The "Thousand Mile Stare" from long-term steroid use?

^^definitely get off subs as soon as you can. Bupe withdrawals suck. Mild but drawn out
 
This is pretty old, ive been an etard, opiate addict, methadone and suboxone, and ive ran a "cycle" of steroids, unfortunatly
For your ex thats long term
Effect of steroid its a drug, thats why people cycle it to stay safe, at his point in life he should stay on, i cant beliebe howany people are telling you to get on
Methadone and suboxone there opiates, easier to get of but just as addicting, im 55 days clean right now, yes its my first successfully, yes im 26 my bodys regovering quicker, my point if you manage to stay yeats clean, a relapse is what set the depression in, us opiate addicts have altered out brain, do some reaearch on PAWS Post accute withdrawl, and your life
Situation seema pretty deppresing, happy people learb to deal with it thats the difference
 
^^PAWS is most definitely one rotten son of a bitch..it is not well known either(counselors rarely bring it up) but very common in my experience..many opiate addicts get clean and wonder why they still dont feel right, well there is a reason..reason i recommend subuxone is many opiate addicts cannot taper off or just quit cold turkey..they will fail miserably an relapse..at least with sub, you can get your life back on track and shortly after taper off and quit and have it be a much smoother ride..
 
Angelz87 said:
This is pretty old, ive been an etard, opiate addict, methadone and suboxone, and ive ran a "cycle" of steroids, unfortunatly
For your ex thats long term
Effect of steroid its a drug, thats why people cycle it to stay safe, at his point in life he should stay on, i cant beliebe howany people are telling you to get on
Methadone and suboxone there opiates, easier to get of but just as addicting, im 55 days clean right now, yes its my first successfully, yes im 26 my bodys regovering quicker, my point if you manage to stay yeats clean, a relapse is what set the depression in, us opiate addicts have altered out brain, do some reaearch on PAWS Post accute withdrawl, and your life
Situation seema pretty deppresing, happy people learb to deal with it thats the difference
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Sorry but steroids are not drugs they are hormones there is a big difference between drugs and hormones
 
Steroids are drugs... not in the usual sense but they're still drugs...
And angelz, steroids aren't as dangerous as other drugs.
 
flyhighk said:
Steroids are drugs... not in the usual sense but they're still drugs...
And angelz, steroids aren't as dangerous as other drugs.
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Testosterone is a natural principal male hormone, synthetic anabolic/androgenic steroids are modifications of that hormone in one of several ways:

Alkylation of the 17-Carbon
Esterification of the 17-OH group
Modification of the steroid nucleus: by the inclusion of double bonds, methylation, hydroxylation, dehydrogenation, reduction, epimerization etc..
 
Hey My Guys....

I never thought I'd type this sentence...I haven't done any H since February 25th at 5.p.m. My house burnt down, and the firemen found some bags and paraphenelia...so I was arrested, and in jail for 10 days. I kicked H in jail...I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I'm so happy and grateful to be here to say hello to all of you.
 
A drug is something which alters ones state of consciousness. Hormones and drugs are 2 completely different things. You can't say that our body produces its own drugs in the form of testosterone. Perhaps the only drug made by the human body is dmt but that's a completely different debate.

Testosterone does not fall into this definition thus, it is not a drug. End of debate.
 
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A drug is a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body or the body of another animal and is not considered a food or exclusively a food.
In pharmacology, a drug is "a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being."Drugs may be prescribed for a limited duration, or on a regular basis for chronic disorders.
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What you're talking about nolys, is a psychoactive drug. Drugs don't have to be psychoactive to be called drugs. Paracetamol, anabolics, caffeine and heroin are all drugs.
The definition may be different in the british english though.
I'm not trying to argue with you.
 
flyhighk said:
What you're talking about nolys, is a psychoactive drug. Drugs don't have to be psychoactive to be called drugs. Paracetamol, anabolics, caffeine and heroin are all drugs.
The definition may be different in the british english though.
I'm not trying to argue with you.
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Oh dear..... nolys gets arse kicked by 15yr old......lol
 
I an assuming there is as you said a difference in geographical terms... What your describing as drugs would be described as a medicine in the uk. A drug, in this area/culture is a mind altering substance. Caffeine is a drug as it has stimulant effects, nicotine also, alcohol, although not paracetamol, asprin or testosterone.
 
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nolys said:
I an assuming there is as you said a difference in geographical terms... What your describing as drugs would be described as a medicine in the uk. A drug, in this area/culture is a mind altering substance. Caffeine is a drug as it has stimulant effects, nicotine also, alcohol, although not paracetamol, asprin or testosterone.
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Benzodiazepines, amphetamine, opiates, dopamine agonists, 5-HT/ norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors etc are/were all drugs with therapeutic uses in the medical field... Caffeine, nicotine & alcohol have a social use... But all can be abused..!! I suppose all are technically drugs...!!!

Testosterone is a hormone... modified testosterone for androgenic/anabolic effects might technically be classed as a drug with abuse potential...

When does a hormone cease to be therapeutic and become a drug of abuse..? I suppose when it ceases to be used for TRT...!!

my 2c..
 
Anything that is psychoactive but medicinally used can either be a drug or medicine depending on the context, if somebody is abusing benzos or tramadol they are taking drugs, if somebody is using them for a medical reason it's a medicine...
Testosterone from this definition can't really be seen as a drug at all it has no potential for psychoactive abuse.I understand that in usa everything's a drug, you have drug stores... We have pharmacys. This is directed at flyhigh
 
We have pharmacies here too.
I guess some people consider anabolic hormones drugs like me, others don't.
 
nolys said:
Anything that is psychoactive but medicinally used can either be a drug or medicine depending on the context, if somebody is abusing benzos or tramadol they are taking drugs, if somebody is using them for a medical reason it's a medicine...
Testosterone from this definition can't really be seen as a drug at all it has no potential for psychoactive abuse.I understand that in usa everything's a drug, you have drug stores... We have pharmacys. This is directed at flyhigh
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Just because a compound doesn't have psychoactive properties doesn't make it not a drug...

Drug = A medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

1 a : a substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication
b : according to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary
(2) : a substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease
(3) : a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body
(4) : a substance intended for use as a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part, or accessory of a device

2: something and often an illicit substance that causes addiction, habituation, or a marked change in consciousness

Testosterone fits most of the above, although the basic compound comes under the definition of a hormone in medical literature, its use when applied exogenously could be shown to be as fitting the description of a drug, in most of the above cases...
 
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