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3-MMC LEGAL STATUS IN EUROPE ? - UK and Germany

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Hi,

does anybody know the legal status of 3-MMC in the UK and Germany, and other European countries, but mostly these two. I know it's legal in Poland but that's it.

thanx
 
^Its shite from nearly all reports, but surprisingly sought-after
 
It's not even close to preban meph. But is well comparable to 90% of everything that get's sold *as* meph today, ie usually 4-MEC. Better than all other cathinones actually imo, just far from meph. Reasonably euphoric, not very horny or empathic but virtually no comedown is a giant plus, that may be why it's popular. You can do grams of it and be pretty functional the next day, although it probably does the same shitty things to heart as meph.

As far as I know it's legal in germany, poland, czech, slovakia, austria and probably all eastern europe. Whole central and eastern europe basically. Heard it's going to be banned in slovakia and possibly germany in march though.
 
bluespeed said:
It's not even close to preban meph. But is well comparable to 90% of everything that get's sold *as* meph today, ie usually 4-MEC. Better than all other cathinones actually imo, just far from meph. Reasonably euphoric, not very horny or empathic but virtually no comedown is a giant plus, that may be why it's popular. You can do grams of it and be pretty functional the next day, although it probably does the same shitty things to heart as meph.

As far as I know it's legal in germany, poland, czech, slovakia, austria and probably all eastern europe. Whole central and eastern europe basically. Heard it's going to be banned in slovakia and possibly germany in march though.
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is it still possible to get meph as good as the pre ban stuff? remember the fluffy white meow we used to get a few years back stank of cat piss but was sooooo euphoric. not had anything the same since :(
 
deano88 said:
is it still possible to get meph as good as the pre ban stuff? remember the fluffy white meow we used to get a few years back stank of cat piss but was sooooo euphoric. not had anything the same since :(
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Well.. who knows. That's what I have been trying to figure out in the last 3 weeks or so. I really went through a lot of forums, often tor/darkweb.
Still deciding myself whether to try meph online but the more I have read, the more I believe nobody sells stuff 100% as euphoric as preban. Very often it's complete crap but I can't say it's impossible to get good meph. Just very unlikely.
 
It's horrible, not even as good as 4-mec and I thought it felt quite 'dangerous' while no pleasant buzz.
 
bluespeed said:
Well.. who knows. That's what I have been trying to figure out in the last 3 weeks or so. I really went through a lot of forums, often tor/darkweb.
Still deciding myself whether to try meph online but the more I have read, the more I believe nobody sells stuff 100% as euphoric as preban. Very often it's complete crap but I can't say it's impossible to get good meph. Just very unlikely.
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the fluffy white stuff was by far the best. it cant be impossible to make stuff like the pre ban stuff so why aren't they doing it
 
Not long ago meph was banned in China. China produced >95% of all the good stuff, so that's one cause.

The other must be that getting precursors OR any other part of the synthesis of meph is markedly riskier and/or more expensive compared to making other illegal stim that share it's userbase. People who really like meph are guaranteed to like either amp/methamp/mdma/coke/some_RC, right? Have you ever heard anyone saying "I can't get meph so I never take any stim on parties. Meph or nothing"? I sure didn't. Almost every drug user will settle with something similar because well, it's better than nothing.
If producing either of those stims is easier/less risky for the big labs, they will do so.

A lot of people say that meph is their true drug of choice, that they really prefer it over any other stim. But in the end if they can go with using some other stim, doesnt matter if they are bit less happy about it, nobody will make meph on large scale because it's not neccessary. More money will be made longterm and/or less people involved with manufacture will be arrested which are the only 2 things that matter to crime groups.

People would have to boycott other stims, including RCs. I think. Only then those superlabs would have real reason to focus on meph. Sounds really funny doesn't it.

Maybe there's a bunch of small labs that produce the best meph there can possibly be. After all the chinese preban stuff was always reported to have some impurities like 3-MMC. The best stuff we all dream about after those years could be just 80% pure.. it's possible a small bunch of clever chemists produce 95% stuff this second. But if those labs only produce few kilos in year, there is almost zero chance any one of us gets access to it because it's so little amount compared to demand. Would need to be tens of tonnes.

That's my explanation. Pessimistic I know 8) But the only one that makes sense to me.
 
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well, it's not that bad this 3-MMC tried it on several occasions, and everybody else who tried it from the same batch was happy with the effects, they're a bit shortlived though and you need to redose often. It comes in nice huge crystals, not powder. and prolly the best legal cathinone there is. thanks for input anyway
 
Even when meph was legal there was still shit stuff going around but one vendor was selling this fluffy white meph and ut literally blew you away in one line. Was so floaty and euphoric! Don't think we'll ever see stuff like that again if Chinese labs don't make it anymore
 
deano88 said:
is it still possible to get meph as good as the pre ban stuff? remember the fluffy white meow we used to get a few years back stank of cat piss but was sooooo euphoric. not had anything the same since :(
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I have some fluffy off white powder sold as 4-mmc. Its the best i have had since the ban, everything feels right. The strong smell that wont leave your wallet/creditcards not even after cleaning them. One 100mg line and 1 mins later you are high as a kite, rushing around like crazy. The stimulation is insane.
I have been searching for a lab to analyse it in europe, found one now and im expecting a test result in about 3 weeks.

Im very curious to find out what it is, i havent been so high since 2009.
 
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Ophidian said:
I have some fluffy off white powder sold as 4-mmc. Its the best i have had since the ban, everything feels right. The strong smell that wont leave your wallet/creditcards not even after cleaning them. One 100mg line and 1 mins later you are high as a kite, rushing around like crazy. The stimulation is insane.
I have been searching for a lab to analyse it in europe, found one now and im expecting a test result in about 3 weeks.

Im very curious to find out what it is, i havent been so high since 2009.
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Let us know what the results when you get them. Im not sourcing but did you get it online or off the street? Just curious
 
deano88 said:
Let us know what the results when you get them. Im not sourcing but did you get it online or off the street? Just curious
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Online - even the crap stuff you get online is better than the street stuff.
 
^ Yeah, don't wanna be rude but google would literally tell you that in 0.2 seconds, easier and faster than post on bluelight.
 
N-methylcathinone = Methcathinone = Ephedrone
4,N- dimethylcathinone = 4-methlymethcathinone = 4-MMC =(methyl)ephedrone). or mephedrone. Yes, dean, you're correct.
 
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