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Bez from the Happy Mondays is going to stand to be an elected MP for Salford.

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The vagabond who's rapping at your door, standing
Bez who is from Salford, wants to give something back to the people of Salford.

He initially said it 'off the cuff' but got such a good response and has been advised 'if he's serious about it, there's plenty of people willing to advise and help him'. Apparently Jordan no less stood to be elected for the Stetford ward in Greater Manchester. I dont think she got anywhere, but there's a far greater chance that Bez actually will be elected. That would be fucking amazing to have Bez as an MP. The Daily Mail will have a field day about this, if his campaign poses a serious threat and he becomes a serious contendor, and the DM readers are gonna be giving themselves blood pressure problems. :)
 
The day I saw Bez for the first time, was the day I met my wife.

Glasgow, Saturday 27th December, 2008.

TRUE STORY. :D

Based on my experience of the man, I would vote for him out of principle. Is he standing against Morrissey?
 
haha, i love the responses. Bez in the houses of parliament would be fucking hilarious, all the toffs wouldnt have a clue what to make of him and their reactions would be so funny. He has huge public support (didnt he win that 'I'm A Celebrity. Get Me Out Of Here thing' or was it Celebrity Big Brother or was it both i cannot recall :?8() and comes across as a very likeable, decent & honest person. Very much a genuine 'people person'. Just what an MP should be.

'is he standing against Morrisey ?' Haha, brilliant. :) Ian brown and noel gallagher are also in the running.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
He has huge public support (didnt he win that 'I'm A Celebrity. Get Me Out Of Here thing' or was it Celebrity Big Brother or was it both i cannot recall :?8() and comes across as a very likeable, decent & honest person. Very much a genuine 'people person'. Just what an MP should be.
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When did we start swallowing the dangerous notion that being a 'people person' (or winning a fucking gameshow for that matter) should have any bearing on an individual's suitability for political office? Scary, scary 'edging-further-rightwards' stuff. 8(

Granted, the way British politics are, a 'loveable', ecstasy-ravaged buffoon is probably a more appealing prospect to most than any representative of the three main parties would ever be, but it's sad that it's come to this already. Or is it just Screaming Lord Sutch from beyond the grave? I don't know. What I do know is that the people of Salford should be demanding more from a prospective MP than experience in shaking maracas and necking tablets.

Up next: Vote Richard Ashcroft for a drearier, more workmanlike Britain, anybody? 8)
 
i very much doubt that Bez would be right wing in his policies, his support of the anti-fracking campaign is about all i know of his political leanings, but that would suggest that he would be far more inclined to having socialist/anti-establishment beliefs.

He may not come across as the cleverest or most well read of people, but he appears to be as 'sound as a pound' which isnt a bad place to be coming from. Would power corrupt him though ? Personally, i dont think it would.
 
I'm not talking about Bez harbouring any right-wing bias himself (though I think that's entirely possible). I'm talking about the very notion of populism, especially when it comes to the idea of people using their celebrity status in order to gain votes.

There are an awful lot of right-wing anti-fracking campaigners too, you know, just like there are many right-wing conservationists. It doesn't necessarily have any bearing whatsoever on somebody's politics beyond that one issue.
 
I think at the very least yer man is more likely to try to do something for "the people" rather than for himself (& his corporate masters) compared with any cunt likely to stand for a major party.

Surely that counts for something?

Fair enough, he's clearly not the sharpest, but with some half decent people advising him he could maybe do some good.

Sam, you're right that "celebrity" or whatever shouldn't come into it, but we live in this world unfortunately. The Terminator would be in line for POTUS if only he'd been born there. Celebrity does play a part. I'd rather have Bez, with good intentions, elected off the back of the Happy Mondays than Next MP #2, with usual MP intentions (me, me, me, money, money, money) elected off the back of some lies in a manifesto.
 
Oh, I've no doubt that he'd at least make an effort. I just don't like the idea of any kind of credible precedent being set for this sort of shit, or we'll have every X-Factor runner up campaigning in no time.
 
Sammy G said:
a 'loveable', ecstasy-ravaged buffoon
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You rang? You say that like it's a bad thing. ;)

I'm not sure how you equate "populism" with right wing tendencies. What it boils down to is this: is he for the rich man or the poor man? Pretty sure it's the latter.

At the end of the day, how could he possibly do any worse than any generic member of an established party whose only concern is toeing the line and hanging onto the gravy train for as long as humanly possible, just so they don't have to go out and get a real job.

EDIT: facking hell - me and PTCH said the same thing with different words. Heh.
 
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I'm not sure how you equate "populism" with right wing tendencies.
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Look at every right-wing action by the previous two governments and you'll find they've all been populist in nature.

felix said:
At the end of the day, how could he possibly do any worse than any generic member of an established party whose only concern is toeing the line and hanging onto the gravy train for as long as humanly possible, just so they don't have to go out and get a real job.
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He probably wouldn't do any worse, but it's sad that it comes to this in the first place.
 
That's what it has come down to; figuring out 'what do the people want', and then promising them to deliver that, but as we have seen promises and manifestos do not get implemented in the real world when they get 'elected' one way or another. I use the word elected in quotes because as you know there was no one party with a sufficient majority to win the last election, and it fell to the liberal democrats to choose sides and to play kingmaker out of the tories or labour.
 
Sammy G said:
Look at every right-wing action by the previous two governments and you'll find they've all been populist in nature.
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I'm still not sure what you're getting at.

Was the bedroom tax a populist move?

Was the invasion of Iraq a populist move?

Almost everything governments do nowadays is carefully focus-grouped and spun in such a way that it is palatable to their core supporters. There is nothing intrinsically right or left wing about it, it's just the nature of politics.
 
felix said:
Was the bedroom tax a populist move?

Was the invasion of Iraq a populist move?
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The bedroom tax was introduced as part of welfare reforms which were essentially populist. The invasion of Iraq was far more controversial, granted. I'll give you that, even though you could argue that a million people marching in opposition doesn't in any way equate to a condemnation by the majority.

Does any of this make Bez's standing for MP any less farcical? No.
 
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