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Opiate w/d help

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Yeah night time and the early morning is always the hardest. That's when you feel the shittiest.

The worst part is even if you expect it that doesn't make it any better. I find it best to put myself to sleep before it develops if I can.

GABAPENTIN FRIENDS! Seriously, you take it the night before it takes away, I shit you not (for me at least) 100% withdrawals! Then when I sleep 7-9 hours!!!!! I wake up feeling decent. Then I eat something before it fades, if you got nothing else to do LOPES with the bbb concoction (but only for w/ds) I swear by gabapentin for opiate withdrawals.


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That's good that it helps you so much, but it also doesn't do shit for a lot of people. Ha. Especially if you have a larger habit.

But still, it's always a good med to have in your detox kit.
the cocktail probably did it all, the kratom, lopes with the GFJ, valium, then the gaba. not all at once but throughout the day. *shrug*

plus this was just a very short run for me... I was clean off all opiates for 3 years prior to this few day binge... but for me it's like if I do ANY opiate and get high off it for more than 3 days, I'll feel some form of withdrawals...idk if it psychosomatic or real or what but it feels real.
 
wish i could get some of the gabapentin im sure it will help. Your taper schedule sounds about right i would think since we are touching those receptors with lope and kratom there will still be some withdrawal when we stop both. tapering the lope would be easy for me since we can do it in 2mg increments but the kratom is the one that has me worried, I just ordered more, im such an addict, i hope to try my taper at the end of next week.

Glad you are doing good, keep letting me know how you are
 
Gabapentin works great for opiate withdrawals , if you take naproxen about 2hrs before, it supposedly increases bioavailability by 15%. also you should stagger your dose 300-400mg every 45 min you will absorb more of it. And need less to be well, I've gotten off of Oxy 80s with just Gabapentin before but I don't recommend taking it for more than a week, tolerance also builds ridiculously fast. Look up Gabapentin withdrawal.
 
Yeah the gabapentin tolerance bothers me but I only had 15, and took 4 2 nights in a row... might not take any tonight, probably just diazepam (10-15mg) for work... I don't trust myself on gabapentin at work... my coordination gets all wacky 8(

Anyway... my second inquiry is taking kratom and lope just going to delay my effects? I'm planning a taper til Saturday (day off) and not take anything and see how I feel. *crosses fingers* wish me luck! I"ll keep y'all posted.

UPDATE: Just took 10mg Lope with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice. :-) if that doesn't help in 2 hours I will be then taking 2-3 mg of Maeng Da Kratom...then if I still feel bad 10-15mg Diazepam depending...
 
I have gabapentin, clonodine, and baclofen all at my disposal as my meds are covered by state. The first and later I find tend to promote mood swings as the lightheadedness when I'm in wd only because I'm under prescribed and ran out and don't want to bother looking for any and would do fine with my opiate and weed as I manage pain and find my rushes with mushrooms and hikes. I do appreciate the tips though :D

Edit: gabapentin is not a very abused compound and can easily get scripted. It can be prescribed for pain or mood regulation so a physician out psychiatrist would be willing to prescribe it most likely. I find it helps with joint pain at first and sleep although loses the also aid benefit within days. 130-140 lb 300 mg was started to increase 600 and I never went over 900 mg as I didn't find increasing the dose to help
 
Yeah the gabapentin tolerance bothers me but I only had 15, and took 4 2 nights in a row... might not take any tonight, probably just diazepam (10-15mg) for work... I don't trust myself on gabapentin at work... my coordination gets all wacky 8(

Anyway... my second inquiry is taking kratom and lope just going to delay my effects? I'm planning a taper til Saturday (day off) and not take anything and see how I feel. *crosses fingers* wish me luck! I"ll keep y'all posted.

UPDATE: Just took 10mg Lope with fresh squeezed grapefruit juice. :-) if that doesn't help in 2 hours I will be then taking 2-3 mg of Maeng Da Kratom...then if I still feel bad 10-15mg Diazepam depending...
kratom is supposedly an opiate and so is loperamide, so I'm not sure of it's going to extend your withdrawals or not, but then again a lot of people taper with subs in 7 days and don't have problems, so you shouldn't have too much of a problem as long as you keep the dose low,
 
W/d are going to happen after long term use no matter how you ween. The ideas is to get to a point where the symptoms are managable and your able to function
 
W/d are going to happen after long term use no matter how you ween. The ideas is to get to a point where the symptoms are managable and your able to function

True, however, I mentioned before this run was just a little over a week. And my usage was low. I'm tapering the kratom and lopes over like a week or so (almost out of the kratom) but overal I've only done the kratom 3-4 days in a row. Lopes just 2... only day 3 going to wait til I feel "squirrelly" before I dose ANYTHING.
 
UPDATE
no one gives a shit about big foot

Relapsed. Fuck. Now I'm at half my meds, and back at the beginning, trying to ween with the little bit of dope i got (not even ween.. just use when I start feeling bad) then switch back to the lopes.. I was doing it with the GFJ but I think I may need the tagamet before hand (Which I have been neglecting), I hope it'll help.

Also I've realized the after effect glows of Gabapentin if I take them late at night and the next morning I feel pretty good for a while! I just wish my coordination was better on them since I work in a restaurant otherwise I'd totally take them there.
 
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