Harm Reduction ⫸Official Plugging/Rectal Administration Megathread⫷

[Feelin-u4ia]

Now I have tried this before but is it okay, to plug like 150 mls or so? and how long will it take your viens in your stomach to eat it up?

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

150 ml is fine as long as you can keep it in (may be difficult or uncomfortable depending on the person) but less is better if possible.

I suggest trying to keep it in for at the very least 2 hours. By then the fluid should have spread out along your bowels to be absorbed by a larger surface area.

 

[Hope4Dope]

Now I have tried this before but is it okay, to plug like 150 mls or so? and how long will it take your viens in your stomach to eat it up?

I'm not sure what substance you're trying to plug but I wouldn't recommend more then 5ml, you can dissolve pills with about 2 1/2-3 ml's and I use a ml to make sure to get any residue on the side of the cup into my plugger. For any powdered drugs/crystals I usually only need 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 ml's. Remember less is best, you won't even feel any need for shitting it out cause such small amounts of water/solution will absorb before 20 minutes.

 

[Engage]

There was a question?
Can you restate it, please.

 

[Tommyboy]

Merged with megathread

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

So how manly ml is the minimum for dissolving 30-40 ac&c pills (approx 300 mg aspirin, 15mg caffeine, 8mg codeine each)

I just find it hard to picture doing it with anything less than 100-150 ml without loosing some end product.

 

[knock]

150 ml is fine as long as you can keep it in (may be difficult or uncomfortable depending on the person) but less is better if possible.

I suggest trying to keep it in for at the very least 2 hours. By then the fluid should have spread out along your bowels to be absorbed by a larger surface area.

The absorption does not take place "along your bowels" but only in the rectum, and it takes 10 minutes max, not two hours.

I've never needed more than 10-15ml water for administering any normal dose of any drugs. 5ml is normally plenty.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

The absorption does not take place "along your bowels" but only in the rectum, and it takes 10 minutes max, not two hours.

I've never needed more than 10-15ml water for administering any normal dose of any drugs. 5ml is normally plenty.

Then I stand corrected. I thought the lower intestines would take part in absorbing any liquids in your lower regions.

do you happen to know the answer to my other question? I can see how 5 ml is enough for pure substance or a pill but what about 30-40 pills??

 

[knock]

Then I stand corrected. I thought the lower intestines would take part in absorbing any liquids in your lower regions.

do you happen to know the answer to my other question? I can see how 5 ml is enough for pure substance or a pill but what about 30-40 pills??

30-40 is an awful lot of pills You're right, pills are full of crap like binders and stuff, I usually use pure powder chemicals, so there will be a difference.

I take it you're doing this to get the codeine? Let's stick with the number 40. That would be:

12g aspirin
600mg caffeine
320mg codeine

12g aspirin is a fuckload, the maximum daily dosage is about 4g from my googling. I would change your plan on this basis alone.

600mg caffeine is also a fuckload, like six cups of coffee all drunk at once. I don't think it would be pleasant.

There are better ways to get opiates into your system than pumping these AC&C pills into your behind

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

30-40 is an awful lot of pills You're right, pills are full of crap like binders and stuff, I usually use pure powder chemicals, so there will be a difference.

I take it you're doing this to get the codeine? Let's stick with the number 40. That would be:

12g aspirin
600mg caffeine
320mg codeine

12g aspirin is a fuckload, the maximum daily dosage is about 4g from my googling. I would change your plan on this basis alone.

600mg caffeine is also a fuckload, like six cups of coffee all drunk at once. I don't think it would be pleasant.

There are better ways to get opiates into your system than pumping these AC&C pills into your behind

tthat's what the extraction is for.
ussualy I mix these pills with 150 ml of water and filter. The water collected still contains the codeine and caffeine but all the aspirin is gone, effectively saving me from the limits of aspirin dosage.

So I guess the question is, what's the minimum amount of water I could use to extract the codeine and then plug.

I've attempted caffeine extraction methods but none seem to make an effective difference to me..

 

[knock]

So I guess the question is, what's the minimum amount of water I could use to extract the codeine and then plug.

Indeed, not really a plugging question but a CWE question, here are some threads:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/272847-COLD-WATER-EXTRACTION-made-simple(r)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/396416-New!-Cold-Water-Extraction-Mega-Thread-amp-FAQ
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/548643-Cold-Water-Extraction-(CWE)-Mega-Thread-amp-FAQ-v2-0

I would be tempted to carry out the extraction as normal then evaporate the resulting solution to reduce the quantity to a manageable amount, rather than working with the minimum amount of water during the extraction. FAQ suggests 80ml for 40 pills.

Yes you could plug that without reducing it and yes it would take a bit longer to absorb than the "10 minutes max" I suggested for 10ml plugging solution but it shouldn't take 2 hours, my rectum certainly sucks up drug solutions like a thirsty alcoholic.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Well its a bit of a hybrid question considering I don't have any problems chugging 150 ml of code in containing concoction lol so the only reason I'd really care to drastically reduce the volume would be to plug.
It appears in the threads you linked that I could possibly use less water for 30 pills (my ussual dose) but it would still be well over 5ml (about 50-60) so I guess evaporated would be the best solution to this..

That being said considering evaporating is an annoying process for me, my next question would be; is there really any benefits to plugging codiene? Is it really worth all the effort to extract and then evaporated and then plug?

 

[knock]

That being said considering evaporating is an annoying process for me, my next question would be; is there really any benefits to plugging codiene? Is it really worth all the effort to extract and then evaporated and then plug?

That depends on you, I plug all my drugs except for my opiates and I'm OK with that. I'm a poppy tea drinker (a chipper, once or twice a week at most), I have tried plugging poppy tea but it just doesn't work as well as drinking it and is not particularly convenient. I don't know why plugging the tea doesn't work, I even tried reducing it, reduced it down to a powder (which became a putty on exposure to air) that I could reconstitute to a pluggable dose, it didn't work very well and it took ages, so I didn't get round to doing it twice.

I dunno, if I was into codeine and plugging it worked then I'd plug it, but I'm not, I'm into morphine, codeine, thebaine and papaverine in the form of poppy tea, and plugging it doesn't work :D Sorry. All I can say is, try it, or maybe someone will come along who has.

Having said all that, o-desmethyltramadol, plugged, is divine. But I've not seen any for two or three years.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Thanks for the insight ^^ If I try it sometime I'll be sure to post here, but Idk when that will be, I've attempted it with 150 ml but I had very little results, even after 2 hours.. I don't know if it was simply ineffective in general, or if the water volume was too much. I'll likely just stick to chugging the stuff (if I don't swear off of it for a while, I feel like my tolerance is getting a little too high)

 

[doIhavePotential]

Thanks for the insight ^^ If I try it sometime I'll be sure to post here, but Idk when that will be, I've attempted it with 150 ml but I had very little results, even after 2 hours.. I don't know if it was simply ineffective in general, or if the water volume was too much. I'll likely just stick to chugging the stuff (if I don't swear off of it for a while, I feel like my tolerance is getting a little too high)

for 40 tabs I would do 30-40ml of water, dissolve 20 tabs into 30 mls and filter, use the same filtered water and add 20 more tabs into them and filter as usual

2 washes of 20 tabs each with the water recycled. total of 40 tabs used and 30 ml of water used, makes it easier to plug.

if you want you can add 10 ml of water to the used filters and get the "rest" out" or save a bunch of em and do a cwe on em to get a decent dose or even rinse them and use the water as the base for the next time you do a CWE

I don't know why people use so much water when the solubility of codeine is so high, all you add is more caffeine and that kills the high after a bit.

 

[Non Nobis Solum]

I AM getting very pissed, I just can't seem to get plugging to work for me anymore, always seems to be shit fucking it up.. I am tired of wasting my desoxyn, that's it.. I am done plugging! I just wanted to let you all know, if you're doing things without results stop beating a damn dead horse and move onto a different ROA.. Oral methamphetamine HCL FROM NOW ON!!! UGH!! I just want a semi legit RUSH with desoxyn!!

 

[tricomb]

You can't get one from the rectal ROA? What's your prep process man? Desoxyn works like a charm rectally.

 

[RTrain]

I AM getting very pissed, I just can't seem to get plugging to work for me anymore, always seems to be shit fucking it up.. I am tired of wasting my desoxyn, that's it.. I am done plugging! I just wanted to let you all know, if you're doing things without results stop beating a damn dead horse and move onto a different ROA.. Oral methamphetamine HCL FROM NOW ON!!! UGH!! I just want a semi legit RUSH with desoxyn!!

I also have never gotten the desired effects from plugging. But I only have tried various opioids, no amps. I do think I know what I have been doing wrong, though. I think my problem has been not using enough water. Too little and its all easily absorbed into any feces, but with a larger amount of water only so much can be lost. I think you want to use at least 5 cc, probably more like 10. I'm not really sure, but in the past trying to plug H I have used 1-2 cc and it never worked as well as if I had just snorted it.

 

[tricomb]

It depends really, I've found with methamphetamines, you can dose as much as you want with just a 1cc/1mL syringe and I get very consistent results. Or maybe it's just me. For opioids, how much water depends on what I'm taking and how much of it, like morphine I usually need to use a 5mL/cc taper tip oral syringe because of morphine's solubility tapping out at 50-60mg/mL making multi-hundred milligram shots difficult to pull off any other way, oh and I always pH buffer solutions to 8.5-9 depending, because opioids are absorbed better in slightly alkaline environments including in the rectum. but oxycodone usually I'm plugging 20-40mg at a time using 5mL of clean water using an extremely slow administration technique and I only insert the tip (2cm long at most) and then apply enough pressure that nothing leaks. Lubricate the syringe tip, I use medicinal KY Jelly and a little goes a very long way with that stuff.

To ensure the solution is where I want it to be I'm very careful at the rate at which I push off. The target area is the lower rectum, as close to the exit/anus as possible basically but just inside of the muscles around your anus, this is to prevent any leaking.

The lower rectum, where there are the most veins which ALSO bypass your liver!!! / first pass metabolism, unlike the veins further up the rectum, so don't shoot the solution rapidly, you'll easily get a feel for it in no time... Have you ever tried using baking soda to make the solution more alkaline if you pH test your drug solution and find it to be too low? Have you ever tested the pH level of any solution you plan to administer???? you SHOULD!!

 

[Predecessor]

A while ago I purchased something online that was specifically made for plugging. The entire tip was rounded. I bought it off amaZon lol. I can't remember the name :/ anyone know???