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Benzos Mixing benzos in Propylene Glycol...

MartinFn

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Hey my Bl's friends,
well i guess the title says it all, if i dissolve diazepam, (or the other benzos as well...), and i mean pills, tabs, not pure powder, in Propylene Glycol, will i get a solution that can be ingected, (IV or IM)?? Maybe i must use alcohol, too?? It's fuckin fuck, but really IDK..:?
Also, if the answer is positive, i've got another question:The PG has to be plain, (i mean can this be done in a liquid that's ready for e-smoking, which has nicotine and some other stuff in PG, or it has to be just plain PG..)??? And the last question, if this can be done, would the solution can be smoked, with an e-cig..??

That's all my friends, so thanx in advance for helping me, i hope all of you are as fine as it gets, and maybe more...;).%).:).



MartinFn
 
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I'd just try to get some PG from the pharmacy, it should be cheap and OTC. No one in his right mind will tell you the e cigarette liquid is not harmful for injection, eventhough there's a good chance you would end up fine. I haven't done this myself, but generally you want to use the least amount needed of warm PG to dissolve the amount of benzodiazepine you plan to inject, then add some water. Here is an example for a lorazepam solution:

1ml total volume contains:
-1mg lorazepam
-0.8ml PG (= 830mg PG)

The maximum safe amount of PG to inject is 25mg per kg bodyweight, which is 1750mg or 1687ml at 70kg bodyweight (154lbs). This means you will only be able to inject 2mg lorazepam, while still remaining "safe" according to medical literature. People who do suffer PG toxicity have actually received MORE than this amount in all published cases if I am not mistaken.

EDIT: Sorry you were asking about diazepam. I don't have much time for this and couldn't find any formulations without ethanol. I would strongly disadvice injecting ethanol, even if it's at 10%, I personally found that very painful... Anyway, diazepam seems to be sold @ 5mg/ml in 40% PG, 10% ethanol solution. The ethanol will probably increase solubility, but if you do the math you will see that even at this low PG/high diazepam concentration you will still quickly reach dangerous amounts of PG (~20mg diazepam). Now if diazepam's solubility in PG alone is much worse (probably comparable to lorazepam), you will be able to inject even less. Imho, it all doesn't seem to be worth it. Get your hands on some Midazolam!

EDIT2: I don't even think you'll get a rush off this btw.
 
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Please don't shoot e-cig liquid. Just eat your pills man.

What you are proposing/asking sounds like a terrible idea, and pointless.

No, don't attempt this...

Imho, it all doesn't seem to be worth it.


Thank you all very much for the advices...As a matter of fact, i knew that it was a bad idea, but as i wasn't totally sure, i thought that Bl people will know about it. I guess that these advices are not only for IV use, but for IM use too, right??...
Again, thanx for your interest my friends..I really appreciate it..:)

Get your hands on some Midazolam!

Well my friend crOOk, you don't know how much i want to get some midazolam..i haven't tried it yet, and in my mind , it is the king of benzo, (a lot of people consider flunitrazepam as the best benzo, but i have a feeling that midazolam is the best..but unfortunatelly, i can't get my hands on it..:(. Well, anyway, thank you very much for the details in your post, useful things..;).%).:).




MartinFn
 
I guess that these advices are not only for IV use, but for IM use too, right??...
Yes, most definitely.

I guess Midazolam is highly sought after for the rush it supplies when you IV it. Unfortunately I've never been able to IV it myself, only at high dosages before surgical procedures. I personally have never been able to get any enjoyment out of benzos, not even with IV use. Propofol on the other hand... Hands down one of the most enjoyable highs of all drugs I have ever taken. Many euphoria, such wow. ^^
Wait there was one benzo I did enjoy, clorazepat. That was some crazy shit. I've tried about 20 benzos, but that was the only one that was euphoric. And how! Ironically it is said to be weak.

Very glad to see you reconsidered injecting your lipophile benzos! They wouldn't have given you any rush anyway. :/
 
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