Bupe Question about plugging Subxone..

[kanyeknievel]

So I'll keep this simple.

I haven't done opiates or any hard drug in 53 days now, in the beginning of this time ( I was on suboxone previously over a yera ago and then took kratom everyday until I binged 2 months ago again.

I wanted to go back to high dose of suboxone to get me through the beginning of feeling shitty, etc. from lack of dopamine and what not. So I took 4 , then 6, then 8. I have been on 8 for a month (because I read about the Kappa/Mu effects and found suboxone to serve more a purpose than keeping out of withdrawal). And I want to start to come down to 1mg and off.. but I was IVing the 8mg.

I know that I would most likely be fine by taking it sublingually instead, but I decided the best thing to do is plug it and then go down that way, then switch to sublingual in the end.

My question is... Since Subxone is an opioid and causes constipation and irregular bowel movements, how can I use this ROA everyday and have it be effective? LIke if I don't have to go to the bathroom or haven't yet, and I woke just woke up and know there is food in my stomach.. won't it get soaked up in the shit and loose a lot of its effectiveness?

If so, how can I make it that I DO have bowel movements regularly?


Thanks!

 

[RTrain]

Plugging Suboxone is practically pointless in my opinion. The absorption rate is too variable, so it makes it a pain to steadily dose. It hardly makes it kick in any faster than SL. And I am not sure if the bio-availability is any better than SL. If you use an alochol potentiation method you are likely to get = to or better BA than anything you will get from plugging.

Not to mention you are stuck squirting it up your ass everyday, instead of just popping it under your tongue. I think its pretty easy to determine which is an easier ROA to deal with.

 

[dirzted]

^^^^ This.

Alcohol method works much better than just plain sublingual so the transition from IV to SL won't be as bad, not to mention it's about a 1000x easier to deal with than plugging.

 

[Hammilton]

I tried plugging it twice. Both times I got migraines and felt like absolute shit. It was absolutely no good. I was buzzed but felt dirty and unpleasant. Not something I would recommend.

 

[kanyeknievel]

^^^^ This.

Alcohol method works much better than just plain sublingual so the transition from IV to SL won't be as bad, not to mention it's about a 1000x easier to deal with than plugging.

Can you explain the alcohol method and how to do it the best possible?

Because EVERYTIME I take it sublingually, I get so much saliva built up and try to keep it pooled in my mouth but need to swallow at some point and I feel like I am not getting most absorbed that way.

 

[dirzted]

Can you explain the alcohol method and how to do it the best possible?

Because EVERYTIME I take it sublingually, I get so much saliva built up and try to keep it pooled in my mouth but need to swallow at some point and I feel like I am not getting most absorbed that way.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...c-Solutions-for-Higher-BA-With-Sublingual-Use

^That should give you all the direction you need.

I have that same problem and it does suck but if you can keep just a 4mg alcohol prepped half- pill (in cotton) under your tongue for at least 5 min. than you should get basically all of the bupe absorbed, regardless if you swallow past that point or not. I say 4 mg since the less sub you have under your tongue, the quicker it dissolves, so if you can do just two seperate 4mg doses, that would cut down on the amount of time it takes for the pill to dissolve- i.e. you don't have to keep a huge pool of saliva in your mouth for ten minutes.