Stimulants BA of hotrail? (street meth)

[DrGonzoLady]

i was just curious about the BA of a hot rail. i suspect its as much as insuffulation asuming the same amount is used for both ROAs. A few other questions about hotrails; what is the general experience you've had after say one hotrail vs same amount but different ROAs? effects? length of high? comedown any different? thanks! super karma points!

 

[opiatekrzy]

BA is up there with IV 90% range...2-4 hr duration , onset for me 5 mins?

 

[DrGonzoLady]

Thank you!

 

[opiatekrzy]

Smoking makes me feel really jittery in a state of paranoia and craving like smoking crack, the stimulation isn't as intense as snorting but it's still there. Definetly not a euphoric ROA to me, even though duration is short taking hit aftrr hits keeps you stuck in a bender with a stupid long half life

 

[blight12]

The highest ive ever got on meth is from oral usage, it works really well this way with its high oral BA, but this was also because eyeballing dosage orally taking un crushed crystal shards is very inaccurate and always ended up taking way more then i thought i was. I see no reason to use any ROA besides oral or nasal, never bothered with anything else., not necessary.

 

[Tryptamite]

Pardon my ignorance but what is a hotrail?

 

[blight12]

I think a hot rail is amps vaporised and smoked on a stove top or something similar correct?

 

[Crashing]

A hot rail is snorting a line with a glass tube, the line end has been heated up red hot so that you basically vaporize a line into your nose. Youtube it. I'd imagine the BA is 95%ish

It's a fairly new ROA and seems like it would be very damaging to the nose. Potential for user error on this one is probably just as bad as IVing or worse. Imagine putting the tube up to your face backwards in a stupor not realizing it. Goodbye, old face.

 

[blight12]

Interesting, a smoke level BA ROA combined with nasal usage. Sounds good, i will need to test this. Its prob very wasteful though or takes some skill to get effective with. Molten chucks of chemicals getting into your nose doesn't sound to pleasant though

But where in the hell can you get a glass tube? Doesnt sound like something you could get at your corner store.

 

[Crashing]

That's exactly where we get em in the US.

 

[bluespeed]

OMG that sounds so terrible.. why not smoke/vaporize it the normal way? This must destroy your nose 1000 times faster than snorting?

 

[DrGonzoLady]

doing a hotrail gives me the biggest rush of all ROAs, as I have never been an IV user.

 

[blight12]

I think if you actually enjoy snorting shit, it might be ideal. Like i do, i love that burn as thousands of tiny jagged shards of crustal slice through your nasal passages and tear you up for a few seconds. Its that good kind of pain. I tried smoking once on foil and all that happened is that large amounts of crystal evaporated into thin air, really pissing me off.

So much better then coke which would make me puke everytime due to gagging on backdrop. With good crystal it all pretty much dissolves with no residue, causing no blocked nose issues or anything afterwards.

Ill try plugging one day, but still havent gotten over the experience of trying to shove dry crumbling MDMA pills up there while on LSD. The problem with this was not failing and ending up with ass tainted powdered pills, but that fact that there was no ways we where going to let that simply go to waste.

 

[Crashing]

Ill try plugging one day, but still havent gotten over the experience of trying to shove dry crumbling MDMA pills up there while on LSD. The problem with this was not failing and ending up with ass tainted powdered pills, but that fact that there was no ways we where going to let that simply go to waste.

Just burst out laughing at this

I don't like snorting it because then at the end of my work shift there's fuckin crystal shards like lining the outside of my nose and i proceed to "oh fuck they know" at myself in the mirror. I've had pretty good look with big pieces of foil but i'd say like 10% of the hits are burnt or missed. If you make a V with the foil and hold it at a slight angle with the product on one end and about 5-7 inches on the other end you start inhaling with a tube before you light it, the stream of vapor will follow the V straight into the tube. It's tricky though, i had a lot of practice with cheap RC's.

 

[DrGonzoLady]

I too, enjoy the burn when I snort me a bump. I just dont know what it is about that sweet, sweet burn but I love it. I agree, IMO/E smoking can be a waste not only while smoking but, this ROA makes me fiend more causing me to blow through my supply quicker also, I never IV. I like to dose orally too. I usually get my supply ( I use about once a week ) and snort a reasonable sized line or hotrail, normally switching it up, every 8 hours or so then, I swollow my last dose. This keeps me from
crashing too hard.
PRO TIP: if you consider doing some hotrails, a nice bonus is the residue left behind in the glass tube. You see them cystals in there? You can get high off that shit!

 

[phuckingnutz]

A hot rail is snorting a line with a glass tube, the line end has been heated up red hot so that you basically vaporize a line into your nose. Youtube it. I'd imagine the BA is 95%ish

It's a fairly new ROA and seems like it would be very damaging to the nose. Potential for user error on this one is probably just as bad as IVing or worse. Imagine putting the tube up to your face backwards in a stupor not realizing it. Goodbye, old face.

I was doing hotrails 10+years ago...so they're not new.
For me, it was no different than smoking the same amount.
If you're in too big a stupor to do a hotrail correctly then you're probably too fucked-up to heat the tube in the first place.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Why not just get a good amount of meth heated up in the ball and put the mouth end in your nostril and inhale rhe vapors trapped in the glass at the end ?

 

[phuckingnutz]

I was doing hotrails 10+years ago...so they're not new.
For me, it was no different than smoking the same amount.
If you're in too big a stupor to do a hotrail correctly then you're probably too fucked-up to heat the tube in the first place.

Oh, lastly, the BA of ANYTHING smoked is not going to be in the 95% range unless , of course, you can hold in the smoke until NOTHING escapes.
With meth that is doubly difficult due to the fact that your oxygen debt is greatly increased

 

[Crashing]

I was doing hotrails 10+years ago...so they're not new.
For me, it was no different than smoking the same amount.
If you're in too big a stupor to do a hotrail correctly then you're probably too fucked-up to heat the tube in the first place.

Oh, lastly, the BA of ANYTHING smoked is not going to be in the 95% range unless , of course, you can hold in the smoke until NOTHING escapes.
With meth that is doubly difficult due to the fact that your oxygen debt is greatly increased

Good points man, first off i just assumed it was new. Second the BA thing is something i have overlooked entirely up until now, which accounts for burning the stash quicker when smoking. Check this article out...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14586388
"Methamphetamine was well absorbed after smoking or intranasal administration, with bioavailabilities of 79% after intranasal administration and 67% of the estimated delivered dose or 37.4% of the absolute (pipe) dose after smoking."

So smoked is around 37% considering exhalation cloud and pipe residue.

But about the stupor thing, i have definitely lit a cigarette backwards before so i'm just sayin' it's possible. I guess it's probably quite unlikely for you if youve done it for 10 years.

 

[blight12]

^ Wow this is saying that smoking is less effective then nasal usage. Makes sense because you cannot simply consider smoking BA to determine actual BA for this ROA. More motivation not to waste time smoking it, just snort for the first does that you need fast, and eat for the rest of them. Or plug if you want someting similar to smoking or iv rush.