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Heroin Question Regarding The Big H

apache

apache

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So I just had some dope delivered and I'm wondering how to basically go about testing the potency of it. I haven't messed with H for a couple of years and based on some of the stuff I've read on here, I was probably a little bit too liberal with it when I experimented before. During my most recent usage, I've only been messing with moderate to high doses of hydrocodone (70-90mg) and I know that H is a totally different monster so I'm really trying to go about doing this as responsibly as possible (if you could save your "there is no responsible way to do heroin" stuff, I would really appreciate it). I only snort so should I just do a baby bump or two? Will that give me a good indicator of how strong it is? When I messed with heroin before, I got it off one steady connect but since that was years ago, this is obviously a different person so I'm going into this blindly and am obviously not going to jump head first into it. I'm also not worried about getting addicted, seeing as how I've brought my opiate consumption down to a reasonable level after suffering w/d for the first time about a month ago (completely eye opening experience), so if you guys could please save those concerns for someone else. Not trying to be rude but I just want to know about dipping into new product for the first time.
 
do you have any type of opiate habit at all right now or no? because you can get cross tolerance from other stuff

id say to make a line the size of the little plastic pieces on the edge of shoelaces, snort it, wait about 45 mins, then see how you feel

odds are you can tale more than that and be just fine but its impossible to tell via tcp/ip tbph
 
yeah, i've got a decent tolerance at the moment. took 70mg hydro today and got decently high, slight nod but nothing too intense. i don't plan on doing any dope for atleast a few days though. i've been following the 8/72 rule at the very least.
 
apache said:
yeah, i've got a decent tolerance at the moment. took 70mg hydro today and got decently high, slight nod but nothing too intense. i don't plan on doing any dope for atleast a few days though. i've been following the 8/72 rule at the very least.
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I dunno if this is a dumb question but what is the 8/72 rule. Eights hrs on 72 off????
 
lol yeah, but it only keeps you from getting physically addicted. i'm finding that the trick seems to be using the 8/72 rule at the very least and having other avenues to pursue to keep the mental addiction at bay. for me it's school, working out, and making music. i still want to eventually kick opiates for good of course but for now, i'm ok with where i'm at. i have all a's in school and i'm learning to be positive and see the good in things but for us opi users, it's usually a daily struggle until we can kick the habit for good.
 
I always try 1/4 of what I would normally do. Thats the key to staying safe. You gotta think smart. Not hard. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Opiates especially heroin is really hard to regulate the use of. You seem to know what you want, and are doing it. Just be careful bro. We all know how easy it is to slip, and develop that daily habit.
 
"8/72 rule"?...ha

Yeah, I'll skip the heroin lecture....You just have to be very careful is all, like everyone has said already. Take small test bumps, wait...determine potency, and just go from there. Heroin is fairly potent by weight, but not so much so that it's impossible to be careful. Just use common sense...
 
lmao don't worry, blue. i don't plan on using the 8/72 rule for dope, even though that's what it's designed for. like i said, i know h is a totally different beast. i'm going to be extraaa careful.
 
randysmackage said:
I always try 1/4 of what I would normally do. Thats the key to staying safe. You gotta think smart. Not hard. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Opiates especially heroin is really hard to regulate the use of. You seem to know what you want, and are doing it. Just be careful bro. We all know how easy it is to slip, and develop that daily habit.
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thanks for the help and kind words, man. you're right though, we've all slipped at one time or another. i know when i screwed up for the first time, it really shook me up. i'll never get cocky like that again.
 
The 8/72 rule says that you can use heroin within an 8 hour period once every 72 hours and that's supposed to prevent physical dependence. The truth is that if you've even been dependent before this is still too often to use. Even if you haven't been dependent before you would eventually experience some withdrawal symptoms if you stuck to that schedule and then missed a dose. I had been using only on the weekends a while ago and by Thursday I would startg getting sick since my body was expecting that next dose since it had adjusted to functioning normally with that scheduled dosing.
 
yeah, i actually only started doing the 8/72 rule this week because i came across some vicodin and wanted to be safe but i sort of had an epiphany today that that's way too often to use if you really want to consider yourself under control, so i plan on taking a decent break here.
 
apache said:
yeah, i actually only started doing the 8/72 rule this week because i came across some vicodin and wanted to be safe but i sort of had an epiphany today that that's way too often to use if you really want to consider yourself under control, so i plan on taking a decent break here.
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Sorry this is more lecture related but it's not in a condescending tone and is more of a sharing-advice type of thing so i think it's okay lol.

When you stop using based on practicality, and instead on rationality, that's when things get bad:

Ex.) Practicality=Someone tries vicodin since their friend does it and offers it to them, they have surgery and they have some pills left over, they were having a big party and wanted to have some extra fun etc.etc.

Rationality=If I only take them when I don't pay for them then it'll be okay, If I only take them at parties I won't become an addict...If i only use for 8 hours every 72 hours, I won't become physically dependent and that way I'll be okay

That's what I try and watch out for and I think it works alot better than that kinda stuff, just realizing that I'm thinking so much about how I can use something as much as possible..... without getting addicted.

See what I mean?
Anyway good luck man hope it turns out well.
 
^ I have had that conversation with myself many times. I eventually rationalize that I can use all day every day. I never heard the 8/72 rule or anything like that when I first started using maybe it would have helped.
 
Welderman said:
^ I have had that conversation with myself many times. I eventually rationalize that I can use all day every day. I never heard the 8/72 rule or anything like that when I first started using maybe it would have helped.
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Ya it really doesn't matter either way, there's nothing that can REALLY stop a person from becoming an addict after they start using, only themselves.
 
There are tons of all these "rules" out there to avoid addiction. I've heard and tried them all. The 8/72 rule, the once a week, only weekends, every 3 day, blah blah blah. If it were that easy, there wouldn't be millions of heroin addicts out there.

It's incredibly arrogant for anyone to think that they are just so smart, that they can succeed where millions of others failed. It's like they think they're the first person to put some thought into not getting addicted and coming up with a schedule, out thinking and out smarting addiction. Guess what? It doesn't work. Every junky has tried that shit, and maybe you pull it off for a couple years (if you're lucky), but eventually, you're gonna break your rules slowly but surely, using an extra day here, making an exception there, and before you know it.. you're fucked.

Heroin is so damn addicting and ruins so many lives for a reason. Your ego will destroy you, as I've seen it happen to many many people. But, if you wanna go for it anyway.. think you'll be the 1% of people who can casually use H and avoid addiction, go for it. Good luck to you.
 
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