an empty vial

i used to just cut them in half with scissors and then chew on the pieces. that shit would send me way out there
 
I don't have that much so I just wanna make sure I have at least one really strong experience with it. I think 80mg plugged might be the dose I go for. Now my gf is saying that she's gonna make fun of me for plugging it unless she does it too :|

that means I'll basically only have one dose after that how sad :(

It's the day after and I really do feel great. Doesn't seem like it put too much stress on my brain. Shrooms never did either though.

I used to wash my vial of DOC out and give it to friends for free and they'd have pretty strong experiences. so even with something like 20 times less potent than acid enough stays inside the empty vial for a strong trip. I would be extra ready for a strong experience if I were you.

I kind of feel like I'm still on amt a tiny bit. It's a good feeling, and I'm seeing greenish blue tracers and after images because I took a few dabs.
 
I almost perpetually feel like I'm dancing around the abyss but can never finally hop in. Even in childhood with all the violence and such, I always though someone would break through a stage and yell, "Jost joking, here's a million dollars!" but nope this is somehow real reality....like always.


More GABA agonists on top on GABA agonists to fix my brain from realizing what a rotten apple it truly is.



I wish being weren't so difficult. That it should be in line with its definition, but hey maybe that's just it, is like everything not simple or subjective.;)
 
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