2C-B First time - Dosage Issue

[Desohigh]

Hello BL people,
It will be my first time doing 2c-b. I was too curious about it but didn't find it in my country

But last week, my friends got 1 capsule 2cb instead of mdma :D
I think there were 185mg in the capsule because he said that they were mdma.
After the come up they felt something strange than rolling and it continued 6 7 hours.
They said that everywhere was built with water and everything was moving, they freaked out.
I think they OD..

Anyway, the dealer is selling in capsules and he said that 185mg per capsule and it was enough for 1 person.
I definitely test with Mecke but I doubt the dosage for a beginner. How should i dose for dancing like on mdma?
My friends told me it's like mdma but more trippy like lsd. What should I expect?

If the trip becomes too intense for me, what should I do to stop?
How is the hangover next day? Is it bad same as MDMA comedown (talking about next day)

Is it risky to combine with mdma for the first time? (after I reach the full effects of 2cb?)
Is there any supplementation for 2cb (before after, during)?

Past: (tried lsd once but didn't get the full effects a little bit sense of dumb thats all, Ketamine, and lots of magic truffles) So which head space is similar to 2cb?

 

[Thou]

I'd advise abstaining if you're not absolutely sure what drug you're taking.

What makes you think it's is 2c-b? Is your friend the dealer I'm having a little trouble understanding the situation.

If you have 2c-b you should start on the low end of the dosage spectrum - common dosing is from 15-25mg usually. If you were to take 185mg of 2c-b you'd be in bad fucking trouble I'd say especially for a first time.

Please exercise extreme caution.

Also, one should always perform an 'allergy test' when trialing new drugs by taking a miniscule dose before venturing into higher territories.

 

[Desohigh]

Hello Thou,
Yes it's absolutely 2c-b, I just spoke with him. No my friend and I use the same dealer.
But the dealer is selling them like mdma, he doesn't know actually or he gets the substance cheaper than mdma (Also the dealer is a f.kng asshole..)
Nevermind, that's why my friends was in bad shape last weekend.
Thank you for the dosage help and recommendations.
I always test my products so if it's not 2c-b its going to garbage.

 

[phantomcosmonaut]

But why risk that kind of thing? Just to get high? Find some better drugs from a better dealer. He's lying to you, and you have no idea what this drug really is.

 

[Thou]

First rule I abide by when dealing face to face is never buy from a dealer who's an absoltue scumbag. This guy seems like he fits that criteria.

From a harm reduction standpoint I'd have to recommend sitting this one out. 2c-b is rather prevalent if you look hard enough you'll find a reputable source. Good luck.

 

[Desohigh]

Thanks for the HR posts.
But I already bought them, so if someone experienced in 2cb can reply my questions?
I got testers at home so I can test them. If it's 2c-b does it matter which dealer did I bought from?
He's a reputable dealer in our city but he's kinda badass and always high maybe thats why.

Thank you btw Thou and Phantom!

 

[black53]

If he's actually selling pure 185mg 2c-b for a reasonable price I'd buy a whole bunch and recap it to about 15 mg per cap. That's a good dose for a first experience.

But somehow I doubt there's actually 185mg 2c-b in them... probably an unknown amount 2c-b + something inert. If it's even 2c-b in the first place.

 

[roi]

It makes no sense to sell 2C-B as MDMA (at least the same amount of powder). It's more expensive and the dose is way lower than the one from MDMA so everyone who is used to taking 100mg+ MDMA would have a extremely horrible time.

Anyway, the dealer is selling in capsules and he said that 185mg per capsule and it was enough for 1 person.

Completely wrong, a usual dose of 2C-B is 10-30mg.

You most likely have something else or heavily cut product.

 

[Desohigh]

Damn, if it's heavily cut product it's bad news..
I've to go home and deeply examine the product.
If that's the situation tester won't help..

 

[black53]

could be bk-2c-b, 185mg of that wouldn't be that high

try mixing a little bit with water and see if it turns purple

 

[Broseph Smith]

I would exercise great caution here OP.

2cb can have different effects for different people on a wide scale.

I have someone close to me who never doses higher than 8mg now, and prefers 4-6mg. 12mg was too intense.
I prefer 25mg, an have taken up to 75mg (which is extremely high), but despite dosages between us being so different we have similar effects and experiences. We've been using the same 2cb from the same batch that we have had for quite some time, in other words it is the same product I am trying to point out.

2cb isn't all that cheap or common anymore, for him to say he is capping even a single capsule of 185 is something I literally never head of. That is easily ten times a normal dose (10X18.5mg=185mg), and a lot of people would tell you 18 or higher is very high.

If he's cutting it, you're screwed. No way to separate out the 2cb from what he cut it with to safely dose.

:-/ be wise, may be best to toss this and take a loss in the sake of harm reduction.

To answer your other questions though...

I never get a hangover the next day from 2cb. I redose at times and I have taken "hero" doses. I've had slight trouble falling asleep (slight, take even a single Tylenol PM and you'll be out) and occasionally have a slight (very light) headache about half the time dying or towards the end of the trip.

It can be combine with MDMA, yes. Shulgin advises taken it after the MDMA. I've never combined the two myself.

2cb is far less toxic than MDMA from I have read and especially from what I've experienced. I enjoy it at home, the club, hiking (was hard to do but fun), as it is like a LIGHT dose of LSD and slightly body high and sensory of MDMA. This is my experience. It's very controllable as well (you'll know what I mean after you experience it) at doses under 20mg, but can get pretty intense and less controllable as you start to dose higher (especially at 40mg+).

It's a beautiful drug. But please make sure it's 2cb. Lots of other 2cx drugs out there and other research chemicals that someone may try to pass off as 2cb.

Stay safe and have fun.
Hope all ends well with whatever decision you make.

 

[Blue Druid]

could be bk-2c-b, 185mg of that wouldn't be that high

try mixing a little bit with water and see if it turns purple

That was my initial thought when Desohigh said it was 185mg and 2C-B. It could easily be that someone's got confused between βK-2C-B and 2C-B, It wouldn't be the first time a dealer or buyer has got confused by similar names - at least this confusion is likely to be a lot less dangerous than mixing up 2C-I and 25I-NBOME / 2C-I NBOME-25.

Take a look at this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethan-1-one)-Thread
There's a Marquis test photo on post one which might help identify your substance, also βK-2C-B reacts on contact with water turning pink/purple. There's some pics on post 100 of this reaction with different PH water.

It sounds very unlikely this is actual uncut 2C-B, regardless of what else it might be, I'd advise not taking any until you can positively identify it - even then you might want to give it a miss though.

 

[black53]

That was my initial thought when Desohigh said it was 185mg and 2C-B. It could easily be that someone's got confused between βK-2C-B and 2C-B, It wouldn't be the first time a dealer's or buyer's got confused by similar names - at least this confusion is likely to be a lot less dangerous than mixing up 2C-I and 25I-NBOME.

Take a look at this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethan-1-one)-Thread
There's a Marquis test photo on post one which might help identify your substance, also βK-2C-B reacts on contact with water turning pink/purple.

Or the dealer is doing it on purpose... wouldn't be the first time dealers lied about what they were selling... dealing isn't really a profession that attracts many honest people.

I think the easies test for bk-2c-b is mixing with water (not to much water because the color won't be that noticeable), if it turns to purple, add vinegar, should become transparent, add sodiumbicarb should go back to purple.

If it turns out to be bk-2c-b be aware that it's still a relatively high dose (starting dose is usually 100-125mg) and that it can last a very long time.