Amanita Muscaria Question

[Grigore]

I normally prepare A. muscaria tea,first I dry the shrooms and then I cut and put them in boiling water,slightly lowering the heat from the burner and stirring for 20 minutes and adding some lemon juice for the taste. ( I like lemons xD )

This method of preparation is really good,but I've heard that there is an even better method and here it is:
You cut the shrooms,throw them in the frying pan,cook them and then eat them.

My questions are:
Will cooking the shrooms make them less potent,what will happen with the muscimol?
What will happen with the ibotenic acid,will it convert to muscimol/evaporate?

 

[Sumph]

From what I have read, frying the mushroom converts the ibotenic acid to muscimol. I'm unsure how it affects potency, I would definitely fry it purely because I wouldn't want any ibotenic acid, for me safety >> potency.

 

[Grigore]

If I don't want to get nauseated from the ibotenic acid,I eat few datura seeds before ingesting the shrooms.
This creates the possibility of eating as many raw shrooms as I want without feeling any nausea at all.It's a great trick.
I'm going to fry the shrooms next time,I hope potency won't be greatly affected.

Thanks for your advice

 

[Sumph]

I'd be less concerned about the nausea and more concerned about the neurotoxic effect of ibotenic acid to be honest!

 

[Grigore]

You are right,from now on,I will fry the shrooms.

This method is faster and it won't pose as many dangers as eating the shrooms raw.

 

[wayab]

i think baking them is better than frying... isn't it ?

 

[Sumph]

i think baking them is better than frying... isn't it ?

I couldn't tell you, but I know that frying should really be used with the red 'skin' bit and due to the thicknes, it is pretty perfect...

 

[Grigore]

I'll stick to frying the shrooms,won't mind baking them once or twice to see if it's better,anyway,thanks for sharing your opinion.

 

[wayab]

from erowid: "How do I prepare them? You should dry them first so all the ibotenic acid (bad stuff) will turn to muscimol which is what you want. Drying has to be done in a temperature of about 170-200F to make the reaction to happen. If you dry them in an oven leave the door little open to let the steam come out. When the mushrooms are heated they will "sweat" their juice out and you don't want that to happen so pour the semi-dried juice back over the mushrooms and do this as often as needed. When the drying is done you may do what ever you want with this stuff: you may make a meal, boil some tea, eat them like that, extarct the alkaloids or smoke them"

i have read that some people boil them for non psychoacive eating, boiling them long enough destroys both ibotenic acid and the muscimol
so i guess frying could lead to loss of potency if its overdone

 

[Grigore]

well,you got a point,but,I won't mind if they lose a bit of potency if I fry them for 5 minutes or so.
anyway,I have ''unlimited reserve'' of A. muscaria,so,no worries if I'll need a bit more shrooms to trip.

I'll fry them monday and see what will happen. :D

 

[wayab]

well,you got a point,but,I won't mind if they lose a bit of potency if I fry them for 5 minutes or so.
anyway,I have ''unlimited reserve'' of A. muscaria,so,no worries if I'll need a bit more shrooms to trip.

I'll fry them monday and see what will happen. :D

i envy you i would love to trip on some amanitas but havent gotten around to do it properly. ate 1 cap some years ago but nothig happend really.
which do you prefer amanitas or datura?
i would love some amanitas as i am a big dissociative fan and know amanitas can be dissociative.

 

[Grigore]

First time when I tried amanitas I ate 1 cap and nothing happened as well.

My weekly dose of amanita ranges from 7 caps to 15 caps(I take so much because of my tolerance,I won't recommend taking more than 5 shrooms if you have no tolerance),depending on the size.

The trip is far more pleasant than the datura trip,but datura is more hardcore,that's why my favorite is datura.