So I started snorting heroin about 3 weeks ago. I use mostly on the weekends on average Ill use 7-8 bags throughout the day. My problem is I dont seem to get that high I rarely nod out, I pretty much just feel nice. Previous to my recent heroin use I had no opiate tolerance. The last time I took any type of opiate was a few percocets I took on Christmas. I live in jersey so the dope is supposely good. My friends nods out from 2 bags. So is there something I'm doing wrong, is there a special way you're suppose to snort it?
-
BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards
Heroin question
- Thread starter drink
- Start date
T. Calderone
Bluelight Crew
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2010
- Messages
- 8,979
Snort it lightly so you're just sniffing to get absorbed. It's hard to explain but if you snort too hard it's like swallowing it.
Felonious Monk
Bluelight Crew
Exactly. You want it on your mucus membranes.
Felonious Monk
Bluelight Crew
Seems odd to me. It can be a subtle high, but that should get you fucked up, especially if your friend is.
Yeah I know it's subtle high, that why I love it. It's that feeling of peace and warmth, all my problems/anxieties melt away and I feel like everything will be okay. It just I go through so much dope to get there. I watched friend do two bags yesterday and he end up puking. Meanwhile I can do four feel a minor buzz. Do some people have a naturally high tolerance to heroin ? Perhaps I should try a different ROA ? I really dont think a first time user should be able to do 4 bag and still be able to function normally.
Flaga121
Bluelighter
- Joined
- Mar 2, 2014
- Messages
- 291
I know first time users with higher tolerance then myself as a two year addict. Tolerance to substances can be a very strange thing. Still, something doesn't sound quite right. I was never able to nod from H, but I always assumed the shitty VT dope played a role. Blowing dope is not the most effective ROA (of course), but rather then changing ROA to something with major addictive draw I'd switch to a substance with better Bioavail up your nose. OC, Dillys, ect, all work better then dope when blown or eaten, pricer, but it's worth it if it allows to to keep chipping. Addiction is very expensive.
LSDiesel
Bluelighter
could your friend be cutting your bags in an effort to try to make you dislike heroin (a true friend)
I'm assuming each 'bag' weighs approximately .1? Or should weigh that?
If you don't have a fairly large tolerance, which from you posts it seems as if you shouldn't have any tolerance at all, either your bags are getting half emptied, or cut the fuck down before they get to you.
.4 of average heroin in 2 hours should have you royally fucked up, if not puking non stop, given your tolerance.
Sure, some people have a naturally high tolerance to opiates, but even if your bags are skimp 7-8 bags should be well in excess of half a gram, for someone without a huge tolerance and not currently dependent on opiates half a gram in one day should have you far more fucked up than you'd ever want to be.
First I'd get a scale, 'bag' isn't a very good description of a dose, and if they weigh then I'd assume your shit is getting cut to the point of it barely being heroin.
Be very, very careful when dosing in the future in case you do actually get decent dope next time, even just .2 of 'good' dope to someone who isn't an addict should have you puking non stop.
I'd be wary of suggesting another ROA, injecting is the absolute last thing you should be thinking about, plugging is an option but it's not always the most reliable if you aren't completely cleared out and the OD danger goes up since when plugging it you aren't going to want to repeat it over and over like snorting lines so you end up doing a big dose from the start and given its high BA if that batch is stronger than you expect you could be in trouble.
Maybe try using a neti pot before snorting to make sure your sinuses are clear.
And yes, sniff lightly, you don't want any drip/drain whatsoever, if you are tasting it in your throat you are wasting it.
If you don't have a fairly large tolerance, which from you posts it seems as if you shouldn't have any tolerance at all, either your bags are getting half emptied, or cut the fuck down before they get to you.
.4 of average heroin in 2 hours should have you royally fucked up, if not puking non stop, given your tolerance.
Sure, some people have a naturally high tolerance to opiates, but even if your bags are skimp 7-8 bags should be well in excess of half a gram, for someone without a huge tolerance and not currently dependent on opiates half a gram in one day should have you far more fucked up than you'd ever want to be.
First I'd get a scale, 'bag' isn't a very good description of a dose, and if they weigh then I'd assume your shit is getting cut to the point of it barely being heroin.
Be very, very careful when dosing in the future in case you do actually get decent dope next time, even just .2 of 'good' dope to someone who isn't an addict should have you puking non stop.
I'd be wary of suggesting another ROA, injecting is the absolute last thing you should be thinking about, plugging is an option but it's not always the most reliable if you aren't completely cleared out and the OD danger goes up since when plugging it you aren't going to want to repeat it over and over like snorting lines so you end up doing a big dose from the start and given its high BA if that batch is stronger than you expect you could be in trouble.
Maybe try using a neti pot before snorting to make sure your sinuses are clear.
And yes, sniff lightly, you don't want any drip/drain whatsoever, if you are tasting it in your throat you are wasting it.
Last edited:
You're getting garbage. Plain and simple. Even if a lot of it ends up as drip, considering you just started using dope a few weeks ago, you shouldn't even be close to doing 8 bags a day.
Cut your losses and stop using, if for no other reason than monetary issues.
Cut your losses and stop using, if for no other reason than monetary issues.
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
^^^^
You've tried it & it's over-rated, so fuck it.
Do you have an usually high tolerance for other opiates? That's how I am, so I'd always be shooting as much if not more than my friends who had little habits, even when I was just chipping.
Unfortunately I dont have friends like that. I few years ago I use to have access to morphine tablets and I could use 400mgs a day. I would I agree with you that heroin is shit but friend was puking from two bags. I could cut my loses but currently opiates are my DOC. I might try plugging it to see if that helps.
LSDiesel
Bluelighter
What I said was meant to be half sarcastic. Maybe hes cutting the bags because HE wants the dope
laughingdead
Bluelighter
I am in Jersey too. My tolerance has skyrocketed recently but I am attributing it to having had to go on suboxone for a detox.
When you first started how much were you taking?
LSDiesel
Bluelighter
In all seriousness though, heroin sucks as a drug very quickly. If you have the choice to walk away from it, RUN please. This is my advice. There are much better drugs out there to mess around with that I wish I could afford on a more consistent basis but heroin eats up too much of my money.
Heroin is boring and coke is fake.
If you're still "trying out" a bunch of substances, my advice is to stick to things psychedelics. LSD, MDMA, Mushrooms, Mescaline, DMT, (maybe ketamine). Those are really "the best" drugs and given the right settings, they blow heroin out of the water, even in terms of euphoria. The peak of rolling on MDMA feels better to me than my best heroin high.
Don't go crazy with RCs though. Stick to the classics I mentioned. I know heroin is often much more plentiful and available in NJ though, and it's relatively cheap per dose. It's the one drug that I can say without a doubt that I wish I had never tried.
If you MUST do some kind of powder drug where you cut out the lines and everything (I know, I love the ritual even though it's dumb) I suppose I would say to give a ketamine habit a go before getting a heroin habit.
If you MUST do some kind of opioid, check out kratom. PM me if you wanna know more about kratom if you never heard of it. It's also LEGAL. Yes, you can purchase a substance that is totally legal to possess that is an opioid and gives a feeling that is similar to heroin, but much closer to feeling like eating 4 or 5 vicodens/norcos.
The nature of all opioid drugs though, including kratom is how quick and easy it is to get into a habit of using it, and tolerance going up quickly as well. Soon the kratom won't be enough, and you'll need to get oxy to make you feel like you're on an opioid. Then the oxy won't be enough... etc etc.
If you can control your usage of heroin, then you can control your usage of all opioids, so just switch to kratom. And you don't have to break the law! I know that sometimes that's half the fun though. The whole process of "copping dope", copping in the hood, making connections can be just as addicting as the drug itself,
Also, you could be getting bad dope and that's why you're not feeling it. You don't have to worry about that with kratom, since it's (generally) the same everytime, and isn't full of cuts and shit.
So my advice is just to avoid the whole class of opioids if you like enjoying your drug usage and having money to spare! However, go with the kratom if you must do opiods, but remember that you can get hooked even on just kratom. Once you're hooked on ANY opioid, it's very dangerous to do them again in the future, ESPECIALLY heroin. But if you had to be dopesick, it would be better to be kratom dopesick than heroin dopesick.
/end rant
sorry for sounding preachy, just trying to save a fellow NJer from possible future misery.
Heroin is boring and coke is fake.
If you're still "trying out" a bunch of substances, my advice is to stick to things psychedelics. LSD, MDMA, Mushrooms, Mescaline, DMT, (maybe ketamine). Those are really "the best" drugs and given the right settings, they blow heroin out of the water, even in terms of euphoria. The peak of rolling on MDMA feels better to me than my best heroin high.
Don't go crazy with RCs though. Stick to the classics I mentioned. I know heroin is often much more plentiful and available in NJ though, and it's relatively cheap per dose. It's the one drug that I can say without a doubt that I wish I had never tried.
If you MUST do some kind of powder drug where you cut out the lines and everything (I know, I love the ritual even though it's dumb) I suppose I would say to give a ketamine habit a go before getting a heroin habit.
If you MUST do some kind of opioid, check out kratom. PM me if you wanna know more about kratom if you never heard of it. It's also LEGAL. Yes, you can purchase a substance that is totally legal to possess that is an opioid and gives a feeling that is similar to heroin, but much closer to feeling like eating 4 or 5 vicodens/norcos.
The nature of all opioid drugs though, including kratom is how quick and easy it is to get into a habit of using it, and tolerance going up quickly as well. Soon the kratom won't be enough, and you'll need to get oxy to make you feel like you're on an opioid. Then the oxy won't be enough... etc etc.
If you can control your usage of heroin, then you can control your usage of all opioids, so just switch to kratom. And you don't have to break the law! I know that sometimes that's half the fun though. The whole process of "copping dope", copping in the hood, making connections can be just as addicting as the drug itself,
Also, you could be getting bad dope and that's why you're not feeling it. You don't have to worry about that with kratom, since it's (generally) the same everytime, and isn't full of cuts and shit.
So my advice is just to avoid the whole class of opioids if you like enjoying your drug usage and having money to spare! However, go with the kratom if you must do opiods, but remember that you can get hooked even on just kratom. Once you're hooked on ANY opioid, it's very dangerous to do them again in the future, ESPECIALLY heroin. But if you had to be dopesick, it would be better to be kratom dopesick than heroin dopesick.
/end rant
sorry for sounding preachy, just trying to save a fellow NJer from possible future misery.
Last edited:
Above&Beyond
Greenlighter
- Joined
- Jan 4, 2014
- Messages
- 20
Props. That post was pretty badass.