Porn Appreciation Thread V. Druginfluenced Megawanking

[Marmalade]

no, no... I did say "probably" or "possibly" in each backstory, I was never claiming each one to be fact....I was trying to point out there's usually a lot more going on behind each pic and it's ignorant to take them at face value. the examples I gave were open possibilities, not factual evidence.

I don't take anything at face value like this ... I'm certainly not going to be negatively biased about their reasons tho that's for sure. They're single shots of models from a set they'll have done on that day. Places like Suicide Girls (who specialise in those girls with tattoos you love so much) are places women go to because they enjoy showing their bodies, and they have an online profile too. There isn't much money in it, and they get to choose what they do and in what setting. They're not doing it generally to feed a habit, and they aren't porn stars per se

Barring librarian chick, and the one with a bit of red lipstick on, the women look pretty natural all round, hardly any make up at all.

 

[Shambles]

Barring librarian chick, and the one with a bit of red lipstick on, the women look pretty natural all round, hardly any make up at all.

Aside from the woman wearing the veil (naqab?) perhaps. Hard to tell for obvious reasons but I've heard that heavy make-up is fairly standard beneath the veil.

 

[Raasyvibe]

Places like Suicide Girls (who specialise in those girls with tattoos you love so much) are places women go to because they enjoy showing their bodies, and they have an online profile too. There isn't much money in it, and they get to choose what they do and in what setting. They're not doing it generally to feed a habit, and they aren't porn stars per se

Yeah but then again they do it 'coz they like getting attention. Is it really good attention though?

There's loads of great woman out there, who can get attention through sensitivity, commitment, helping others etc...and find fulfilment in that way. The ones who have to get tattoos and objectify themselves to get attention aren't (imo) so admirable. It doesn't require much brain cells to do and doesn't really do any good in the world. Apart from creating a few transient masterbations.

And then it sets standards of objectification. Other people think they have to be the same and if they're not they won't be liked etc... I think if you care for someone their body image is no issue whatsoever and we should strive to overcome this physical perception towards people that causes them to develop issues. My younger sister came up to me once and complained about her nose being big, to which I laughed at her and said "are you kidding? it doesn't matter what shape/size it is, it doesn't affect how I think of you at all!?"... Someone close to me attempted actual "suicide" because of body image as a teenager; I'm sure sites like suicide girls which display much objectification play a part in creating that negative thinking. So the issue is a little close to heart.

Anyway i'll stop now coz last time I said all this, i nearly got my head bitten off.

 

[Shambles]

Anyway i'll stop now coz last time I said all this, i nearly got my head bitten off.

That would be because you're projecting your own issues with sexuality on others who apparently don't have any such issue with their own. Whilst nobody is likely to argue that objectification of women is a problem and does cause much misery, that doesn't mean that nobody is capable of making their own decisions. I've known women (and indeed men for that matter) who are insecure about themselves and seek approval through debasing themselves, I've also known women who are supremely confident in themselves, their body image and their sexuality and just happen to enjoy flaunting it. It's not all or nothing either way, both ends of the spectrum exist along with infinite variations in between.

 

[Raasyvibe]

That would be because you're projecting your own issues with sexuality on others who apparently don't have any such issue with their own.

No, wrong guess. And I'm not projecting views here either, or at least I hope not, just trying to contribute to discussion.

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With consideration of not protracting the above post too much I accept I've not catered for each individual person. Reasons for displaying body image and how far this is pursued vary person to person undoubtedly. From re-assurance, pressure from peers, wanted attention etc but using body image to get attention is inherently wrong (IMO). It starts off with your models who get paid a ton for it, this then makes it to each avenue of the media and then has an impressionable impact on people, particularly younger etc etc etc

Sure we've had this discussion 10 times now

 

[Shambles]

No, wrong guess.

Wasn't a guess - it's an observation.

You also seem to have rather limited knowledge of the whole modelling-cum-porn (fnarr) industry and associated media. If you think that every girl who has pix taken or posted online gets "paid a ton" you've got another think coming. Mcuh of it - particularly the kinda thing Marmz tends to post - isn't paid at all. It's done cos they want to do it cos they like it. The kinda people you're thinking of are the big-name pron starlets - they get paid a lot but they have a rather short career so I don't blame 'em for demanding decent pay considering the profits they make for their employers. There's also a whole world of amateur models who pose and produce for the pleasure of it. That pleasure comes in various forms and depends on the individual.

Me and my ex fiance worked around the outskirts of the porn industry and I certainly know about the exploitation involved in certain aspects of it. I also know a bit about the other side which is completely different. You can lump it all together as much as you like but you're just plain wrong.

 

[Raasyvibe]

You also seem to have rather limited knowledge of the whole modelling-cum-porn (fnarr) industry and associated media....

.....If you think that every girl who has pix taken or posted online gets "paid a ton" you've got another think coming

No Shambles I do not think that, but I was writing a paragraph not a book so I was describing the case somewhat candidly and not going into specific details.

There's also a whole world of amateur models who pose and produce for the pleasure of it. That pleasure comes in various forms and depends on the individual.

Yeah but I mean, I can guarantee you that if they're not being paid, or coerced into it, almost always those "reasons" will be ego-related. Self-serving. Coz as I said, absolutely no good comes from it.

AND you can't blaim 'em completely. We all like to feel desirable, it's human nature. It's re-assuring, builds confidence etc. I was living with a model recently and she was a lovely person, really nice person. Bit screwed up, but kind in heart!

But the bigger picture, is on a physical level we are NOT all equal and perfect, so flaunting yourself as a human who's particularly shaped better than many others, is undoubtedly going to piss lot's of people off.

 

[Marmalade]

But the bigger picture, is on a physical level we are NOT all equal and perfect, so flaunting yourself as a human who's particularly shaped better than many others, is undoubtedly going to piss lot's of people off.

what the fuck

LOL...Dispoportionate arse-to-body ratio

WTF? again no face... probably some insecure woman who's been dumped a few too many times, trying to feel attractive by taking pics

and to a natural woman, who's probably labelled by nutters as curvy/chubby/plump:

Fucking hell...what has she pumped into those breasts that were probably big enough as it was? You gotta be a bit mucked up to take pictures like that... probably again, been dumped by loads of guys and made "drastic", regrettable changes to her body to feel good about herself.

S'cuse me .. I'm off to go get wasted on a fuckton of lovely crystals

'nite all

 

[Shambles]

Got little to add to that. Mz Marmz always was better at explaining exactly why you're not only wrong but hypocritical with this stuff, Raas. As such, I'll just repeat that you are wrong plain and simple. And - as Marmz has pointed out a number of times - wrong in more than one way. You may be the one thinking there's some kinda moral superiority in regularly pointing out the problems with aspects of the porn industry, but you're also the one spilling wildy offensive, sexist, objectifying comments about women in almost every post. I honestly think you could do with wanking some of this pointless and unnecessary guilt out of your system. Can't be any worse for you than all this repression cos that really isn't doing you any favours.

 

[Raasyvibe]

EDIT:

In regard to quoted comments above:



I guess I was trying to discredit the notion that they are meant to be arousing us and rebel against it somewhat, by making it clear the perspective is wrong.

I was deliberately challenging the extollation they have received by being posted for our gratification.

Also remember these are people who put themselves up for public display, people i don't know or ever will. So I don't feel so bad about presenting stark critique.

I'm trying to dispel the eulogisation which they are seeking, and people are falsely giving them.

Though I will accept it is a sensitive issue and that particular post was extremely flippant. I did admit to semi-trolling a comment or 2.

As I said before, I know how incredibly sensitive the ego is and this most likely has a role to play in the production of these pictures... which is why I say gawping over the pictures is wrong and ignorant, people are more complicated and should be viewed as such.

And - as Marmz has pointed out a number of times - wrong in more than one way. You may be the one thinking there's some kinda moral superiority in regularly pointing out the problems with aspects of the porn industry, but you're also the one spilling wildy offensive, sexist, objectifying comments about women in almost every post.

You haven't really answered my post and your accusations that my incentive for concern is to feel some kind of "moral superiority" just isn't so. I'm only trying to present the truth and create awareness of the circumstances and repercussions of these pictures as I see it.

if my posts are read properly, I think it's clear that I'm trying to empathise with people involved and look for reasons why and not to judge them:~

AND you can't blaim 'em completely. We all like to feel desirable, it's human nature. It's re-assuring, builds confidence etc. I was living with a model recently and she was a lovely person, really nice person. Bit screwed up, but kind in heart!

Is that really seeking moral superiority!?

You tend to ignore a lot of the content of my posts and keen to demonise me by focussing on the one post which did come across a bit careless (for reasons I explained above)

 

[Marmalade]

Ok this convo is ace n all but can we get back on topic please?

THANKS IN ADVANCE ;p

NSFW:

 

[parttime crackhead]

Aye, stop being an idiot and check this out Raas.

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What's your professional opinion of that?

 

[Raasyvibe]

Aye, stop being an idiot and check this out Raas.



What's your professional opinion of that?

If I could stop nauseating for a second, i'd say it's not as impressive as this one:

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Now that's an impressive party piece.

 

[Marmalade]

Good to see you didn't put up any objection to being classed as a professional either.

Progression in leaps n bounds, Bearlove will be mightily impressed I recon.

 

[Shambles]

leaps n bounds

They certainly do

(i think i may have mild-moderate penii envy too)

 

[One Thousand Words]

Agree Shambles,the boobs in the last picture don't look fake to me, they just look naturally large.
I can't recall where I saw it but someone posted photographs of pornstars with & without makeup on and the difference was astonishing.You would honestly think that they were different people as they looked totally different once makeup had been plastered on.

You have obviously not had too many one night stands.

It's called a walk of shame for a reason. Now, should I call you a cab?

 

[Shambles]

You have obviously not had too many one night stands.

Me neither. Can't stand 'em myself. Actually that's not quite true cos have rather enjoyed the handful I've had but I still find it all a bit awkward and not something I ever look for. Am just a bit of a slut is all

 

[Raasyvibe]

I don't have a lot to offer in regards to porn on my hard-drive.

I've just had a rummage and found 1 picture.

Now, can you all do me a favour and have at least one jerk-off to this handsome couple:

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[Shambles]

That's surprisingly tasteful and erotic for what I might have expected, Raas. Wouldn't really call it porn due to the lack of... well... porn. But a nice pic all the same.

(i know, you're gonna inform us all that that's actually you and your ex aren't you)

 

[Raasyvibe]

(i know, you're gonna inform us all that that's actually you and your ex aren't you)

Please give me some credit. I'm not sad enough to photo myself and ex naked and present it to all the users on the forum I post on.

I mean, WHO would possibly be that sad!? What kind of person would ACTUALLY DO THAT!?