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Care to expand? I've rolled with many, many, many different sorts of mindsets and always experienced the happiness depletion and overwhelming feeling of stupidity the next day.
Ive got from relationship therapy to pure party raving and it's all the same.
 
“You cannot stay on the summit forever; you have to come down again. So why bother in the first place? Just this: What is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer, but one has seen. There is an art of conducting oneself in the lower regions by the memory of what one saw higher up. When one can no longer see, one can at least still know.”


― René Daumal
 
I never get the comedowns from MDMA, I just feel little slow next day but also have amazing afterglow. The day at work goes by in a second :)
 
Thanatos said:
Laika- how do you not get MDx hang overs? They are so bad, especially if you have shit to do the next day.
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I make sure I dose hard at the beginning so that I don't have to redose later on. Secondly I make sure I don't have anything to do the next day lol. But most importantly as long as the experiences are spaced out far enough I don't get any comedown or hangover. In fact the next day I feel great. Don't get me wrong, I've felt suicidal before from MDx but that's because I was doing it too often. For example the last time I combined MDMA & MDA I hadn't done either in probably 3-4 months. With that roll, I couldn't even tell when I came down. I just transitioned into the next day and then went to sleep. I can get away with once per month and still no negative side effects but I prefer the 4x's per year instead, more intense, and it seems to last longer and give me a better glow for the following days.
I don't take a bunch of supplements either to make sure my roll is going to be good like some people do. Most of it is snake oil to me for the most part. As long as I drink water throughout the roll I'm golden. My mouth may be sore the next day but that's about it.
 
4x per year its optimal I think, doing it too. Shulgins said that 4 times is a maximum per year if you don't want to lose the magic in the long run :)
 
Those 4 months can seem so far away in the days after your amazing experience though it hurts, lol.
 
Maybe I'm just more sensitive Laika, Ive never had a that I didn't have a horrendous comedown from.
But I also have chronic, medication resistant depression so I assume my natural monoamine levels are out of whack.
I only rolled once in 2013 and spend $300 at the bar -'d had the greatest bro-bro love session ever. Man me and my friend got deep, we were crying to each other out of both dispair and happiness. Wr talked about the good and the bad and it got to the point we were just hugging and crying with each other and radiating vibes off each other. I still remember smoking a bowl, rolling so hard I forgot to hit it and passing it to him because it felt wrong if I didn't.

This all happened in front of two choice ladies that were rolling as well that wanted to bang us lol
Lol tho
 
Thanatos said:
Maybe I'm just more sensitive Laika, Ive never had a that I didn't have a horrendous comedown from.
But I also have chronic, medication resistant depression so I assume my natural monoamine levels are out of whack.
I only rolled once in 2013 and spend $300 at the bar -'d had the greatest bro-bro love session ever. Man me and my friend got deep, we were crying to each other out of both dispair and happiness. Wr talked about the good and the bad and it got to the point we were just hugging and crying with each other and radiating vibes off each other. I still remember smoking a bowl, rolling so hard I forgot to hit it and passing it to him because it felt wrong if I didn't.

This all happened in front of two choice ladies that were rolling as well that wanted to bang us lol
Lol tho
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Lol sometimes that's how it goes. Last roll party I had it was like an elementary school dance. Girls on one side of the bedroom, dudes blazing and chatting up on the other side for a majority of the experience lol. Still had my lady to go home with though of course :) I love getting deep while rolling. It's easier to explain the tripped out things I think of while on MDMA than it is in a full blown trip.


xammy - I often think of that. I believe it would just become the norm and we wouldn't even realize that we're feeling it anymore. For example existing has to feel a lot better than not existing, so I'm sure it felt great to be born. But we're used to being alive now and the feeling is just normal to us.
 
I think if there is ONE drug everyone should experience in their life, it should be MDMA! Even if only for once.

First time was so magical.. When it hit me from the legs I was like WOW wtf is happening?! It was the perfect day, did it with one of my best friends on a summer day :3 dat bounding

I remember sitting in a moving car with window open and smoking a cig, the wind felt orgasmic lol. Still when I look back and memorize that day it makes me smile so hard. Just marvellous
 
xammy said:
I think if there is ONE drug everyone should experience in their life, it should be MDMA! Even if only for once.

First time was so magical.. When it hit me from the legs I was like WOW wtf is happening?! It was the perfect day, did it with one of my best friend on a summer day :3 dat bounding
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I think ONE is unfair, but still. If I had to choose it would be DMT. To me that should be the worldwide version of the churches "Confirmation."
 
Yeah that's how this was, except my friends girl decided she wanted me.. I definitely regret that part; but she said he had no chance.
Rolling is completely different than tripping, I can actually articulate my feelings. It's just that sometimes I feel like they are fake or overly polarized by the goo vibes because I sometime I say stuff that seems right in the moment but aren't really my sentiments.
I actually like rolling with my bros more than with the ladies for that exact same reason. I don't wanna lead a girl on with my overwhelming love-vibes when I really don't mean it 100% but i have a really close group of guy friends do it's super unlikely I'd ever regret opening up and letting them into my heart.

For sexual stuff I'd rather just use marijuana or alcohol really. I like to be on my ge and really get at it Lolz. MDMA and MDA make me sub par. Mephedrone was a different story though.
 
Women seem to really get the kicks from MDMA, this one girl was literally tearing from feeling so unbelievable good as we were having sex lol.

Laika I have some DMT in my possession (50mg) but havent tried it yet. Any pro tips for the first time noob?

Does this sum it up at all?

At a certain point of the trip, you may get the sensation that you're dying or are about to do die. And this might feel more real than anything you've ever experienced before. But you won't. Trust me. Remember: nobody has ever died from smoking DMT before, NOBODY. So when the time comes, when everything you've known and loved feels like it is ripping apart at the seams, let "death" come and take you away. Just lay down -- surrender to it entirely. Trust it. It will not harm you. And afterwards, you will know what it feels like to be reborn.
 
Thanatos said:
Yeah that's how this was, except my friends girl decided she wanted me.. I definitely regret that part; but she said he had no chance.
Rolling is completely different than tripping, I can actually articulate my feelings. It's just that sometimes I feel like they are fake or overly polarized by the goo vibes because I sometime I say stuff that seems right in the moment but aren't really my sentiments.
I actually like rolling with my bros more than with the ladies for that exact same reason. I don't wanna lead a girl on with my overwhelming love-vibes when I really don't mean it 100% but i have a really close group of guy friends do it's super unlikely I'd ever regret opening up and letting them into my heart.

For sexual stuff I'd rather just use marijuana or alcohol really. I like to be on my ge and really get at it Lolz. MDMA and MDA make me sub par. Mephedrone was a different story though.
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I miss Meph, like really badly.

I don't think the things that come out during a roll are superficial in any way. If anything they are 100% true, they are showing you the capacity of love that you are capable of. It's not fake to me. It's just that once the roll is over it's tough to keep up with putting forth that much emotion into everything. It's my own fault. I've seen what I'm capable of but choose not to pursue a constant state of total acceptance towards mostly everything.
 
xammy said:
Women seem to really get the kicks from MDMA, this one girl was literally tearing from feeling so unbelievable good as we were having sex lol.

Laika I have some DMT in my possession (50mg) but havent tried it yet. Any pro tips for the first time noob?

Does this sum it up at all?

At a certain point of the trip, you may get the sensation that you're dying or are about to do die. And this might feel more real than anything you've ever experienced before. But you won't. Trust me. Remember: nobody has ever died from smoking DMT before, NOBODY. So when the time comes, when everything you've known and loved feels like it is ripping apart at the seams, let "death" come and take you away. Just lay down -- surrender to it entirely. Trust it. It will not harm you. And afterwards, you will know what it feels like to be reborn.
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The lowest dose I've been able to breakthrough on is 36mgs. This was mixed in a bubbler with weed. If you aren't a weed smoker I would seek alternative ways. I guess I got lucky, or I prepared myself well enough, because my first hit ever I broke through on. I would recommend loading up all 50mgs if that's all you have. Hit it and hit and hit, 3 times if you have. Hit it and hold it as long as you can and then take another one. Take hits of it until you know you can't anymore, trust me you'll know when because you'll either fall back or barely be able to get the pipe down before you're zipping into hyperspace.

That quote is perfect. Right as I exhaled I thought I was dying. I had to somehow remind myself "Dude you just smoked DMT for the first time, go with it." And I laid back and went with it. I didn't fight it or question it at all. I did it in complete silence laying in a bed with my eyes closed. The whole experience "spoke to me." It was the most beautiful thing I've ever been through. As I came to about 10-15 minutes later, with tears streaming down my face I had a song stuck in my head that I hadn't heard in many many years and the chorus was just playing over and over in my head. And it was the Monkees song and the line that was stuck in my head was "Then I saw her face, now I'm a believer."
I felt anti depressed for a month after that and I still glow when thinking about all that went on during the experience. Although I've done it many times since and had immaculate trips, that first one is still the only one that brought me to tears and changed my perspective on everything.
 
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