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A couple of questions about dissociative anesthesia....

Not oevs on low to medium doses, some cevs maybe. Not traditional psychedelic visuals tho.. when holing, cevs yeah, pretty intense. I dont even remember that well, its been a while since my last m-hole. Ive never tried ketamine but im looking forward to as soon as i get my hands on it.. seems to be super rare in this country.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756617/

This is a very informative package about mxe, i highly recommend it
 
Yeah the visual experience is very much different. When going for high-dose dissociative experiences, closed eyes is the way to go. Open eyes, nothing you look at makes sense.

I bet MXE + LSD would be a wicked combo. I would like to try MXE + a tryptamine sometime. Or maybe even a phenethylamine, one like 2C-E at least. Oh my god, MXE + 2C-E would probably be incredibly intense. Whoa... 8o
 
xammy said:
Not oevs on low to medium doses, some cevs maybe. Not traditional psychedelic visuals tho.. when holing, cevs yeah, pretty intense. I dont even remember that well, its been a while since my last m-hole. Ive never tried ketamine but im looking forward to as soon as i get my hands on it.. seems to be super rare in this country.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756617/

This is a very informative package about mxe, i highly recommend it
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Ah gotcha, yeah, I thought you meant even when holing.... Ketamine was very nice the time I tried it, it comes highly recommended. :) I would love to find some more of it as well....

Thanks for the link, that looks very comprehensive! I'll definitely check it out. ^_^

Xorkoth said:
Yeah the visual experience is very much different. When going for high-dose dissociative experiences, closed eyes is the way to go. Open eyes, nothing you look at makes sense.

I bet MXE + LSD would be a wicked combo. I would like to try MXE + a tryptamine sometime. Or maybe even a phenethylamine, one like 2C-E at least. Oh my god, MXE + 2C-E would probably be incredibly intense. Whoa... 8o
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I would definitely be doing it in my room in the dark. :D I would want to get the most I possibly could out of it....

Hehe, I would like to try all of those. ;) LSD still gets a special place in my heart though; my main thought was that since LSD is basically just like a ruthlessly hedonistic pleasure trip for me in a way that no other psychedelic has matched up to yet it would be pretty fun to literally *become* that trip....

Hey, here's another question, for you or anyone else who wants to answer it.... How do cannabinoids impact that tactile aspect of dissociative hallucinations? When I'm sober or on psychedelics, cannabinoids bring an extreme amount of attention to my body; do they do something similar with dissociative sensations? I really do like making the tactile aspect of these sorts of hallucinations as intense as possible....

I wonder how LSD + MDA + MXE would fare?
 
Cannabis potentiates dissociatives sort of like it does with psychedelics. It makes the experience stronger, more immersive, more crazy. It definitely makes MXE way stronger; I smoked on my recent trip I wrote the TR about which was one of my deepest and most intense trips on anything, ever.
 
I need to read that report, I've been avoiding the TR section since I'm supposed to be working on a very long one as well.... That makes sense though, and it's good to know. :) I'm excited.... I've got some fun combination ideas in mind now hehe.
 
I don't get 'visuals' either on dissociatives. In a K-hole, "I" am in a totally different demension...while the state is NOTHING like a Salvia hole...that place comes to mind in that the 'visuals' are really a completely different place.

Coming out of a Khole things tend to like 'shiny' and often stretched...more akin to pot visuals than anything.

On 3-MeO-PCP I did not have visuals but instead had distortion of body image and general distortion of surrounding objects...things would stretch or appear reshaped...but no 'visuals' like that of a psychedelic.
 
That makes sense.... How do psychedelic visuals mix with those kinds of effects? Like I said, the closest I've gotten is mixing 2C-I and ketamine, and the combination was great that I noticed that the psychedelic patterns and stuff became less prevalent and the impact of the trip was more like I was seeing that other world you're speaking of starting to form but it seemed to have a very psychedelic architecture that was definitely based on the 2C-I.... Is that how it is at full doses too?
 
^id like to know that too, thinking of mixing some mxe with LSD
 
Well, I haven't mixed psychedelics and dissociatives yet, but there are hundreds of reports attesting to the nature of those kinds of trips, particularly with tryptamines. I want to try in the future for sure.
 
Gotcha, I may have to do some more reading around then.... Yeah, I definitely want to try mixing some tryptamines in. DMT seems like it would go particularly well with arylcyclohexylamines hehe.
 
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