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Welsh government funds drug testing service for the public

Cheers for the link Shammy. Fucking hell, a banned cancer drug that helps kill the immune system. Lovely.

There's a telling line in Mike Powers book about cocaine. He visits some Home Office seized drugs place in Brixton where they test the purity of drugs they've bust. Anyway, someone who works there, in total seriousness, said that by 2011 you may as well go and have three lattes than buy coke as the buzz would have been better. She was admitting that (in 2011 at least) there was no coke in coke.
 
Yeah, it's properly nasty shit that levamisole from what I've read. All but impossible to check for unless you happen to have a GC/MS setup in yer garage or summat too. Given its prevalence, it's probably safe to assume if you have cocaine, you have levamisole though.

EDIT: I am a moron. Says right in the bit I quoted there is now a home testing kit that will show levamisole. Wasn't when it was last being regularly discussed in EADD but good it is now... if anybody is actually making use of it. And good luck finding untainted coke :\
 
^I remember someone posting on here during the H drought that they'd passed a drugs test. They'd been buying and chasing "gear" every day for the previous month.
 
Just had a read through the results.. fascinating and quite possibly enough to put me off drugs for life. (Not really, but..)

Anyone seen the branded legal nasty that has 4-CA as its major component (along with amphetamine)? Ick. 8o

Shambles said:
Absolutely nothing if you happen to know somebody who lives in Wales ;)
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Yeah.. or.. I would think we could probably just make up a Welsh postcode? Unless you want commission. =D
 
swampdragon said:
Anyone seen the branded legal nasty that has 4-CA as its major component (along with amphetamine)? Ick. 8o
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You referring to this shit in the States..? http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...uot-contains-the-highly-toxic-neurotoxin-4-CA

Jesus H I had no idea about this Levamisole stuff, I thought it was a harmless, inactive filler! Who the fuck is putting this shit in their product & continuing to get away with it?

Coke was always shit, I've had, like, one good line in my entire life!
 
babylonboy said:
^I remember someone posting on here during the H drought that they'd passed a drugs test. They'd been buying and chasing "gear" every day for the previous month.
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:D

swampdragon said:
Anyone seen the branded legal nasty that has 4-CA as its major component (along with amphetamine)? Ick. 8o
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Nope but that really is worrisome after reading about it earlier. Perfect example of why such a service is vital and could really help save lives. 4-CA and amphetamine?!? That just makes no sense. If they used 4-CA to avoid legal issues (I have no idea of its legal status but can't think why else anybody would choose to use that) then why the amphetamine? Very odd. And very worrisome.

As for just using a Welsh postcode - I presumed they would post results back to the sender as well as online but I guess not so many people would want the connection to be made. How would you know for sure which sample was yours though? Will have to have a proper looksee around that site. Although if anybody wishes to give a precis in the meantime have at it by all means.
 
Anyone go to or live near a clinic where they give out the naloxone vials? If so how do they do it, just 1 IV vial enough for 1 shot, or more? Or like the pins, as many as you'd want/need (at least round here, they seem to have different approaches in different areas, i was being told about a (different colours for different gauges tec) pack that you get elsewhere instead of however many of whatever you want
 
I think results are only posted on the net, hence the anonymity of users. I think the police are involved somewhere along the line so you don't really want the filth knowing where to post your pure LSD results back to (and, hooray, there is some pure LSD on those results).
 
Kronos said:
Anyone go to or live near a clinic where they give out the naloxone vials? If so how do they do it, just 1 IV vial enough for 1 shot, or more? Or like the pins, as many as you'd want/need (at least round here, they seem to have different approaches in different areas, i was being told about a (different colours for different gauges tec) pack that you get elsewhere instead of however many of whatever you want
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http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sites3/Documents/457/Naloxone report 2013 FINAL.pdf
 
I was given an ampoule of naloxone, a 2ml barrel and couple of needles, and an amp-snapper when I was prescribed Subutex recently (Mid-Wales). It's single use. I suspect it will vary around the country though - ask at your local DSP (where I got mine from). Didn't need a prescription for it either - they just hand them out (with instruction leaflets and brief talk with the nurse) to people who may potentially need them. At least they did here.

Si Ingwe said:
You referring to this shit in the States..? http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...uot-contains-the-highly-toxic-neurotoxin-4-CA
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That's just plain disgusting. I can't see even the remotest justification for using a substance like that in recreational pills. According to one of the more recent posts in that thread the company have since pulled that entire line. Although what the fuck they were thinking of in ever producing them I have no idea. And such a well-known, widely-used company too. Very worrisome indeed :\
 
Shambles said:
Nope but that really is worrisome after reading about it earlier. Perfect example of why such a service is vital and could really help save lives. 4-CA and amphetamine?!? That just makes no sense. If they used 4-CA to avoid legal issues (I have no idea of its legal status but can't think why else anybody would choose to use that) then why the amphetamine? Very odd. And very worrisome.
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Yeah, exactly..

StoneHappyMonday said:
I think results are only posted on the net, hence the anonymity of users. I think the police are involved somewhere along the line so you don't really want the filth knowing where to post your pure LSD results back to (and, hooray, there is some pure LSD on those results).
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It says that before you post it off you generate some sort of serial number which you can then enter online to get your results. So I can't really see any reason a fake address can't be used.. I think the service is going to be bombarded after the news article though.
 
PCA is literally poison. Selling it for human consumption is sickeningly immoral.
 
Shambles said:
That's just plain disgusting. I can't see even the remotest justification for using a substance like that in recreational pills. According to one of the more recent posts in that thread the company have since pulled that entire line. Although what the fuck they were thinking of in ever producing them I have no idea. And such a well-known, widely-used company too. Very worrisome indeed :\
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So worrisome that PD now has a sticky at the top warning folk about this idiot Legal High manufacturer! Incidentally, this company is very active in the UK Legal High trade but their UK products do not list 4-CA in their ingredients. Unfortunately the brand names are still the same, on both sides of the Atlantic even though the ingredients differ. Avoid like the plague!
 
babylonboy said:
PCA is literally poison. Selling it for human consumption is sickeningly immoral.
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And surely actually criminally negligent, no? Given it's known to be toxic. But then I guess the ol' "Not for human consumption" disclaimer may get 'em off. Shouldn't do but I can't believe any such high profile company would be stupid enough (immoral enough yes, stupid enough, no) to sell known neurotoxins. And in the US of all places where people will happily sue anybody for anything. Bizarre. And surely enough to be prosecutable if anybody has died or been seriously injured by any of those products.
 
Was this the vendor around since champs was around the RC scene? I remember the name, always quite expensive but always had top quality stuff (from reports), a few years back anyways. Shame if they are the same and have let greed take over :(
 
looks to me as if they've been around for a long time, given the professional packaging & the wide variety of products.

I have never bought a packaged "legal high" so I wouldn't know more than that...
 
Aye, i never understoof why people would prefer branded shite that theyt dont even have a (probably bullshit) idea of what ther taking. Remember that ivory wave? Sent a lot of people west that one.

Cheers for the link SHM, interesting read (bout halfway through it), just googled and its a pity that its illegal to sell/buy, it would be a absolute lifesaver to have around, i can think of a few cases just off the top of my head. Doubt itl be as easy to find as other drugs online either
 
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