Always get the Same LSD(?)?

[Solipsis]

Excellent!

 

[Xorkoth]

Great Erowid article. It basically says what I have been thinking: if you're not a person who happens to be a "node" in the LSD distribution network, it may appear that it's not available. But if you are, then you will realize it's available.

This goes back to "just because YOU don't know where to get it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist". This can be said of many things in life.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

The scale to which Pickard manufactured LSD was absolutely staggering.
He was able to acquire extremely large amounts of precursors, many of which are now controlled even tighter.
It makes sense why the availability of LSD has dropped so much, just because someone is manufacturing LSD doesn't mean they have to be able to push out the 5kg every five weeks that Pickard supposedly was producing
Just because the synthesis is difficult doesn't mean it's impossible or that there aren't probably thousands or maybe tens of thousands of people in the world who would be capable of doing it.

Well the government claims it was like 1kg, not 5, according to the wiki, and i think the wiki even mentions that's a government (cough trumped up) figure.

You can't just make like 100 or even 1000 hits, even if a small cook occurred, it'd be hundreds of thousands of doses (and considering most LSD is probably like 50mg, and doses are considered more like 150ug, it's even more, I mean I dont know how much LSD is on the hits I've always taken but considering a single hit is rather mild and still 'sober' and less of a full blown trip, but I'm guessing yea, like 50mg) and enough to influence the market significantly.

do never ingest those reagents. not only are the compounds in there poisonous, but also quite caustic. the ehrlich reagent is 50% concentrated HCl. it has a negative pH and if you had just half a ml of that reagent solution, you'd have to dilute it in about half a liter of water to get it to the same acidity of lemon juice.

Okay, got it. So dip the 1/4 of acid into the test, then take it out of the test, shake it with a half gallon of water, drink the water. Great idea.

I know that relatively LSD is not the easiest to make and relatively NBOMe's and similar compounds are on a rise but it would be exaggerating to think that LSD is completely gone. It is still found and still positively tested. Isn't there a microgram bulletin to show this to you?

Sure, leftover hits from Pickard.

I don't know what else to say to convince you but I don't want this thread becoming one where people are invited to tell about LSD sources. We have rules against that and I would find it kinda pathetic if you keep sticking to your point. I guess that is the fundamentalism Ballz is talking about.

We aren't discussing sources here, we're discussing where shit comes from (not a source, just like a general idea). We're not talking about "Yo alex jones cooks it on 24th st in Chicago', we're talking about 'There's a report in the news that a lot is found in San Francisco and there's an active lab around there that's produced by the Sicilian Mafia'.

So it is entirely possible you are just have been getting LSD for a decade which would be crazy considering your stance..

Sure. Like I said, it seems more likely that it's probably not LSD because all those testers like DIMS and erowid find the overwhelming majority of the time, it's an RC, so I'm probably getting RCs every time like every other sucker especially considering 90% of availiability went down after Pickard's bust so that probably he means he was the only active chemist in the last 20 years. Maybe I have gotten LSD every time, who knows. When my NIK test arrives I'll let you know the results of it.

Also I am really disinterested in this Pickard stuff

Word? I'm really disinterested in this afghanistan stuff but that's where europe gets it's heroin.

As for that erowid article, what the fuck. They basically say 'we have no evidence or idea at all that LSD is available or still manufactured or distributed, but it's really hard to bust and detect if it's out there, so we're going to talk out of our ass and say it's still out there'. Come on. A better ending to that would've been the truth, 'we have no fucking clue'.

edit: dang i've been here longer than people who are staff. that's crazy (ie creativerandom).

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

Wow! It's like trying to have a conversation with a brick wall... If you do drink that reagent test, at this point, you deserve everything that will happen to you. Why would anyone even bother asking for advice if they've pre-decided to not listen to any???
Just astonishing!

 

[Xorkoth]

Sure. Like I said, it seems more likely that it's probably not LSD because all those testers like DIMS and erowid find the overwhelming majority of the time, it's an RC, so I'm probably getting RCs every time like every other sucker (i mean it's enjoyable, whatever, I'll still pay half a grand for like a sheet or something), especially considering 90% of availiability went down after Pickard's bust so that probably he means he was the only active chemist in the last 20 years. Maybe I have gotten LSD every time, who knows. When my NIK test arrives I'll let you know the results of it.

By definition, if Picard was out of the game and production went down 90%, that means 10% is still happening without him. So he couldn't be the only active chemist. Besides there are many people who have the skills necessary to produce LSD. It's not like only the Michael Jordan of chemistry can do it. Anyone with the appropriate level of training, practice and education can perform that synthesis. People want it so obviously some individuals have taken up that call to fill that need. It's the way people and civilizations work.

I mean don't you think that sounds ridiculous to suggest that only 1 in the world person was producing LSD while he was doing it? That's incredibly unlikely. Before him, in the 60s there were multiple chemists producing it.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Wow! It's like trying to have a conversation with a brick wall... If you do drink that reagent test, at this point, you deserve everything that will happen to you. Why would anyone even bother asking for advice if they've pre-decided to not listen to any???
Just astonishing!

I'm not asking for dipshit 'herp derp don't do it cuz ur not suppose to silly!'. I'm asking for a fucking explanation. I'm pretty fucking aware you aren't 'supposed' to drink the reagant or HCI, if someone can tell me why dipping what's probably a fraction of a drop (ie a .25ich^2 soaked piece of blotter) in 50% HCI and then diluting it with a half gallon of water and drinking it would cause serious bodily harm, I'm all ears. I don't need more fucking retarded posts saying 'herp derp dont do it'.

I know small amounts of HCI can be very dangerous to ingest. But a drop? I'm not sure that's that dangerous, especially if heavily diluted.

Fucking trolls. God forbid you want to be better informed around here and not be a fucking parrot.

By definition, if Picard was out of the game and production went down 90%, that means 10% is still happening without him. So he couldn't be the only active chemist. Besides there are many people who have the skills necessary to produce LSD. It's not like only the Michael Jordan of chemistry can do it. Anyone with the appropriate level of training, practice and education can perform that synthesis. People want it so obviously some individuals have taken up that call to fill that need. It's the way people and civilizations work.

Well, that may also mean that availability went down 90% because 10% is Pickard's stock that got out before he was busted, or from cooks even before Pickard that haven't all been used up yet. So he could be the only active chemist in the last 15 years.

Might not take michael jordan to cook acid, but it does take like, an NCAA star to do it, and on top of that, an NCAA star who has access to a high level university or commercial lab, which there are less than 50 labs capable of such, on top of that, access to some crazy restricted precursors. Not to mention tons of money to fund the cook (each hit might only cost 29 cents to make, but you still need to pay $10,000 for that ergotine stuff). One of the posts around here linked to it, but you really have to know someone, on top of the orgo background, on top of having access to one of these ~20 labs and the free reign to use it for a week, to do such a cook.

. People want it so obviously some individuals have taken up that call to fill that need. It's the way people and civilizations work.

Well, not really. People dont really want it, as you can see, RCs have taken up the niche pretty well. I'm sure people would love them so barbituates, by benzos have pretty much taken over that market. Sure, someone could make barbituates and make a ton of money, but you'd make way more money for less trouble by just making, or hell stealing, benzos.

It's called opportunity cost. I could make a lot of money flipping burgers, but why would I do that when I can get a better job.

I mean don't you think that sounds ridiculous to suggest that only 1 in the world person was producing LSD while he was doing it? That's incredibly unlikely. Before him, in the 60s there were multiple chemists producing it.

Given the availability of LSD in the last 10 years, the figures on how Pickard's bust resulted in at least a reduction of 90% availability, and the extreme amount of difficulty in finding LSD? No, I really don't think it's that unlikely. It seems more like to me that it's all RCs, as erowid, and various testing sites have shown time and time again, and/or it's stock still floating around from back in the day, seeing as a single cook makes millions of street doses.

Anyways, I got a question: How can I find out what the dosage is on the hits that I've come across? Is there a way to test for that somehow?

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Has anyone here bought LSD on any dark net markets? I've been looking through them, to get an idea of LSD availability, and maybe there are lots of cooks. Who knows...

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

Has anyone here bought LSD on any dark net markets? I've been looking through them, to get an idea of LSD availability, and maybe there are lots of cooks. Who knows...

Since you've been at BL so long you should know about no sourcing rules... Answering that question would break that rule.

 

[Transform]

Hello Theodore,

Please could you re-read the rules before posting further. I've already had to remove price detail from your posts and now you're asking about darknet markets. Vendor discussion and availability discussion is also verboten in PD.

Additionally, if posters in this thread cannot remain civil and on topic then it will be closed. This is the last time I will intervene before simply cleansing this thread of all posts by anyone flaming, sourcing or derailing.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Has anyone here bought LSD on any dark net markets? I've been looking through them, to get an idea of LSD availability, and maybe there are lots of cooks. Who knows...

I haven't bought any, but I guarantee you that LSD made it's rounds on Silk Road, I read an interview with these guys who would test all the 'acid' sources on there, and it would appear much of it was the real deal. And clearly, a number of us have had LSD recently. Last stuff I had was in the end of 2012, in the Southern US. I haven't seen anything but nbomes since then, but I do know a person or two who have had it again (and they would know).

I think before the nbome explosion in 2013, it was honestly not too hard to find it. In 2012, it basically found me, my friend would just ask randomly if we wanted to get doses, we'd go meet some dude I'd never met before (different every time lol), and we'd get genuine LSD. The nbomes were the cheapest and most potent 'replacement' to date, until then from what I've read there wasn't much that would fit on such a tiny piece of paper, etc. and even then, stuff like DOx chemicals or bromo-dragonfly didn't make the rounds like the nbomes have.

From everything you've described about your doses, I'm 99.99999% sure you've had real acid the whole time.

 

[DOB]

I believe theres one major lab around here,allways same paper,same medium potency... never weak,never too strong,allways lsd no RCs,same blotter,same art

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I doubt most labs would lay it on blotter themselves, much easier to just sell it as crystal or liquid and have someone else lay it for them
I could be wrong though, perhaps they want to brand their products like the old hunab kus or mad hatters

 

[Dresden]

Basically, yes, d-LSD still exists, but overall availability is way down from the 1990s.

I don't think anyone can effectively argue against that statement.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

NIK test kit came in, tested 1/4 of a single ~.2in^2 hit. Ampuoules 1, 2, 3 observed No Change - Purple - Purple, as to indicate LSD.

So over the last 10 years or so, I've only done LSD, and have never done an RC (or one that is noticeably different in effect, onset, or duration).

The box came with 10 tests, so I have 9 extra. Apparently dude wants us to front an overpriced amount for the sheet (i mean not so overpriced that it's unheard of, just expensive going by street prices)', I don't know why my gf left out that little detail, so it looks like a no-go yet again. Oh well, I'll just get it off darknet.

Hello Theodore,

Please could you re-read the rules before posting further. I've already had to remove price detail from your posts and now you're asking about darknet markets. Vendor discussion and availability discussion is also verboten in PD.

Additionally, if posters in this thread cannot remain civil and on topic then it will be closed. This is the last time I will intervene before simply cleansing this thread of all posts by anyone flaming, sourcing or derailing.

Not asking to cite something like the now defunct silk road, I'm simply asking if many people around here have used darknet markets.

Maybe sourcing rules have changed, but in the past while you couldn't say something like 'yea go down to corner of Brice and Edmonson in Baltimore for dope (which hasnt been a 'spot' in years, I havent done dope over 5 years so obviously it's not my vendor/source, i dont think the place even exists anymore in that form, and even the wire showcased that as a spot so it's not a secret), you could say something like 'west side baltimore across the tracks has a lot of heroin', or 'chinese websites sell benzos'.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

NIK test kit came in, tested 1/4 of a single ~.2in^2 hit. Ampuoules 1, 2, 3 observed No Change - Purple - Purple, as to indicate LSD.

So over the last 10 years or so, I've only done LSD, and have never done an RC (or one that is noticeably different in effect, onset, or duration).

The box came with 10 tests, so I have 9 extra. Apparently dude wants us to front an overpriced amount for the sheet (i mean not so overpriced that it's unheard of, just expensive going by street prices)', I don't know why my gf left out that little detail, so it looks like a no-go yet again. Oh well, I'll just get it off darknet.


Not asking to cite something like the now defunct silk road, I'm simply asking if many people around here have used darknet markets.

Maybe sourcing rules have changed, but in the past while you couldn't say something like 'yea go down to corner of Brice and Edmonson in Baltimore for dope (which hasnt been a 'spot' in years, I havent done dope over 5 years so obviously it's not my vendor/source, i dont think the place even exists anymore in that form, and even the wire showcased that as a spot so it's not a secret), you could say something like 'west side baltimore across the tracks has a lot of heroin', or 'chinese websites sell benzos'.

Personally, I'd pay a premium for a sheet right now man. Consider yourself a lucky individual.

 

[Transform]

Maybe sourcing rules have changed, but in the past while you couldn't say something like 'yea go down to corner of Brice and Edmonson in Baltimore for dope (which hasnt been a 'spot' in years, I havent done dope over 5 years so obviously it's not my vendor/source, i dont think the place even exists anymore in that form, and even the wire showcased that as a spot so it's not a secret), you could say something like 'west side baltimore across the tracks has a lot of heroin', or 'chinese websites sell benzos'.

Maybe they have changed, and maybe that's exactly why I asked you to read them. Specifically, the PD guidelines. We do not allow availability or price discussion here.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Done.

Hey so I didn't even need to use 1/4th of a tab for the test, it triggered pretty obviously right away. You could probably test with like a tiny sliver, the color change is really obvious and sharp.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

How do people test for how much LSD is in a hit? I see sellers always make claims like 140ug, how can they know that?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

How do people test for how much LSD is in a hit? I see sellers always make claims like 140ug, how can they know that?

They probably measured it out in a solution then made an estimate of how much each is. I'm sure the equipment needed to weigh micro-grams would be rather expensive.

 

[Clocktower]

The backlight test is ineffective on WoW blotters because, quite often, white paper glows under blacklight independently of whether there's LSD on it.