Cocaine Probably the dumbest question on here: Cocaine

[COCOCARTER]

Oh boy... Another "first time hard drugs" thread.

I remember when I posted this thread 5 years ago. 5 long years of addiction and misery. My thread was almost word for word about trying certain drugs "just once"... Plans change once you're exposed to the euphoric possibilities and can't yet see the consequences.

But alas, I'm not going to waste my time with a long "don't do it" speech.

Buy no more then a gram, half a gram if it's supposed to be good shit. Tiny bumps until you get there. Be safe, and go SMALL. When using any substance besides pot, live by this rule and you will continue living: "You can always take more, you can never take less." Remember, tiny bumps until you get there.

Hahah ... wow, I got to this last response and it summed up much of what I planned to say. Reading this post and the responses brought back sweet memories of more "innocent" times. Mmmm ... all the weeks of questions, curiosity and anxiety that built up to my first line. Fun times!

My first and strongest suggestion on trying coke is, DON'T DO IT! Seeing as you are a creature of will and curiosity, my alternate suggestion is keep your lines itty-bitty. Approximately the length and width 2-3 grains of uncooked rice. If you are not feeling the effects from that, someone sold you crappy coke. Pace yourself ... take a lengthy break and step away between lines. I would recommend not buying anymore than a gram and staying away from coke for a long time after trying it. I would even go as far as staying away from a party with coke.


You will likely consume large quantities of booze while partying with coke. Be prepared to be wound up all night and sleeping the entire day that follows. You will not have much of an appetite for a while. Once you regain your appetite, you may likely munch through your first meal like a ravenous beast. Coke is a highly addictive expensive drug. If you have an addictive personality, you are treading on thin ice with coke. It has an enormous potential to consume your life and funds.


A brief look into my party history, I avoided drugs all my life. I did not even want to knowingly associate with drug users or dealers. In late 2010, I gave in and tried coke for the first time. Come 2011, I became the party princess. I can honestly say I spent a few thousand dollars in 2011 just on coke for myself. Nuts! I have avoided using coke much over the past 2 years, mainly because of geography. However, the craving is still there, lurking in the background like a demon.


Best of luck and blessings with your decision, Sacred! Be safe and enjoy!

 

[TheSacredTree]

Wow, is that all? I mean, ONLY all that on a weekly basis? (sarcasm, just to make it clear)

And you're worried about getting addicted to meth from trying it more than once?

I don't know how people can have these sorts of drug-taking schedules worked out. Has anyone ever started off with this kind of schedule concept and actually maintained it for any length of time?

Don't mean to be rude SacredTree, but I think with a list like you mentioned - or hell, even just the benzos alone - the idea of controlling such a schedule is an illusion. Another thing I don't think anyone has managed to do, is to try something "just once to see what's it's like". Because they try it, and if they like it (and there are a lot of people addicted to methamphetamine, there's a good reason for that), they tend to want to do it again.

And then "just once" turns into "just once a month", "only on weekends", etc.

Do you really need to plan ahead to taking such a list of drugs?

i didn't take any offense out of it. Maybe i should've reworded that sentence better when i posted it. I dont mean all of those things every single week. I just mean those are my favorites so they're probably the only ones i'd be continuing with on a regular basis once the bucket listing is over.

And i didn't mean i think i would get addicted to meth, i'm just saying it's one i'll have to take extra precaution against becoming addicted to because it's easy to let happen.

Thank you though. Your post really did help me "come back to reality" on my ideas so-to-say.

 

[TheSacredTree]

Ya if you do take H off your list I can`t see how that would possibly be a bad decision. But you said mixing ssris and maois? Are you on those because I think maois would be dangerous and ssris mixed with x would not get you high at all, and could possibly cause serotonin syndrome. Don`t mix those, and really what halif said was totally right, and I`ve heard that safe psychedelic usage is around once a month, so like doing DMT and LSD and peyote and ayuascha and all that stuff you said even if you just mean alternating drugs every week sounds like alot to me. Anyways best of luck and 1/4 of a gram sounds like a pretty good dose (depending on purity you might need a bit more or less but needing more is better than overdoing it!)

I'm not on them, i'm saying that because there's the MAOI's in Ayahuasca.

And i wouldn't mix them together on a weekly basis. In fact, Ayahuasca and Peyote would mainly be the special occasion ones. But LSD would probably be a once every one or two weeks thing and same as DMT.

And i'll go with the 1/4 gram then. Thank you.

 

[TheSacredTree]

Hahah ... wow, I got to this last response and it summed up much of what I planned to say. Reading this post and the responses brought back sweet memories of more "innocent" times. Mmmm ... all the weeks of questions, curiosity and anxiety that built up to my first line. Fun times!

My first and strongest suggestion on trying coke is, DON'T DO IT! Seeing as you are a creature of will and curiosity, my alternate suggestion is keep your lines itty-bitty. Approximately the length and width 2-3 grains of uncooked rice. If you are not feeling the effects from that, someone sold you crappy coke. Pace yourself ... take a lengthy break and step away between lines. I would recommend not buying anymore than a gram and staying away from coke for a long time after trying it. I would even go as far as staying away from a party with coke.


You will likely consume large quantities of booze while partying with coke. Be prepared to be wound up all night and sleeping the entire day that follows. You will not have much of an appetite for a while. Once you regain your appetite, you may likely munch through your first meal like a ravenous beast. Coke is a highly addictive expensive drug. If you have an addictive personality, you are treading on thin ice with coke. It has an enormous potential to consume your life and funds.


A brief look into my party history, I avoided drugs all my life. I did not even want to knowingly associate with drug users or dealers. In late 2010, I gave in and tried coke for the first time. Come 2011, I became the party princess. I can honestly say I spent a few thousand dollars in 2011 just on coke for myself. Nuts! I have avoided using coke much over the past 2 years, mainly because of geography. However, the craving is still there, lurking in the background like a demon.


Best of luck and blessings with your decision, Sacred! Be safe and enjoy!

@caseface and cococarter,

That's why i would vastly limit myself so i cant continue just whenever. It would have to be over a week if i even wanted to get more and by the time i get it, i would hopefully have come to my senses and changed my mind on doing it again.

And i definitely wouldn't go over 3 rice lengths for my first lines. Even in my pre-use mind that sounds like a fairly large amount (although nothing compared to the movies but i know those are fake. Lol).

Thank you very much for the blessings though and same to you.

 

[TheSacredTree]

Definitely! ^^

Word of advice: You should use neither benzos nor psychedelics on a weekly basis. The effects will change considerably and eventually you won't get much enjoyment out of them or as is the case for benzos, no enjoyment whatsoever.

Even for 80% coke (which I've most definitely had since it was a small scale extraction performed by a friend) a proper full blown dosage should be 150-200mg imho. I still hate the stuff though, what a shitty drug. I'd take amphetamine over it any day.

Even when i manage to find benzos more often i dont think i would be using them all the time, i would likely stay on my schedule of once every few weeks really enjoying the times when i do get them. And i haven't tried Amphetamines yet. I tried telling my doctor i had ADHD (which i really do think i have and it's harming my grades a lot) but i'm pretty sure he thought i was just saying that for the prescription. Oh well, maybe it's for the better.

Thank you for the response. And BTW, how did you get two seperate quotes in there without starting a new comment?

 

[COCOCARTER]

@caseface and cococarter,

That's why i would vastly limit myself so i cant continue just whenever. It would have to be over a week if i even wanted to get more and by the time i get it, i would hopefully have come to my senses and changed my mind on doing it again.

And i definitely wouldn't go over 3 rice lengths for my first lines. Even in my pre-use mind that sounds like a fairly large amount (although nothing compared to the movies but i know those are fake. Lol).

Thank you very much for the blessings though and same to you.

Continue to weigh the long-term ramifications. I wish I held stronger on the latter. It is helpful to probe more with those who have used coke and don't have an agenda to sell you. The person who got me turned on to coke had used it for nearly 3 decades and was on it just about every time we hung out. Needless to say, his influence was poor and he was biased. It is great that you are you are carefully considering this adventure. Your methodical approach to use and experimentation is commendable.

 

[Harrisment]

I honestly don't know how anyone gets addicted to coke, as I think it's the most overrated drug ever. Having said that, I've probably done it close to 100 times in my life, but usually because it's around. For your question on if it's similar to MDMA...no. They're not even in the same ballpark. Most people are disappointed the first time they try coke. Nobody is disappointed the first time they try MDMA...assuming it's actual MDMA.

When I take opiates (and in the very early days of MDMA), at the end of the night I always think "I can't wait to do that again." When I start coming down from coke I always think "Why in the fuck did I decide to do coke tonight?"

 

[COCOCARTER]

I honestly don't know how anyone gets addicted to coke, as I think it's the most overrated drug ever. Having said that, I've probably done it close to 100 times in my life, but usually because it's around. For your question on if it's similar to MDMA...no. They're not even in the same ballpark. Most people are disappointed the first time they try coke. Nobody is disappointed the first time they try MDMA...assuming it's actual MDMA.

When I take opiates (and in the very early days of MDMA), at the end of the night I always think "I can't wait to do that again." When I start coming down from coke I always think "Why in the fuck did I decide to do coke tonight?"

Wish I had the same reaction to coke. It would be nice to brush it off as a bad meal and fuhgetaboutit.

 

[Cuzie]

I honestly don't know how anyone gets addicted to coke, as I think it's the most overrated drug ever. Having said that, I've probably done it close to 100 times in my life, but usually because it's around. For your question on if it's similar to MDMA...no. They're not even in the same ballpark. Most people are disappointed the first time they try coke. Nobody is disappointed the first time they try MDMA...assuming it's actual MDMA.

When I take opiates (and in the very early days of MDMA), at the end of the night I always think "I can't wait to do that again." When I start coming down from coke I always think "Why in the fuck did I decide to do coke tonight?"

Different strokes and all that. Best drug I've tried by a long shot. It's the right combination of uppitiness w/o being out of control (in the proper amounts of course). And it's great in any situation. At the bar, watching tv with the family, running errands, whatever. And I find that really good coke is very cerebral, almost like being stoned without the anxiety.

Plus it's short-lived. No being up for 12 hours. Just take another blast at your own pace. It reminds me a lot of cigarette smokers. The ritual itself is part of the addictiveness.

 

[Bambooshoot]

My advice is to just leave it alone. You are going to achieve nothing getting through this 'bucket list' of yours. Chances are you will find a drug along the way that you like (too much) and wish you just hadn't bothered. Seriously. Stop. Now. Please. If you ignore the advice against like others have said start with a couple of small lines and work your way up from there. Hmphh....

 

[Harrisment]

Wish I had the same reaction to coke. It be nice to brush it off as a bad meal and fuhgetaboutit.

A lot of people do seem to like it, and I just don't understand. I'm starting to think I've been getting really shitty coke all this time. Which is hard to believe as I've used over a 10 year period and from multiple sources. Maybe everything I've tried just sucks though. I usually feel good for about 15 mins, and then after that it slowly goes downhill until I'm pissed off and want to go home. Of course I still do it the next time, because it always sounds like a great idea after a few drinks.

 

[Bambooshoot]

^^ everything sounds like a great idea after a few drinks. And I'm the same with coke it just ends up winding me up after 15mins. Just want to keep re-dosing even though I am not feeling much. I prefer a wee smoke of crack.

 

[Cuzie]

It's possible you guys may be doing too much? The only time I feel like shit is when I do a whole bunch in a really short period of time (which is really easy to do). If I bump and wait, bump and wait, I'll eventually get to a great high that can last for hours.

I have one of those little vials with the tiny spoon scooper. Under normal circumstances, two of those little scoops is a good size dose.

 

[COCOCARTER]

It's possible you guys may be doing too much? The only time I feel like shit is when I do a whole bunch in a really short period of time (which is really easy to do). If I bump and wait, bump and wait, I'll eventually get to a great high that can last for hours.

I have one of those little vials with the tiny spoon scooper. Under normal circumstances, two of those little scoops is a good size dose.

Agreed! You are likely doing too much or snorting crappy coke. Snort devices are FANTASTIC for quick bumps, concealment, and proper dosage. I highly recommend them. HIGHLY!

 

[TheSacredTree]

Continue to weigh the long-term ramifications. I wish I held stronger on the latter. It is helpful to probe more with those who have used coke and don't have an agenda to sell you. The person who got me turned on to coke had used it for nearly 3 decades and was on it just about every time we hung out. Needless to say, his influence was poor and he was biased. It is great that you are you are carefully considering this adventure. Your methodical approach to use and experimentation is commendable.

The person i would be buying from doesn't do it very often (pretty rarely i believe) but does have a bit of experience and does have some really good contacts he buys from. So i dont think he would try pressuring me to use more than i want to although he does want to be there and use it with me. Lol. And thank you for the compliment. Being a future entrepreneur it means a lot.

 

[TheSacredTree]

Agreed! You are likely doing too much or snorting crappy coke. Snort devices are FANTASTIC for quick bumps, concealment, and proper dosage. I highly recommend them. HIGHLY!

What's a snorting device?

 

[OG Loc]

A lot of people do seem to like it, and I just don't understand. I'm starting to think I've been getting really shitty coke all this time. Which is hard to believe as I've used over a 10 year period and from multiple sources. Maybe everything I've tried just sucks though. I usually feel good for about 15 mins, and then after that it slowly goes downhill until I'm pissed off and want to go home. Of course I still do it the next time, because it always sounds like a great idea after a few drinks.

Do you not like all stims in general or just coke? Personally I love stims but find cocaine a bit lacking compared with some others. It's not a bad drug but nowhere near worth the price imo.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Even when i manage to find benzos more often i dont think i would be using them all the time, i would likely stay on my schedule of once every few weeks really enjoying the times when i do get them. And i haven't tried Amphetamines yet. I tried telling my doctor i had ADHD (which i really do think i have and it's harming my grades a lot) but i'm pretty sure he thought i was just saying that for the prescription. Oh well, maybe it's for the better.

Thank you for the response. And BTW, how did you get two seperate quotes in there without starting a new comment?

This comment I hear, sadly, all too often. Literally this comment exactly... It's quite sad really...

 

[TheSacredTree]

This comment I hear, sadly, all too often. Literally this comment exactly... It's quite sad really...

Um... What part? Lol.

The part about Xanax, my ADHD, or the double quotes?

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Um... What part? Lol.

The part about Xanax, my ADHD, or the double quotes?

The doctor refusing to believe you have attention issues and blows you off. Now, more than likely, you're gonna develop a nice addiction to blow when some petty Adderall could have stopped that.

Maybe if doctors actually listened to their patients - we wouldn't have as many problems as we do today.