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Alcoholism Discussion Thread Version 6.0

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Yeah man, I mean, maybe one day we can do it but I think most of us here have just formed a bad habit from early on in life. Time to relearn and go a different direction. It's not the end :).
 
Yes it is all about learning to change your behavior.

Here's what I did for a craving for alcohol I had the other night.

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My roommates were drinking beer with dinner and I was annoyed I could not have any. I found it odd how they only had one each and my one roommate did not even finish all of his but they can and do drink normally.

Last night I was reading a book where characters were drinking a lot. They drank whiskey, martinis, and Pernod. I started to crave Anise based drinks like Ouzo.

I wrote down the anise flavored alcohols I was craving on a piece of paper. The next day when I woke up I crossed them off and ripped up the paper, and then made a chai with anise in it.


Then later that night my one roommate congratulated me for not drinking or using drugs and staying sober for years.
 
Ugh.... Well it's taken 7 months for me to finally find myself over here. I haven't been very active on Bluelight for years but I used to be HUUGGGE into drugs. I've tried so many fucking drugs it's laughable. I've been addicted to so many different things. I've been through withdrawal many times. Finally I just couldn't stand it anymore and quit. And moved on promptly to drinking every night to get my fix.

It started out not very problematic, but it's finally starting to catch up to me. My tolerance has almost doubled or tripled since I started. I used to drink 6 pints and pass out in bed. Now 12 is no problem. The hangovers are getting severe. Some days I wake up and I can't do anything, my body just feels so weak. I shake a lot, though I can't really tell if it's withdrawal or not. Sometimes it gets so bad I can hardly put a glass up to my mouth. Sometimes it's absent. Like right now I haven't had a drink in maybe 22 hours and I'm not noticably shaky or anything. Sometimes I throw up for seemingly no reason when drinking. My diet is suffering terribly, I often don't eat in the morning because I feel so awful. My appetite gets better throughout the day but it never gets back to where it used to be. I have diarrhea constantly.

The worst thing is the anxiety. I get so anxious sometimes as I sober up throughout the day. Also my skin flushes a lot. It's hard to imagine why anyone would want to put up with all this shit. But I guess like getting drunk. I just hate all the side effects. Starting to consider drying up for a while.

Does anyone notice that their face takes on a swollen look as you progress with this disease? About a week ago at least 2 people commented that my face was getting fatter. My eyes are often quite puffy too. Constant dark circles under the eyes. Not exactly a great look :(
 
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Does anyone notice that their face takes on a swollen look as you progress with this disease? About a week ago at least 2 people commented that my face was getting fatter. My eyes are often quite puffy too. Constant dark circles under the eyes. Not exactly a great look :(
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Since alcohol dehydrates the body, it can cause a puffy face (edema) and water retention. Try to drink more water, and also exercise for about 15-20 minutes/day could help <3
 
The few times i posted in here it was me saying how much of an alcoholic i am and how much life sucks (addcited to heroin to) and how id never be able to get clean. well, 34 days no dope and 5 days from now ill have 2 months no alcohol. Feels so god damn good. i still smoke weed occasionally(actually gets me fucking ripped now ha) and not habitually but i want to cut that out to. ill be off subs soon as well. This vivotrol shot is really helping.
 
I was the biggest alcoholic in the world for 15 years . Alcohol is ste strongest most Addictive drug you can get any time and not deal with a punk ass dealer. It will tAke over everything you'll either be too nervous or drunk to leave the house so glad I quit aLmost 3 years now
 
I also am glad that I'm sober.

I do sometimes crave the flavor of certain drinks like Anise based ones; but then I'll just make a coffee or food that tastes like it and have that instead, or just not drink and the craving for alcohol passes.
 
for me,so much shit has happened in the last few days that i had a half bottle of whiskey.
that was of course very stupid.
luckily drink isn't my drug of choice and i don't crave it.
just needed a good old blackout to get to fucking sleep.
 
^^ Technically passing out isn't the same thing as sleeping - scientifically speaking anyway. You aren't getting "rest". I know the feeling of just needing to drink yourself to oblivion though, it's not an easy feeling to overcome. I just try to remember the fact that there is nothing so bad or so stressful that drinking and using won't make it worse.
 
true,but i had been awake for very long.
think just laying down even if it isn't real sleep helped.
 
Perhaps obviously, people need to keep in mind that a slip-up is just that: a temporary mistake. It doesn't render worthless all the sober time that you put in earlier. However, this is not a justification for further 'slip-ups'.

ebola
 
well i just got out of county after doing about 20 days and im already drunk, i cant afford to screw this up though i have like 5 or 6 hours to sober up, im not that drunk right now but at this moment i dont know if i have place to stay, I think i do but if my mom thinks im drunk im back on the streets, i think im going to switch back to dope, it getsx me in less trouble
 
does anyone know how far the chronic list extends, or is just when they choose to enforce it
 
non-dependent alcohol abuse

i see there is an alcoholism mega thread, but a quick glance at the posts makes me think it is too broad for what i am talking about. if there is already a thread on this, or if i did not give the mega thread enough of a read, feel free to merge.

quitting a drug completely because that will improve your quality of life is extremely difficult when you do not meet the typical definition of an addict for that drug and do not experience the associated consequences. but even if it is only once every two weekends and i go all work week without thinking about alcohol, the consequence from the nights when i do choose to party are significant enough that it is not worth the trade off, and trying to avoid those nights without a hard "no alcohol ever" rule has not been successful.

but its not like i have no addiction to alcohol. any alcohol abuser must. do people know tricks for suppressing craving when the consequences of having a drink will not be severe in the direct sense? like, a logic trick. i know i can't drink even on sunny nice days -- like today -- where i more than likely would not cross the line and lose control, because then i will not be abiding to the necessary complete refrain. but that's really difficult to use as a reason not to drink when you are actively craving. that's not like "if i dose, i will fuck up months and months of a hellish benzo taper." but quality of life is better without, even without those immediate, severe consequences.

like my friends all want me to drink. this new change is not well received. they say i'm fine when i drink. but i can't remember the night when i get drunk because of medication i take, and they are not harsh judges because they get drunk and give plenty of grace when others do. i still know i make embarrassing decisions. i still feel like shit the next day.

i don't know. i figure there has gotta be a lot of people that fall into this category of alcohol abuse without dependence. do you find that makes justifying not drinking more difficult? tips to overcome?

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i didn't read enough posts from the mega thread. i think this post would fit perfectly and would appreciate the merge. sorry and thanks!
 
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well, i went out tonight and didn't drink. i'm already thinking maybe it's too extreme, and i don't need to quit. these were friends from work, who do not drink as hard as friends from school. i only got to see one guy for a minute because he was showing up as i was leaving, and i don't get to see him at work anymore because he moved on, and he said no worries he'll give me a call to go drinking sometime soon. fuck. "i'm not drinking tonight" is easy enough with some, but not you're drinking buddies. and i don't wanna say i'm not drinking anymore until i'm sure.
 
I just want to preface this with 'I'm 6.5 months sober and never been happier'. I'm a young-mid 20s male.

I know what that's like. I got harassed at a previous job because of my lack of drinking. People always giving me a hard time. It sucks, plain and simple.

I know its going to kill you but if you are going to be serious about this then you should stop going out with your drinking buddies. I've lost contact with so many of mine. Your friends who matter.. They will understand. Find other things to do with them. I've been organizing sports.. Gaming nights.. Etc instead.

Addiction comes in all shapes and sizes. This includes severity. You recognise you have a problem. Why not stop now before it becomes worse? Yes I realise how hard that is to actually do. The only criteria for being an addict is you think you are an addict. You know deep down in your heart the truth(not trying to sound accusing here, by you I mean people in general).

A symptom i am recognising in you is this obsession with trying to control your limits and not overdo it. Addicts cannot moderate. Period. You remind me of me about 3 years ago. It got worse for me. Much worse. I spent so long obsessing over my drinking habit and whether it was OK and trying all these tricks to limit my drinking. I could do it, but I was miserable. It was horrible. You can be an addict and have self control, but it will kill you.

Eventually my drinking became much more frequent and I was blacking out every single time without fail. I wish I had stopped before. I made so many bad decisions.

The day I started improving was the day I realised moderation was impossible for me because I am an addict. That day was roughly 9 months ago. I had one 3 day relapse around 2 months in.

Please let me know if you have any questions.
 
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